Dark and Darker

Dark and Darker

Nemesis Aug 13, 2023 @ 12:30pm
Free To Play
Can we download the launcher from the website www.darkanddarker.com and play for free or do we need to buy? I find it kind of weird that they are asking for money without having a steam release.
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Nemesis Aug 13, 2023 @ 12:40pm 
Ok it appears the game is NOT playable at ALL without buying it and theres a cash SHOP ontop WTF? Is this a hostile takeover release by nexon?
Nemesis Aug 13, 2023 @ 12:43pm 
This whole thing smells like a scam has ironmace even acknowledged this release officially? Maybe some doode just snatched the domain and created this fake launcher to rake in money it doesnt seem like anything we have seen from ironmace until now.
Nemesis Aug 13, 2023 @ 12:55pm 
The right thing to do would have been to give free to play access with restrictions and maybe cash shop with cosmetics only. We dont know if the game will be around for long and we dont know what state the game is in. Its really quite an insult to just charge 35 bucks straight up without letting the user to test the game i was always for this game since the playtests but this release is really quite insulting.
Mr B. Aug 13, 2023 @ 2:36pm 
Base game is 35, the silly edition is 50.

There are also various things locked behind a shop, which includes 2 classes. While these can be locked ingame, realistically if you work/study, it will take you months to get a single one.

They have said they are not sure they will be able to integrate it with steam properly (should it ever get on), so it might not be compatible with the 2 versions that are around.

It's still in early access, and has multiple bugs.

Oh, and the launcher you download might delete more than it's own files. I don;t think they have sorted it yet.
Taaccoo Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:02pm 
Originally posted by Nemesis:
The right thing to do would have been to give free to play access with restrictions and maybe cash shop with cosmetics only. We dont know if the game will be around for long and we dont know what state the game is in. Its really quite an insult to just charge 35 bucks straight up without letting the user to test the game i was always for this game since the playtests but this release is really quite insulting.
How is it insulting?
Nemesis Aug 14, 2023 @ 6:15pm 
Originally posted by Taaccoo:
Originally posted by Nemesis:
The right thing to do would have been to give free to play access with restrictions and maybe cash shop with cosmetics only. We dont know if the game will be around for long and we dont know what state the game is in. Its really quite an insult to just charge 35 bucks straight up without letting the user to test the game i was always for this game since the playtests but this release is really quite insulting.
How is it insulting?
They sell you a alpha/beta test for full price and also have a cash shop you have to be a braindead sheep to not find this insulting.
Jaggervice Aug 15, 2023 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Nemesis:
They sell you a alpha/beta test for full price and also have a cash shop you have to be a braindead sheep to not find this insulting.

They talked about the early access and the rough cost it would be for quite a while, this is no surprise. They were transparent about it.

Originally posted by Nemesis:
The right thing to do would have been to give free to play access with restrictions and maybe cash shop with cosmetics only. We dont know if the game will be around for long and we dont know what state the game is in. Its really quite an insult to just charge 35 bucks straight up without letting the user to test the game i was always for this game since the playtests but this release is really quite insulting.

Given that the game was hugely popular while on Steam and kept growing, it's safe to say it will be around for a while. You can always just watch one of the thousand people streaming it to get an idea of the state of the game.

They let people test the game 5 times without having to pay. You literally state in your last sentence that you knew of the playtests.

Originally posted by Nemesis:
This whole thing smells like a scam has ironmace even acknowledged this release officially? Maybe some doode just snatched the domain and created this fake launcher to rake in money it doesnt seem like anything we have seen from ironmace until now.

? You can buy the game directly from their website. Also confirmed the developer's statements in their discord. The very fact that you know the game is out there and people are playing it suggests this is just a troll comment, as it's very unlikely you don't know that Ironmace actually released the game and tons of people are playing it.

Originally posted by Mr B.:
Base game is 35, the silly edition is 50.

There are also various things locked behind a shop, which includes 2 classes. While these can be locked ingame, realistically if you work/study, it will take you months to get a single one.

They have said they are not sure they will be able to integrate it with steam properly (should it ever get on), so it might not be compatible with the 2 versions that are around.

It's still in early access, and has multiple bugs.

Oh, and the launcher you download might delete more than it's own files. I don;t think they have sorted it yet.

Silly edition exists for a great many games that release these days. Pretty much just extra support for the company. Or extra bonuses for the already large and wealthy companies.

Just buying the game literally starts you off with enough to purchase one of the classes right away. Months is an exaggeration, as I've nearly earned 4 shards already, yet I have a job and do other things as well. Each season will reset the triumph level, so it is not ever-increasing increments to earn shards.

There are many games out there that charge fees to unlock extra features and whatnot. Path of Exile is a well-received game but has a cash shop to unlock extras. Not just skins either. Things that are actually extremely helpful or important, like stashes. Not all games let you earn cash shop items in-game, yet Ironmace has elected to make that possible. The whole point of it taking time is to incentivize playing or making a purchase if you don't want to wait.
Last edited by Jaggervice; Aug 15, 2023 @ 7:27am
CedricO Aug 15, 2023 @ 8:29am 
i have no problems with the asking price(s). But i do have issues with the classes locked in the shop. Sure i will be able to unlock them in time but .... i fail to see the point in locking them behind any sort of currency...
Nemesis Aug 15, 2023 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by CedricO:
i have no problems with the asking price(s). But i do have issues with the classes locked in the shop. Sure i will be able to unlock them in time but .... i fail to see the point in locking them behind any sort of currency...
They obviously got greedy. They played the "we are poor little developer who care about customers" card to deceive everyone and support them in the lawsuit when in reality they are really big corp with the same intentions of scamming everyone of their money.
Mr B. Aug 15, 2023 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by Veskelle:

Originally posted by Mr B.:
Base game is 35, the silly edition is 50.

There are also various things locked behind a shop, which includes 2 classes. While these can be locked ingame, realistically if you work/study, it will take you months to get a single one.

They have said they are not sure they will be able to integrate it with steam properly (should it ever get on), so it might not be compatible with the 2 versions that are around.

It's still in early access, and has multiple bugs.

Oh, and the launcher you download might delete more than it's own files. I don;t think they have sorted it yet.

Silly edition exists for a great many games that release these days. Pretty much just extra support for the company. Or extra bonuses for the already large and wealthy companies.

Just buying the game literally starts you off with enough to purchase one of the classes right away. Months is an exaggeration, as I've nearly earned 4 shards already, yet I have a job and do other things as well. Each season will reset the triumph level, so it is not ever-increasing increments to earn shards.

There are many games out there that charge fees to unlock extra features and whatnot. Path of Exile is a well-received game but has a cash shop to unlock extras. Not just skins either. Things that are actually extremely helpful or important, like stashes. Not all games let you earn cash shop items in-game, yet Ironmace has elected to make that possible. The whole point of it taking time is to incentivize playing or making a purchase if you don't want to wait.

Oh that old argument, they do it so it's automatically ok. And the grind is real, someone even worked it out. It's a *lot* of grind.

It goes back to that circular argument that so many on here are hippocrites of.

It's a silly overpriced thing.

Don't buy it then.

And in a separate argument from the same people....

Nexon has silly things to buy for too much.

Well don't buy them then.

But Nexon are praying on kids and vulnerable people who can't control money/have gambling type problems. They can't control it so these things shouldn't be for sale!

This whole thing is double standards tbh.
Taaccoo Aug 17, 2023 @ 6:56pm 
Originally posted by Nemesis:
Originally posted by Taaccoo:
How is it insulting?
They sell you a alpha/beta test for full price and also have a cash shop you have to be a braindead sheep to not find this insulting.
It's early access, used to collect feedback, a playerbase, and funds. They've just went back on paying for classes and servers and legal fees aren't cheap, so I can't really blame them for having a few cosmetics either. $35 for early access is entirely reasonable.
Snakeeyes646 Aug 20, 2023 @ 2:02pm 
OP is pretty dumb.
Nemesis Aug 20, 2023 @ 3:29pm 
Originally posted by DrumNBassDanTTV:
OP is pretty dumb.
Thanks and you are a weeb.
Op can't take the L on a dumb post.... delusional
JavelinBayraktar Jun 4, 2024 @ 10:25pm 
now it IS f2p yooo
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