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Chromatin12 Jun 15, 2024 @ 4:39am
Useless to mention shared stash isn't avaliable to free accounts.
The devs do realize its kinda useless to mention how free accounts don't get shared stash when we cant have multiple characters anyway right? Like if free accounts could make like 2 or 3 characters then it would be a selling point for premium but otherwise its useless to even mention at this point since we can only make 1.

Honestly this whole f2p premium setup they have is pretty busted. Like if you're gonna force this at least make it to where you can just piecemeal the options. Like I'm much more likely to spend like maybe $5+ or so for extra characters or shared stash or trade access rather than spend $30 at once with no other option. Maybe do it where when you buy a character slot you get a certain amount of space for shared stash per character slot available or something. At least do like tiered bundles. Currently saying free to play and premium feel more like an indepth demo with options and then a full game rather than an mtx model.
Last edited by Chromatin12; Jun 15, 2024 @ 4:42am
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Fenrir Jun 15, 2024 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by Chromatin12:
The devs do realize its kinda useless to mention how free accounts don't get shared stash when we cant have multiple characters anyway right? Like if free accounts could make like 2 or 3 characters then it would be a selling point for premium but otherwise its useless to even mention at this point since we can only make 1.

Honestly this whole f2p premium setup they have is pretty busted. Like if you're gonna force this at least make it to where you can just piecemeal the options. Like I'm much more likely to spend like maybe $5+ or so for extra characters or shared stash or trade access rather than spend $30 at once with no other option. At least do like tiered bundles or something. Currently saying free to play and premium feel like a demo with options and a full game rather than an mtx model.
I've read somewhere that they might increase the character count for free players because the feedback to try other classes was bad since you had to delete your one character. So the Notice makes sense if it happens.-
Chromatin12 Jun 15, 2024 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Fenrir:
Originally posted by Chromatin12:
The devs do realize its kinda useless to mention how free accounts don't get shared stash when we cant have multiple characters anyway right? Like if free accounts could make like 2 or 3 characters then it would be a selling point for premium but otherwise its useless to even mention at this point since we can only make 1.

Honestly this whole f2p premium setup they have is pretty busted. Like if you're gonna force this at least make it to where you can just piecemeal the options. Like I'm much more likely to spend like maybe $5+ or so for extra characters or shared stash or trade access rather than spend $30 at once with no other option. At least do like tiered bundles or something. Currently saying free to play and premium feel like a demo with options and a full game rather than an mtx model.
I've read somewhere that they might increase the character count for free players because the feedback to try other classes was bad since you had to delete your one character. So the Notice makes sense if it happens.-

I would hope so. At least like 2 or 3 or something. 1 character is kinda ass. Or atleast give us the ability to change class without having to delete inventory or something.
Aldain Jun 15, 2024 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by Chromatin12:
Originally posted by Fenrir:
I've read somewhere that they might increase the character count for free players because the feedback to try other classes was bad since you had to delete your one character. So the Notice makes sense if it happens.-

I would hope so. At least like 2 or 3 or something. 1 character is kinda ass. Or atleast give us the ability to change class without having to delete inventory or something.
I'd be happy with 2 personally, one slot for a main and one that I can delete if I feel like playing something else.

I'd even be fine farming Gold to unlock the slot if need be, if it were a 5k Gold farm to unlock that one extra slot I'd do it with a song in my heart.
Pagan Jun 15, 2024 @ 10:33am 
The reason for mentioning this is because, some people would think that if they put items in shared stash and created a new character they would get it. the logic is sound, hence the mention.

Alot of backlash for the game going free to play.but if they hadnt done that, the market would be flooded with free cd keys. they couldnt get people to link thier accounts, so to fix that they made it free to play, so they didnt have to distribute 500,000 keys, which would of been exploited making the game valueless.
Chromatin12 Jun 19, 2024 @ 12:17pm 
Originally posted by Pagan:
The reason for mentioning this is because, some people would think that if they put items in shared stash and created a new character they would get it. the logic is sound, hence the mention.

Alot of backlash for the game going free to play.but if they hadnt done that, the market would be flooded with free cd keys. they couldnt get people to link thier accounts, so to fix that they made it free to play, so they didnt have to distribute 500,000 keys, which would of been exploited making the game valueless.

Except thats not how that works because "shared stash" is its own tab that you only get when you buy premium. Its not the stash in general. Also again it makes no sense to mention how free doesn't get a "shared stash" since you can only have 1 character anyway and said stash is tied to the character. Its also seemingly pretty stupid to treat that as a premium paywalled feature. More like they're just grasping for straws to keep a reason to have it premium.

Also again that doesn't really address what I said about the ftp model they have. Like Im not complaining its free to play Im saying the way its set up is whats causing the backlash and rightfully so premium is supposed to feel like a premium not "This version gets less than half of the game and this version gets all of it" thats called a demo not free to play.
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NPC_LUKE Jun 19, 2024 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by Chromatin12:
Originally posted by Pagan:
The reason for mentioning this is because, some people would think that if they put items in shared stash and created a new character they would get it. the logic is sound, hence the mention.

Alot of backlash for the game going free to play.but if they hadnt done that, the market would be flooded with free cd keys. they couldnt get people to link thier accounts, so to fix that they made it free to play, so they didnt have to distribute 500,000 keys, which would of been exploited making the game valueless.

Except thats not how that works because "shared stash" is its own tab that you only get when you buy premium. Its not the stash in general. Also again it makes no sense to mention how free doesn't get a "shared stash" since you can only have 1 character anyway and said stash is tied to the character. Its also seemingly pretty stupid to treat that as a premium paywalled feature. More like they're just grasping for straws to keep a reason to have it premium.

Also again that doesn't really address what I said about the ftp model they have. Like Im not complaining its free to play Im saying the way its set up is whats causing the backlash and rightfully so premium is supposed to feel like a premium not "This version gets less than half of the game and this version gets all of it" thats called a demo not free to play.
My thoughts exactly. Just too lazy to articulate.
I think this game is great, and anyone who wants to play HR should totally buy the full experience. But you just can't market a shared stash as a plus, when there isn't even anything to share something with, if you don't decide to upgrade.
Herbspiceguy Jun 19, 2024 @ 1:00pm 
It's a full stash of inventory space, regardless of sharing it. Quite valuable for this type of game.
Sartana Jun 19, 2024 @ 3:07pm 
Originally posted by Chromatin12:

Except thats not how that works because "shared stash" is its own tab that you only get when you buy premium.

It's not just a shared stash because it's a separate tab which means you get double the inventory space. You get the one tab that the f2p get and you get a 2nd tab which doubles your inventory for every character and happens also to be a shared stash for all your characters. So buying the game gets you double inventory and a shared stash. I think they are just communicating it wrong by only mentioning the shared stash and not the double inventory space.
NPC_LUKE Jun 19, 2024 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Sartana:
Originally posted by Chromatin12:

Except thats not how that works because "shared stash" is its own tab that you only get when you buy premium.

It's not just a shared stash because it's a separate tab which means you get double the inventory space. You get the one tab that the f2p get and you get a 2nd tab which doubles your inventory for every character and happens also to be a shared stash for all your characters. So buying the game gets you double inventory and a shared stash. I think they are just communicating it wrong by only mentioning the shared stash and not the double inventory space.
Well~ You can just buy stash tabs with gold. Again, requiring the need for a shared stash for multiple characters. That only 30 dollars gets you.
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