New class is unnecessary and annoying.

[Danny]

Why?

Who's idea was it to make the Avatar a playable class in a game that has always been notoriously unforgiving to melee classes?

"Boss hear me out,what if we make yet another caster but make this one faster,give them dual casting,OH and make it so their spells slow,freeze or push the enemy away! It's great,right? What do you mean I'm fired?!"

You just decided a man out there should be able to slow you down while chunking your health with a hit scan ability that you can't dodge or walk out or run away from AND you also gave the man the ability to cast a fireball with his other hand??!

Next update make a class where it's just a guy and he has a .44 magnum snubnosed revolver,♥♥♥♥ it you might as well at this point.

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im of the opinion all spells should be universal to any caster with a cooldown like the sorc has but if its a non classes spells it should be double the spell memory cost. its not like they dont know how to cast spells what makes a fireball different from the sorcs fire pillar in the magical world study wise. it also would be pretty neat if they had different elements in their own categories with its own set of positives and negatives. aswell as the merging of spells like sorc can do

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but I dont play casters anymore so w/e lol

[Double N'wah]

Input noted, next patch will include a gunslinger class.

Just kidding but we will give shotguns to both Fighters and Barbarians.

[Fran]

Skill issue, learn proper spacing, and use the ranged weapons that your class has, most classes have access to at least a crossbow.

[White Rabbit]

Originally posted by Nolife Tryhard:

Input noted, next patch will include a gunslinger class.

Just kidding but we will give shotguns to both Fighters and Barbarians.

I would absolutely love flintlocks and muskets as a class, you see the problem with them is that if you miss, it takes a long time to reload. Early muskets were also very inaccurate, not to mention pole guns. Having to lead your target as the firing mechanism takes a few seconds as well.

[Double N'wah]

Originally posted by White Rabbit:

Originally posted by Nolife Tryhard:

Input noted, next patch will include a gunslinger class.

Just kidding but we will give shotguns to both Fighters and Barbarians.

I would absolutely love flintlocks and muskets as a class, you see the problem with them is that if you miss, it takes a long time to reload. Early muskets were also very inaccurate, not to mention pole guns. Having to lead your target as the firing mechanism takes a few seconds as well.

Shoot gun, grab different gun, shoot gun, grab third gun. Same as bows are used now. Reload all 3 later on.

[Scidem]

How about AK-47 perk for fighters then?

[THEUZIN Fé em Deus é os Z1KA]

Lmao, after reading this I’m not giving this game another try, range and ranger

[URINOS]

sorcerer is just giga broken. His eletric spell tha coneccts at you drains more than half of your life if he is geared and retire % of movement speed, he can cast his air spell to throw you away and youre basically dead. Bard cant get on him without dying. The only way to arrive at him is with a pavise otherwise you just accept his broken spells and cry. Most broken class EVER in dark and darker.

[Kangaroo Salesman]

The 'Sorcerer' is not even a sorcerer it's an elementalist. But it is a strong class currently if played right also very annoying.

[Rikuto01]

Originally posted by Danny:

Why?

Who's idea was it to make the Avatar a playable class in a game that has always been notoriously unforgiving to melee classes?

"Boss hear me out,what if we make yet another caster but make this one faster,

Stopped reading there. Sorcerer has factually the worst move speed in the entire game. Yes, that includes cleric.

[Kangaroo Salesman]

Originally posted by Rikuto01:

Originally posted by Danny:

Why?

Who's idea was it to make the Avatar a playable class in a game that has always been notoriously unforgiving to melee classes?

"Boss hear me out,what if we make yet another caster but make this one faster,

Stopped reading there. Sorcerer has factually the worst move speed in the entire game. Yes, that includes cleric.

Don't know where you're getting that as Sorc is the 2nd most mobile character behind druid.

[Cirno]

Originally posted by Nolife Tryhard:

Shoot gun, grab different gun, shoot gun, grab third gun. Same as bows are used now. Reload all 3 later on.

Except you are wrong, that's not how bows are used now. If you unequip a bow, it gets automatically unloaded, so you have to load it again once you equip it back.

[Double N'wah]

Originally posted by Cirno:

Originally posted by Nolife Tryhard:

Shoot gun, grab different gun, shoot gun, grab third gun. Same as bows are used now. Reload all 3 later on.

Except you are wrong, that's not how bows are used now. If you unequip a bow, it gets automatically unloaded, so you have to load it again once you equip it back.

Crossbows remain loaded unless they changed it. The last time I played rogue was 3x hand crossbow mosquito.

[Double N'wah]

Originally posted by Rikuto01:

Originally posted by Danny:

Why?

Who's idea was it to make the Avatar a playable class in a game that has always been notoriously unforgiving to melee classes?

"Boss hear me out,what if we make yet another caster but make this one faster,

Stopped reading there. Sorcerer has factually the worst move speed in the entire game. Yes, that includes cleric.

Originally posted by Kangaroo Salesman:

Originally posted by Rikuto01:

Stopped reading there. Sorcerer has factually the worst move speed in the entire game. Yes, that includes cleric.

Don't know where you're getting that as Sorc is the 2nd most mobile character behind druid.

Sorc has the ability to use no weapon reducing movement speed loss, they dont use a shield (but then again neither do clerics anymore) and they dont use plate armor, but then again Clerics drop their chest and legs etc too. Sorc has the electric teleport, giving it increased mobility. Also nearly ever spell slows enemies, and then slows further with another type of magic. Lightning, frost. 40% debuff. Not counting the knockbacks. The *multiple* knockbacks, with infinite charges. Im playing Sorc myself. Its already insanely OP. The problem with the flamefrost bolt or whatever wasnt the size of its impact box its the fact you cast at people in front of you and it goes over their heads. Every single time, cant hit Goblins with the combined attack. The spell is originating somewhere too high, and not actually going where its aimed its taking an arc over people in front of you.

Clerics have a spell called bind that slows them while casting, it takes from memory 1 second to cast, binds for 0.75 seconds - less than the cast time, and it has few charges. By the time the Cleric is done casting it, hits an enemy with it, and they are bound 0.75 seconds the Cleric is still further behind and has increased his gap due to spellcastings penalty on movement speed. And being the slowest class to begin with.

And of course thats ignoring Clerics who are playing the meta dont bring spells, they go lantern and ales and play like a Barbarian. Ale is your shout, drink the ale press W swing. Thats Cleric gameplay. They just gutted healer Cleric, Clerics dont even heal. Nobody should notice if they are playing Cleric correctly to begin with. There *IS* no healer class. There are damage dealers who may heal.

Druids should at least be given a strong spammable heal with upfront heals or actual heal over time not reliant on doing damage. Someone needs to be a real healer if Clerics arent allowed to be.