The gear brackets.

[KumaBear]

I just got the breakdown from another player while accidentally playing in 126+ bracket... yall I got literally 1 shotted by a dude running around in full legendary gear while I still had grays.

For those who aren't already aware - 0-25, 26-125, 126+ are the brackets. you could be not even full greens and be in the bracket that puts you up against people with literally thousands of hours playtime and the best gear in the game.

I get whaling, I really do - it's lucrative, keeps the game free for most, etc. I do not understand it to this degree. How is any new player supposed to even touch these players? It doesn't warn you anywhere that if you go over 125 you will be in this no ceiling que, and also, if you want to go into high rolling (the only way to get gear to compete) you have to have a gearscore that puts you in que with these whales.

This sucks ass - the game is good, like, real good. Why do this, so disappointing.

[Frost]

Originally posted by KumaBear:

For those who aren't already aware - 0-25, 26-125, 126+ are the brackets.

Wrong, its: 0-24,25-124 and everything above that is a sh*tshow

[Keny]

Originally posted by Speigas:

Originally posted by KumaBear:

For those who aren't already aware - 0-25, 26-125, 126+ are the brackets.

Wrong, its: 0-24,25-124 and everything above that is a sh*tshow

this is the right numbers

[Katitoff]

Tbh bardish barbarian can OHK everyone but PDR builds, bear druids and other barbs in green gear.

[Roovka]

Exactly why I avoid anything higher than 124. I still struggle in PvP in some matchups and going from a skill issue to a skill AND gear issue just isn't appealing.

[Double N'wah]

Originally posted by KumaBear:

High roller is only for high rollers. Ironmace plz fix.

Try running away and just looting gear. Better yet git gud, and take significantly higher geared peoples gear through skilled play. This might take multiple attempts.

Also be sure to play random 3s because if your gear sucks maybe your team wont be, and it balances things out. You definitely should be playing 3s.

[KumaBear]

Originally posted by Moral Pillar Of The Community:

Originally posted by KumaBear:

High roller is only for high rollers. Ironmace plz fix.

Try running away and just looting gear. Better yet git gud, and take significantly higher geared peoples gear through skilled play. This might take multiple attempts.

Also be sure to play random 3s because if your gear sucks maybe your team wont be, and it balances things out. You definitely should be playing 3s.

Can you read? 1 shotted, single swing of the sword, dead wizard. Fireball dealt 5% of his hp. My entire spell pool, at 145 gear score would not have killed him. He also ran faster and had a bard buffing him.

Exactly how the ♥♥♥♥ do you think any amount of skill would help in that scenario?

[imSubtle]

Originally posted by MalvadoCrow:

Originally posted by Speigas:

Wrong, its: 0-24,25-124 and everything above that is a sh*tshow

this is the right numbers

it should be this but it isnt the case.. i've been leveling a wizard, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful experience. Keep getting rushed by people with 200+ gearscore... WHILE IN BASE KIT. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ matchmaking is a joke

[Katitoff]

Originally posted by imSubtle:

Originally posted by MalvadoCrow:

this is the right numbers

it should be this but it isnt the case.. i've been leveling a wizard, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful experience. Keep getting rushed by people with 200+ gearscore... WHILE IN BASE KIT. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ matchmaking is a joke

Literally not possible, unless you're playing in a team with someone who got more GS than 124.

[imSubtle]

Originally posted by Katitoff:

Originally posted by imSubtle:

it should be this but it isnt the case.. i've been leveling a wizard, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful experience. Keep getting rushed by people with 200+ gearscore... WHILE IN BASE KIT. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ matchmaking is a joke

Literally not possible, unless you're playing in a team with someone who got more GS than 124.

nope solos.. and it has happened multiple times today... or basekit + 1 or 2 greens.. 30-40 gear score getting rushed by 200+. such fun

[KumaBear]

Originally posted by imSubtle:

Originally posted by Katitoff:

Literally not possible, unless you're playing in a team with someone who got more GS than 124.

nope solos.. and it has happened multiple times today... or basekit + 1 or 2 greens.. 30-40 gear score getting rushed by 200+. such fun

That has happened to me as well, I think they must have it coded to just ignore the brackets if it doesn't have enough players.

and I gotta say, I would rather be alone on a map than have a full lobby of people I have exactly 0 chance of killing.

[I'm a Ghost  ]

Please keep in mind even if you join 0-24 lobby, anything anyone picks up, ADDS to their gear score mid game, you may not be up against a 200+ gearscore kit, he could have just looted it, unfortunately.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by I'm a Ghost  :

Please keep in mind even if you join 0-24 lobby, anything anyone picks up, ADDS to their gear score mid game, you may not be up against a 200+ gearscore kit, he could have just looted it, unfortunately.

This. You find a blue weapon right out of the gate and you're already nearly at 100 and considering the loot is RNG based, it's not unreasonable to think some people can come across a handful of blues fairly quickly. You can also manage bringing in some luck gear while staying under 25 and use a luck potion making this even more likely.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by I'm a Ghost  :

Please keep in mind even if you join 0-24 lobby, anything anyone picks up, ADDS to their gear score mid game, you may not be up against a 200+ gearscore kit, he could have just looted it, unfortunately.

Statistically speaking though going from <25 to 200 in short timeframe is a rare occurrence, especially if it's caused not by a large number of blues but just a few purples, and very specific purples at that. If this was towards the end of a full run then it would be reasonable, but there's some cases that just feel incredibly suspicious.

For example one time a few weeks ago I was in <25 and got killed by a Rogue who had 2 purple daggers (Rondel+Stiletto) less than 4 minutes into the match, that's so utterly improbable that I can't help but raise an eyebrow at it.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by I'm a Ghost  :

Please keep in mind even if you join 0-24 lobby, anything anyone picks up, ADDS to their gear score mid game, you may not be up against a 200+ gearscore kit, he could have just looted it, unfortunately.

Statistically speaking though going from <25 to 200 in short timeframe is a rare occurrence, especially if it's caused not by a large number of blues but just a few purples, and very specific purples at that. If this was towards the end of a full run then it would be reasonable, but there's some cases that just feel incredibly suspicious.

For example one time a few weeks ago I was in <25 and got killed by a Rogue who had 2 purple daggers (Rondel+Stiletto) less than 4 minutes into the match, that's so utterly improbable that I can't help but raise an eyebrow at it.

I would still like to see screenshots of this happening, because I keep seeing people make these claims but absolutely nothing concrete to confirm it. Like there's always the possibility that you accidentally queued higher than intended and you didn't realize it.

Is this happening in solos, duos or trios? HR? Specific maps? Which classes has this happened with?

Time of day and region would also be useful. I have yet to experience this in normal Duos at evening - night on US West or East.

[wei270]

Originally posted by Roovka:

Originally posted by I'm a Ghost  :

Please keep in mind even if you join 0-24 lobby, anything anyone picks up, ADDS to their gear score mid game, you may not be up against a 200+ gearscore kit, he could have just looted it, unfortunately.

This. You find a blue weapon right out of the gate and you're already nearly at 100 and considering the loot is RNG based, it's not unreasonable to think some people can come across a handful of blues fairly quickly. You can also manage bringing in some luck gear while staying under 25 and use a luck potion making this even more likely.

this is true especially if the player knows the loot table and that is actually fixed so the location where you can find good loot is actually fixed and good players knows those location, its totally possible for them to just go to the good loot locations get lucky and come out with a mostly blue gear.