im outta the loop, is this game not on steam anymore?

[Private Pyle]

sorry i havent been following but see everyone playing again. i played the play tests.

[Herbspiceguy]

The game won't return on Steam, until the DMCA claim by Nexon is cleared.
Until then you can buy and download EA release from the official website.

[I Am Klaus]

Originally posted by Herbspiceguy:

The game won't return on Steam, until the DMCA claim by Nexon is cleared.
Until then you can buy and download EA release from the official website.

Provide a link please? Because I'm on the official question and I don't see a prompt to buy the game anywhere. All there is, is a Presskit download.

[(Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes]

Originally posted by Your moms car:

Originally posted by Herbspiceguy:

The game won't return on Steam, until the DMCA claim by Nexon is cleared.
Until then you can buy and download EA release from the official website.

Provide a link please? Because I'm on the official question and I don't see a prompt to buy the game anywhere. All there is, is a Presskit download.

https://www.darkanddarker.com/

or if you want the purchase page

https://darkanddarker.com/shop

[Mr B.]

Originally posted by Garlboh:

Out of curiousity, if I buy from the website, will I get a Steam key when it inevitably comes here?

Highly unlikely.

[Private Pyle]

Originally posted by Herbspiceguy:

The game won't return on Steam, until the DMCA claim by Nexon is cleared.
Until then you can buy and download EA release from the official website.

ty 4 info

[I Am Klaus]

Okay, I'll bookmark the page for the future, but until they offer a payment method more trustworthy than Xsolla (Paypal, Credit/Debit Card, etc), I don't think I'm willing to take the risk. I remember now that I've done Xsolla once before, got double charged and my bank red flagged it. Don't feel comfortable using it again.

[Nemesis]

They sell a alpha/beta test now for full price with cash shop sadly they became greedy

[Tyo_ma]

Originally posted by Your moms car:

Okay, I'll bookmark the page for the future, but until they offer a payment method more trustworthy than Xsolla (Paypal, Credit/Debit Card, etc), I don't think I'm willing to take the risk. I remember now that I've done Xsolla once before, got double charged and my bank red flagged it. Don't feel comfortable using it again.

no disrespect, but most online services you know are handled by xsolla already, seems pretty reliable to me

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Tyo_ma:

Originally posted by Your moms car:

Okay, I'll bookmark the page for the future, but until they offer a payment method more trustworthy than Xsolla (Paypal, Credit/Debit Card, etc), I don't think I'm willing to take the risk. I remember now that I've done Xsolla once before, got double charged and my bank red flagged it. Don't feel comfortable using it again.

no disrespect, but most online services you know are handled by xsolla already, seems pretty reliable to me

For example? I have never heard of xsolla and i play many online games.

[Herbspiceguy]

The clients of the company include Twitch, Smite, Epic/Fortnite, Phoenix Labs, Roblox, Warner Bros, Nexters, WEMADE, Gaijin, NetEase Games.

Taken from Wikipedia

[Tyo_ma]

Originally posted by Nemesis:

Originally posted by Tyo_ma:

no disrespect, but most online services you know are handled by xsolla already, seems pretty reliable to me

For example? I have never heard of xsolla and i play many online games.

any google users here? Im impressed, i have to name basic info on the internet in 2023. Also steam used to have xsolla as a payment provider

[whoizz]

Originally posted by Garlboh:

Out of curiousity, if I buy from the website, will I get a Steam key when it inevitably comes here?

I wouldn't say 100% - and that's because they could still run their platform. Let me explain:

- we had play-tests over Steam before Nexon filed a lawsuit with the sole purpose to remove Dark & Darker from Steam platform;
- Ironmace as a developer was using Steam services across to minimize their own technical debt, stuff like download & distribution, account creation & user information, any kind of data save, etc.
- these services Steam provides helps a lot not just the small companies, even large business uses these services as they all make sense;

After the lawsuit was filed, Dark & Darker was removed from Steam and we all know Nexon will be unable to win, and they would never be able to win in courts in USA - ie. there was never this possibility in the air, Ironmace was sorta of "forced" to work on their own private distribution method - which I reckon they named Blacksmith, or so was the info Ironmace provided on their Discord.

Does Steam charge business to distribute their games? - Probably.. how much does it cost? - no idea.. add now, how much has Ironmace invested in building their own platform since Nexon forced them to do so?

Question will be, what provides best advantage? - IMO, Ironmace could easily ditch their own platform and integrate via Steam, however, other businesses like Battlestate Games - which have Escape from Tarkov does not use Steam, they did their own launcher to distribute & provide updates and that's it.

Considering Ironmace decides to utilize Steam forward, it would make all sense to provide keys to everyone who owns it already, as they could ditch efforts and reduce their own costs of running these services themselves.