Druid is broke af

[DucksPullTrucks]

The druid needs a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nerf i could teach a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ toddler to use that class

[Handbanana]

What specifically needs a nerf? Druids are good in support but they are actually pretty far down the list of balance right now.

[Hex: Bleat]

Theyre actually very weak rn. Their strength and damage is pretty low, and their animal forms leave them open to easy headshots

[DucksPullTrucks]

They transform into animals way too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fast its ridiculous. They need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cooldown longer than my micro penis.

[Handbanana]

Originally posted by xxSNAFUxx:

They transform into animals way too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fast its ridiculous. They need a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cooldown longer than my micro penis.

Their forms are weaker than the weakest gear set in the game. Is a rat running away from you? Just hit him once he has 5hp.

[Cruddy]

You should absolutely not be able to disengage at will they way they can, they can literally ignore closed doors, run away at the drop of a hat and play skirmisher for an entire match. They can drop a Treant to distract or delay enemies, they can drop cover to block passgeways, and can give permanent passive regen ensuring their team can survive extended encounters and have a flat out groupheal spell on top of it.

If they removed the immediate shapeshift perk it would be a step in the right direction but as is they have so much more utility than any other class it's insane, they have an answer to most situations.

People defending the druid are either fighting REALLY bad ones, or are trying to play a role outside the Druids intended area.

[Handbanana]

Originally posted by Cruddy horse:

You should absolutely not be able to disengage at will they way they can, they can literally ignore closed doors, run away at the drop of a hat and play skirmisher for an entire match. They can drop a Treant to distract or delay enemies, they can drop cover to block passgeways, and can give permanent passive regen ensuring their team can survive extended encounters and have a flat out groupheal spell on top of it.

If they removed the immediate shapeshift perk it would be a step in the right direction but as is they have so much more utility than any other class it's insane, they have an answer to most situations.

People defending the druid are either fighting REALLY bad ones, or are trying to play a role outside the Druids intended area.

You are just grossly exaggerating their impact. Like for example healing for 1 health every 3 seconds isn't going to determine a fight lol.

When they shift they lose most of their health and become 1 shot. its a risk vs reward scenario you need to do better to recognize and punish.

[Large Kup]

you can just run up to the druid and they cant transform

[hvike18]

Originally posted by Handbanana:

Originally posted by Cruddy horse:

You should absolutely not be able to disengage at will they way they can, they can literally ignore closed doors, run away at the drop of a hat and play skirmisher for an entire match. They can drop a Treant to distract or delay enemies, they can drop cover to block passgeways, and can give permanent passive regen ensuring their team can survive extended encounters and have a flat out groupheal spell on top of it.

If they removed the immediate shapeshift perk it would be a step in the right direction but as is they have so much more utility than any other class it's insane, they have an answer to most situations.

People defending the druid are either fighting REALLY bad ones, or are trying to play a role outside the Druids intended area.

You are just grossly exaggerating their impact. Like for example healing for 1 health every 3 seconds isn't going to determine a fight lol.

When they shift they lose most of their health and become 1 shot. its a risk vs reward scenario you need to do better to recognize and punish.

Have you actually looked at druids forms? I refuse to believe you have, cherry picking that rat has -95% max hp doesn't fix change that it has the smallest hitbox on one of the fastest most mobile class abilities in the game. The nerfs they did to druid were very fitting, panther had really fast attack speed with almost 20 damage a swing on a way lower hitbox that can circle strafe extremely well. Bear form has a large PDR and max hp buff as well as knockback on basic attack. Treant is a 4th teammate. Enough said. Tons of healing available in the kit. Druid is in a decent spot right now, could probably use a few more tweaks, but overall not bad.

[Handbanana]

Originally posted by hvike18:

Originally posted by Handbanana:

You are just grossly exaggerating their impact. Like for example healing for 1 health every 3 seconds isn't going to determine a fight lol.

When they shift they lose most of their health and become 1 shot. its a risk vs reward scenario you need to do better to recognize and punish.

Have you actually looked at druids forms? I refuse to believe you have, cherry picking that rat has -95% max hp doesn't fix change that it has the smallest hitbox on one of the fastest most mobile class abilities in the game. The nerfs they did to druid were very fitting, panther had really fast attack speed with almost 20 damage a swing on a way lower hitbox that can circle strafe extremely well. Bear form has a large PDR and max hp buff as well as knockback on basic attack. Treant is a 4th teammate. Enough said. Tons of healing available in the kit. Druid is in a decent spot right now, could probably use a few more tweaks, but overall not bad.

You talk about others not looking at the class then go on to say the most incorrect things popssible lol.

Yes rat has a small hitbox but it also dies to any single hit from any spell. Its perfectly balanced trade off.

The panthers hit box is massive. You can't circle strafe anyone with it as your entire body stays in front of them the entire time. The stats are also lowered to the point they will lose literally any trade vs literally any class. They also lose a significant portion of their health. Their hits were doing less damage than a rogues starting dagger even before the nerfs and after its literally useless to use at all. The only time people use it is just to use the leap and then immediately get out of the useless form. Something you probably don't know or understand is how any hit to limbs is reduced by 50% which includes both legs and arms and that will be 100% of all your hits. Your damage can literally never scale as a panther as it will always be reduced at the end calculation.

The bear has barely more PDR than you do as a human. The 50% increase is to the existing armro you have as a cloth wearing which is essentially nothing. Your PDR is equal to pretty much a rogue or ranger. The ability that gives you more PDR for 6 seconds literally has a 3 second animation that prevents you from attacking. You get a large health pool but you move very slowly and do no damage. Again bear loses to pretty much every single class in fights. They are giant targets and punching bags. Same as above its hitbox is so low to the ground that you will never get headshots and most hits will be limb shots. Its only attack that can possibly hit the head takes 2 seconds to wind up and is extremely easy to dodge. The bear itself is an easy target for headshots and you have no tech to prevent that from happening. Bears die extremely fast even with large health pools.

Chicken is literally only used for its jump. its another joke gimmick skill. Also another form besides rat that you will die in a single hit.

Druids primary and really only real use right now is a support healer using treant and roots to help zone. Never said they are bad but they aren't in the top 3 most powerful classes and probably not even in the top 5 once you start looking at geared and how scaling works as none of their spells actually scale at all right now outside of natures touch. Once you start scaling up with gear players can literally 1 shot the treant making it useless.

[hvike18]

not gonna quote it bc wall o text.
while druid may deal less single hit damage pre nerf it was doing more dps than base rogue, and having a smaller hit box, with roughly the same gear access, damage scaling off of agility stat. could be skill issue or git gud, but panther has really good circle strafe and if you have other people in the fight it can make it difficult to keep track of them. panther alone was playing as a better rogue while having access to self and team heals among other utility. i agree it is great support, but it is also a decent backline. agreed on geared combat, they are actually useless besides support.

[DucksPullTrucks]

I dont care what noone says theyre broke af. every engagement is them running away 5 times faster than anyone in the game even when they are dead to rights.

[Grimmz]

yeah thats probably the most annoying part of the druid, their ability to get out of sticky situation basically for free. i think 'get out of jail free' cards are lame.

[Major Lee Ree]

That's wild, I kill so many Druids. When they turn into a rat just wait till they get cocky and run at you then just predict and swing your weapon

[Raesha Moondancer]

Yeah i played with two druids, the only way those two guys were dying is their own mistakes. Any fight, they can just run through a door's window or whatever, they were platforming through everything and by the time the enemy even had its braincells turning they were 2-3 rooms away in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ narnia.

They have the treant wich can absolutely doom you if they get you stuck with it on a wall, they can become tanky/fast on the drop of a hat, they can heal, give themselves armor-etc

They are by far the hardest class to kill if they are skilled, and can be outright unfair how easily they can escape fights, heal up, get back to poke your ass.

[Soren]

Originally posted by xxSNAFUxx:

I dont care what noone says theyre broke af. every engagement is them running away 5 times faster than anyone in the game even when they are dead to rights.

Yeah, that's what makes them so annoying. You will always be outspeed by them. They don't need interaction speed during chases or escapes because the mouse can literally fit through the door window holes too. God forbid you're playing a ranger, you ain't ever hitting them with a bow in mouse form while they're moving around. Maybe you can try pre-spamming the door window if they're chasing you, but that's just dumb luck if that works.