Shields Suck

[Press5000]

Title says it all, theyre just unbelievable garbage

[minizappy]

nah shields are good if you actually know how to use them

[Tristin]

In 1vs1 situation, its pretty trashy tbh. Better to get more hits in. There has to be like counter attack or something to be worth.

[Grimmz]

lantern shield and war hammer are probably the nastiest combo you can have.

hammer gives you armor penetration and it applies when you parry riposte with the shield.

theres no piece of equipment thats completely useless, its just typically the user who doesn't know how to utilize them. a skill issue, respectfully.

[Raesha Moondancer]

When using a shield against a ranger look sightly up,covers your head if you think they are gonna snipe you, i seen some fighters also crouch to ensure i can only hit their limbs. Pretty clever.

[Handbanana]

Shields are fine. You suck. Here learn to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbOCyJ6fQEE

[TokusatsuTV]

Originally posted by copycat:

Title says it all, theyre just unbelievable garbage

that's because blocking here is real where you have to aim the shield at the enemies hit, you cant just get lazy and press the button

[Avuja]

I mean the combat system in general is garbage, why wouldn't blocking be on par? Whole thing is like a dumbed down version of Mordhau or Chivalry you'd see in an early 2000s MMO

[Holy Athena]

500 hours in the game. Yes shields are trash.

That's why ANYONE who has played this game for nay period of time knows it.

Also there are an ABUNDANCE of serious issues with shields:

* Multiple PvE hits go through shields consistently, due to a de sync between the mobs swings, and the hit box. Unless you aim it PERFECTLY it will still go through, despite there being no reason too.

* Being "Too close" to your opponent will allow their swing to phase through your shield and hit you anyway, which is a serious problem.

I even have video evidence of it: https://streamable.com/cpquz1?src=player-page-share

* The link HandBanana posted is true, however, it's only mostly how to avoid these game breaking issues with shields.


Rule of thumb is.. Blocking is almost always pointless, and you're opening yourself up to getting memed anyway, overpowered in the recoil half the time making it pointless to have been blocking anyway, or getting a serious bug like above happening where you get hit regardless..

Too avoid all of that, just dodge, and learn how to dodge, or do whatever else does, grab a caster of some sort, or ranged items, and spam it non stop until you can go in to finish the opponent with 1 or 2 hits.

Which has been the meta for 2 years.

Welcome to Dark and Darker :)

[Corogast]

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

500 hours in the game. Yes shields are trash.

That's why ANYONE who has played this game for nay period of time knows it.

Also there are an ABUNDANCE of serious issues with shields:

* Multiple PvE hits go through shields consistently, due to a de sync between the mobs swings, and the hit box. Unless you aim it PERFECTLY it will still go through, despite there being no reason too.

* Being "Too close" to your opponent will allow their swing to phase through your shield and hit you anyway, which is a serious problem.

I even have video evidence of it: https://streamable.com/cpquz1?src=player-page-share

* The link HandBanana posted is true, however, it's only mostly how to avoid these game breaking issues with shields.


Rule of thumb is.. Blocking is almost always pointless, and you're opening yourself up to getting memed anyway, overpowered in the recoil half the time making it pointless to have been blocking anyway, or getting a serious bug like above happening where you get hit regardless..

Too avoid all of that, just dodge, and learn how to dodge, or do whatever else does, grab a caster of some sort, or ranged items, and spam it non stop until you can go in to finish the opponent with 1 or 2 hits.

Which has been the meta for 2 years.

Welcome to Dark and Darker :)

A lot of the time it's because people don't pull their shield up high enough / early enough. That's why they think shields suck. Plus, in your clip, the axe hit you in the head because you didn't block the blade of the axe. Is it janky? Yes. But, you like many people don't look up enough when shielding.

This isn't some action rpg where they let you block / parry stuff late. You have to be early / careful with your timing. But, I do agree that IM really needs to fix the janky-ness.

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by Corogast:

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

500 hours in the game. Yes shields are trash.

That's why ANYONE who has played this game for nay period of time knows it.

Also there are an ABUNDANCE of serious issues with shields:

* Multiple PvE hits go through shields consistently, due to a de sync between the mobs swings, and the hit box. Unless you aim it PERFECTLY it will still go through, despite there being no reason too.

* Being "Too close" to your opponent will allow their swing to phase through your shield and hit you anyway, which is a serious problem.

I even have video evidence of it: https://streamable.com/cpquz1?src=player-page-share

* The link HandBanana posted is true, however, it's only mostly how to avoid these game breaking issues with shields.


Rule of thumb is.. Blocking is almost always pointless, and you're opening yourself up to getting memed anyway, overpowered in the recoil half the time making it pointless to have been blocking anyway, or getting a serious bug like above happening where you get hit regardless..

Too avoid all of that, just dodge, and learn how to dodge, or do whatever else does, grab a caster of some sort, or ranged items, and spam it non stop until you can go in to finish the opponent with 1 or 2 hits.

Which has been the meta for 2 years.

Welcome to Dark and Darker :)

A lot of the time it's because people don't pull their shield up high enough / early enough. That's why they think shields suck. Plus, in your clip, the axe hit you in the head because you didn't block the blade of the axe. Is it janky? Yes. But, you like many people don't look up enough when shielding.

This isn't some action rpg where they let you block / parry stuff late. You have to be early / careful with your timing. But, I do agree that IM really needs to fix the janky-ness.

Wrong. The shot went through my shield, because the hand phased through and he hit me with the hilt. You can block attacks by hitting their hilt and stopping the attack, which is what I was trying to do. I've done it many times.

The axe head was still way up in the air, when the hit happened.

[Dracoco OwO]

Pavise gamers tend to be tryhards i don't think so.

[Corogast]

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Originally posted by Corogast:

A lot of the time it's because people don't pull their shield up high enough / early enough. That's why they think shields suck. Plus, in your clip, the axe hit you in the head because you didn't block the blade of the axe. Is it janky? Yes. But, you like many people don't look up enough when shielding.

This isn't some action rpg where they let you block / parry stuff late. You have to be early / careful with your timing. But, I do agree that IM really needs to fix the janky-ness.

Wrong. The shot went through my shield, because the hand phased through and he hit me with the hilt. You can block attacks by hitting their hilt and stopping the attack, which is what I was trying to do. I've done it many times.

The axe head was still way up in the air, when the hit happened.

The hilt for the axe is not the dmg sweet spot, so it wouldn't / shouldn't do that much dmg. Come on, you should know that. Plus, what would've helped your side is providing your POV as-well.

(unless IM never fixed the Barb weapons always having a sweet spot all over the weapon.)

[龍宮寺 りゅうぐうじ 堅 けん]

Shelds kinda suck yes.

Although there's specific shield build with corresponding perks which makes it somewhat playable, but taking into consideration absolute trash hitboxes, it's still not really a great strategy.

[Aldain]

They're kind of more a security blanket for me (Lantern Shield notwithstanding), like I feel more confident with a Shield in hand than not, and it does help against most melee mobs in my experience.

...Against players it's basically asking to get your legs swiped.

[Handbanana]

Originally posted by Corogast:

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Wrong. The shot went through my shield, because the hand phased through and he hit me with the hilt. You can block attacks by hitting their hilt and stopping the attack, which is what I was trying to do. I've done it many times.

The axe head was still way up in the air, when the hit happened.

The hilt for the axe is not the dmg sweet spot, so it wouldn't / shouldn't do that much dmg. Come on, you should know that. Plus, what would've helped your side is providing your POV as-well.

(unless IM never fixed the Barb weapons always having a sweet spot all over the weapon.)

He has been trying to convince himself of that lie for a while. He even made an entire thread where literally everyone told him he was wrong and he clearly got hit in the head because he didn't aim up at all. The funny part is he posted a video that disproves his own claims and he still refuses to admit he is wrong and keeps using his appeal to authority of time spent to try and prove he is right when he is objectively not.