Dark and Darker

Dark and Darker

Hans-Landa Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:29pm
Like the idea hate the execution
I hope you guys implement just a PVE only mode where i can go and dungeon crawl with a friend because otherwise im uninterested in the medieval fantasy fortnite mode.
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Indian Curry Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:33pm 
Lol the point is for pvp its like Tarkov except Medival plus this is the play test eventually they will probably add it. For a playtest they are doing fine and this is great execution they have a whole year to touch this game up.
Jam_Bone Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:34pm 
Kind of curious what you like about the idea that isn't PvP related, pretty sure the Warhammer : Vermintide games might be up your alley, or maybe a more difficult MMO, heck go play Diablo II hardcore xD

PvE dungeon crawling with a friend isn't a new concept, but in a PvP looter-shooter environment it is
Last edited by Jam_Bone; Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:35pm
Hans-Landa Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by Jam_Bone:
Kind of curious what you like about the idea that isn't PvP related, pretty sure the Warhammer : Vermintide games might be up your alley, or maybe a more difficult MMO, heck go play Diablo II hardcore xD

PvE dungeon crawling with a friend isn't a new concept, but in a PvP looter-shooter environment it is

If i wanted to play an isometric dungeon crawler i would but i liked that it was a first person dungeon crawler with randomized dungeons and enemies and loot tables, Vermintide does not fill this niche, neither diablo II, nor i want to play an MMO because it's neither a dungeon crawler.
Last edited by Hans-Landa; Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:42pm
HumbleBard Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:44pm 
Check out the game Outward, it's very much like this game but only PVE.
Legendairy2 Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Hans-Landa:
Originally posted by Jam_Bone:
Kind of curious what you like about the idea that isn't PvP related, pretty sure the Warhammer : Vermintide games might be up your alley, or maybe a more difficult MMO, heck go play Diablo II hardcore xD

PvE dungeon crawling with a friend isn't a new concept, but in a PvP looter-shooter environment it is

If i wanted to play an isometric dungeon crawler i would but i liked that it was a first person dungeon crawler with randomized dungeons and enemies and loot tables, Vermintide does not fill this niche, neither diablo II, nor i want to play an MMO because it's neither a dungeon crawler.
Yea none of the games suggested are even remotely close to Dark and Darker lol. I feel you, game would be a lot of friend with some friends in either PvE servers or just a server that only you and your team are exploring
Jam_Bone Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:54pm 
Originally posted by Hans-Landa:
Originally posted by Jam_Bone:
Kind of curious what you like about the idea that isn't PvP related, pretty sure the Warhammer : Vermintide games might be up your alley, or maybe a more difficult MMO, heck go play Diablo II hardcore xD

PvE dungeon crawling with a friend isn't a new concept, but in a PvP looter-shooter environment it is

If i wanted to play an isometric dungeon crawler i would but i liked that it was a first person dungeon crawler with randomized dungeons and enemies and loot tables, Vermintide does not fill this niche, neither diablo II, nor i want to play an MMO because it's neither a dungeon crawler.
The enemies and Dungeon are not randomized. There are MMO dungeon crawlers. Maybe they will release a map that is big and open enough that it is more PvE focused, but you are barking up the wrong tree otherwise.

Also, honestly, after a handful of PvE extracts the game will lose its luster. The players are what makes the game challenging or rewarding.
Hans-Landa Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Jam_Bone:
Originally posted by Hans-Landa:

If i wanted to play an isometric dungeon crawler i would but i liked that it was a first person dungeon crawler with randomized dungeons and enemies and loot tables, Vermintide does not fill this niche, neither diablo II, nor i want to play an MMO because it's neither a dungeon crawler.
The enemies and Dungeon are not randomized. There are MMO dungeon crawlers. Maybe they will release a map that is big and open enough that it is more PvE focused, but you are barking up the wrong tree otherwise.

Also, honestly, after a handful of PvE extracts the game will lose its luster. The players are what makes the game challenging or rewarding.
You're putting yourself in too big of a pedestal if you think players are what make games rewarding or challenging my friend.
Last edited by Hans-Landa; Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:56pm
Jam_Bone Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by Legendairy2:
Originally posted by Hans-Landa:

If i wanted to play an isometric dungeon crawler i would but i liked that it was a first person dungeon crawler with randomized dungeons and enemies and loot tables, Vermintide does not fill this niche, neither diablo II, nor i want to play an MMO because it's neither a dungeon crawler.
Yea none of the games suggested are even remotely close to Dark and Darker lol. I feel you, game would be a lot of friend with some friends in either PvE servers or just a server that only you and your team are exploring
Take diablo 2, give it a better basic combat system, make it first person inside the catacombs from act !, wow dark and darker! My man, you could almost overlay the inventory screens from the two games. Also, huh, a blue ovoid portal that takes you back to safety.. doesn't sound familiar at all.

Also I said "pretty sure" because I have only seen Vermintide played a few times and the combat looks similar and its co-op
Last edited by Jam_Bone; Dec 20, 2022 @ 2:00pm
Jam_Bone Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by Hans-Landa:
You're putting yourself in too big of a pedestal if you think players are what make games rewarding or challenging my friend.
makes this game challenging and rewarding not all games, also your idiom makes no sense
Last edited by Jam_Bone; Dec 20, 2022 @ 2:00pm
Hans-Landa Dec 20, 2022 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by Jam_Bone:
Originally posted by Jam_Bone:
makes this game challenging and rewarding
If you require the community to make your game challenging and rewarding for you then your game has issues.
Hans-Landa Dec 20, 2022 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by Jam_Bone:
Originally posted by Legendairy2:
Yea none of the games suggested are even remotely close to Dark and Darker lol. I feel you, game would be a lot of friend with some friends in either PvE servers or just a server that only you and your team are exploring
Take diablo 2, give it a better basic combat system, make it first person inside the catacombs from act !, wow dark and darker! My man, you could almost overlay the inventory screens fromm the two games. Also, huh, a blue ovoid portal that takes you back to safety.. doesn't sound familiar at all.

Also I said "pretty sure" because I have only seen Vermintide played a few times and the combat looks similar and its co-op
Vermintide has nothing to do with dungeon crawling it's plays like Left 4 Dead, and i know because i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ own both Vermintides.
EdAttack Dec 20, 2022 @ 4:06pm 
Best I can think of, for now, is a VR game like Legendary Tales, if you and your friend(s) have VR. Another game that definitely fits what you're looking for is Barony, but it goes for an older style of graphics which isn't everyone's cup of tea.
Buntkreuz Dec 20, 2022 @ 4:37pm 
Zero Sievert showed what many already knew in advance, the system of a extraction looter isnt bound to PvP and works fine in Solo/PvE only.
Add a few more players for coop and its basically that.
PvP is not essential for it to work at all. But it might not be what they are aiming for.
+1 for PvE Coop Mode

Its ok to ask, but live with the answer if its negative.
Kettlebloke Dec 20, 2022 @ 5:29pm 
Originally posted by Hans-Landa:
I hope you guys implement just a PVE only mode where i can go and dungeon crawl with a friend because otherwise im uninterested in the medieval fantasy fortnite mode.

The game is literally a PvX game, if you want to play a PvE game then this game isn't the game for you.
Dragonia Dec 20, 2022 @ 8:38pm 
Agreed with the OP. This game needs a PVE only mode. Alot of players have no interest in PVP where its just troll and chads. Its not realistic at all, u loose your loot but you dont loose your levels. If u want to be so half assed, might as well split PVE and PVPVE up. Will pay for PVE mode. But if its forced PVP, no way in hell will it get even a cent.
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Date Posted: Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:29pm
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