Dark and Darker

Dark and Darker

ionkiller Jul 18, 2024 @ 7:50pm
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Dungeonborne
After playing it for a few matches, I have to say...

...What even is the hype around Dungeonborne? It feels like a watered down version of Dark and Darker in almost every way.

Combat. Despite what people say, feels way jankier than DaD. Especially less satisfying when parry/block mechanics boil down to just rightclicking without the 'effort' of DaD's shields and longswords

Classes. To me they all boil down to being a different shade of a melee build. Why is the starter kit for Cryomancer so dogwater and limited?

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Of course I'm operating on a lot of ignorance and just glancing at things from the top down over gameplay videos and the like. But come on, at the very least every class in DaD got some kind of vibe and gameplay loop to them. What is all this MMO-style junk pretending to be a 'smoother' experience than Dark and Darker.

Like sure. I get that people will prefer the simpler class/fighting mechanics and the lot. But who are these people pretending Dungeonborne is like the upgrade to this? At best it's a side-grade, from visuals to actual gameplay.
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Floppa Jul 18, 2024 @ 7:53pm 
because thats exactly what it was made to be
ionkiller Jul 18, 2024 @ 7:55pm 
Tell that to the "Owl's ViAl" guy in the post next door. Or some of the folks in the other forum. It genuinely looks like insanity and a coping mechanism.
Floppa Jul 18, 2024 @ 7:57pm 
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Originally posted by ionkiller:
Tell that to the "Owl's ViAl" guy in the post next door. Or some of the folks in the other forum. It genuinely looks like insanity and a coping mechanism.
they are mad they couldnt handle DAD. DB is just a game for DAD rejects
Blaze Shadowflame Jul 18, 2024 @ 8:06pm 
The only credit I give dungeonborne is that the potion drinking animation is better. Everything else is stiffer and diluted.
Rikuto01 Jul 18, 2024 @ 8:15pm 
When confronted with a persons own incompetence, most will look for a way to avoid blaming themselves. "This game sucks" is easier to say than "I am bad and i deserve to lose because i am bad".

In the case of a difficult game like DaD, this means playing a far worse game like DB which is also much easier. It's a coping method.

But you can only cope for so long until you realize your game has nothing going on, the playerbase is dropping and the servers are shutting down in six months.
Stevejust Jul 18, 2024 @ 8:37pm 
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I was actually a little excited for Dungeonborne. But after playing it, it feels soul-less compared to Dark and Darker. It's something I think you have to experience to really understand.
Rikuto01 Jul 18, 2024 @ 8:43pm 
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Originally posted by Stevejust:
I was actually a little excited for Dungeonborne. But after playing it, it feels soul-less compared to Dark and Darker. It's something I think you have to experience to really understand.

I refer to that feeling as "mobile energy".
Stevejust Jul 18, 2024 @ 8:45pm 
Originally posted by Rikuto01:
Originally posted by Stevejust:
I was actually a little excited for Dungeonborne. But after playing it, it feels soul-less compared to Dark and Darker. It's something I think you have to experience to really understand.

I refer to that feeling as "mobile energy".

Yeah I feel that
Triplenine Jul 18, 2024 @ 9:38pm 
It's a terrible game. The playtest felt like a mobile prototype. Uninstalled it after 10 minutes of playing. Nowhere near ready for Early access it'll die in a few months.
Last edited by Triplenine; Jul 19, 2024 @ 2:43am
Nonaloth Jul 18, 2024 @ 10:00pm 
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honored to be mentioned.


Originally posted by Floppa:
Originally posted by ionkiller:
Tell that to the "Owl's ViAl" guy in the post next door. Or some of the folks in the other forum. It genuinely looks like insanity and a coping mechanism.
they are mad they couldnt handle DAD. DB is just a game for DAD rejects
Just like path of exile is a copy of diablo...just like pubg and fortinite is from the original h1z1...anyway...it happens...you keep playing dad, let other people enjoy the fun.

By just being able to switch characters for free...that is a relief.
Also minimap in game...ooof.
Intuitive quests and easier stuff overall....
But both suffer from the same punitive pvp.
Aldain Jul 18, 2024 @ 10:22pm 
I've watched some gameplay of it and looked up the class list.

It...doesn't seem like something I'd enjoy, feels a bit more interested in spectacle over substance.
Floppa Jul 18, 2024 @ 11:07pm 
Originally posted by Owl's ViAl:
honored to be mentioned.


Originally posted by Floppa:
they are mad they couldnt handle DAD. DB is just a game for DAD rejects
Just like path of exile is a copy of diablo...just like pubg and fortinite is from the original h1z1...anyway...it happens...you keep playing dad, let other people enjoy the fun.

By just being able to switch characters for free...that is a relief.
Also minimap in game...ooof.
Intuitive quests and easier stuff overall....
But both suffer from the same punitive pvp.
did poe purposefully use the same assets and did they just happen to get an idea for a charterer/enemy a few days after diablo did
Last edited by Floppa; Jul 18, 2024 @ 11:32pm
II-KING-II Jul 18, 2024 @ 11:50pm 
Gonna try it tonight, the PVP looks more enjoyable.
Dad is spending your time running against other players who don't want to fight and that is quite a bore.
Nigel Incubator Jones Jul 19, 2024 @ 12:17am 
Dungeonborne is a watered down edition of Dark and Darker. Played it about 10 hours ,did not feel the need to play more.
The pros: Somehow better graphics.And thats it.

The PVE is quite annoying since you have to get a ton of potions (there is no rest mechanic)
The PVP is far easier. The gamma really destroys any element of surprise or gang.
The PVP can be summed up as "Whoever sees the other first is the winner".
I have killed more players as a noob in DB than in DAD because its far easier to kill.

Its more arcade than DaD which is more challenging.

What annoys me most are all the DaD rejects ,who either want the game to be full free to play or just dont like the challenge of a game that needs sometime to learn its mechanics.

So DB just tries to appease to these DaD rejects and offers them the ability to create many classes and a more arcadey pvp.
Katitoff Jul 19, 2024 @ 12:31am 
You're not operating on ignorance at all.

There are like 5 melee weapons in that game.

They have fancy animations, but that's all they have.

On the bright side, speed meta is not a problem there, every character except rogue feels like you're controlling actual Joe Biden.
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