So I tried an ignored bard setup

[Double N'wah]

Chaotic discord to make enemies attack players instead of me, the pacification song to stop players and enemies being able to fight, the open doors song so I can just keep playing music like a laughing idiot and doo doo doo my way through the whole game without hitting anyone. And then the drum song, to establish damage on groups of people so they continue to follow me.

Goal is to do the druid rat thing better. Pied piper a whole swarm of guys who are stuck on me because I did damage, then chaotic discord them into killing not me.

Heres the problem the pacification song requires playing it, and then it continues to play for like 6 seconds after and during that 6 seconds they are pacified. But while youre playing, with extreme low movement speed they beat you down. And when the song ends, they attack you again. So its literally worthless. Clearly a 3s thing.

So I took that off. Now its doors, frenzy and drum dot. The door spell fails to open doors even when playing good music. Has to be perfect, has to be really close to the door, and it takes a long time so you zig zag and then find out the door didnt even open and dead.

The TLDR is it simply does not work, I tried with a lot of tism and its just not possible. The mobs just stop following because pathing, you finally run into a guy and he kills you. Then the mobs detach and go away. I did it probably 15x and 1 guy was mildly annoyed by a harpy he wouldnt have had to fight.


So I did like anyone else, since Bards tools are designed to make them fail. Pacification spell that doesnt pacify. Chaotic discord spell that requires the whole song played BEFORE they start attacking other people. Songs slowing movement speed to like 150 or something.
- I rolled a warlock. Now I just go room to room cursing everyone. Curse curse curse, curse curse curse, hellfire. I see a player, Im cursing him and the skeletons and running away. Wear them all down, nobody can really fight back except rangers. And I notice 80% of people ARE rangers now that druids are nerfed. So you will cause the warlocks a lot of problems, but the new discussion coming down the pipes is nerf ranger.

Warlocks being balanced around infinite spellcasts of a spell that heals them which can be cast on infinite targets (like 3-5 at once in practice because 10 second dot length with the curse ability) - is incredibly OP and makes all other non-healing classes, and all other charge based spellcast classes obsolete. Rangers still win because 8 arrows in 3 seconds on cloth, and because they have no spellcast range deadzone.

As in warlocks true weakness is their spells dont hit anyone beyond like 15 feet away. True facts. You cant curse a guy across a room.

edit: also I did this in several 3s matches solo and actually broke a whole team up just harassment cursing them over and over from a crawling height tunnel they didnt want to move into. 1 guy seemed to have been accidentally TKd, a second I chased down and killed, the third got away. I rate warlock cheese 9/10, I rate bard cheese 3/10.

Second edit: also the squire warlock sword does like 33 damage and it clears mobs insanely fast relative to say a rogue or even cleric. Like 2 less swings on every mob to kill them. I had been looking for a class that can blitz the PvE, ignore the chests and just find players to kill asap. Thats warlock.