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VRgins 9. Juli 2024 um 17:14
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Long sword riposte is broken
Dude just blocked my attack and two shot me before I could even do anything. How is that fair? This games combat is very slow its not hard to parry and thats the only weapon any fighters use because of it
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Grimmz 30. Sep. 2024 um 1:23 
when you hear the ''ting'' thats when you duck or quickly run away. and generally you never hug a longsword user, you stay at max range while poking them. only exception is felling axe, then you can and should hug em.

fighting against longsword is super simple if you know how to control space.. you hit em in their blindspots and drag your swings. if you're a simpleton you can simply wait for them to swing, then you can punish them with a free hit.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xanza:
lol
Brain-dead Longsword user found...
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rikuto01:
You will never convince any longsword users that its an overpowered weapon, even with the riposte. It has a tiny parry hitbox and if you miss, its usually game over.

You're wrong.

EVERY Main Fighter agrees that LongSword is extremely overpowered compared to all other weapons.

Its damage, reach and versatility is unmatched.

The 'Lantern Shield' specifically made for counter attacking after blocking is child's play compared to being 2 tapped by LongSword.

As other users have stated, No LongSword 'should be' able to Parry 'Large' or 'Heavy' weapons.

Anyone defending it with 'just do this, or play this way to beat it' is largely ignoring statistical facts that the weapon out performs everything else melee in game.
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Cakner 30. Sep. 2024 um 15:28 
My friend started using longsword lately, if you cant beat em, join em.

We understand why daggesr are so popular is because that ♥♥♥♥ is hard to parry.

We learned why "movespeed" is the meta because ♥♥♥♥ fighting rondel fighter or longsword fighter just throw arrows and spells at them till they die or run away.

i dunno were im going with this
Basil 4. Okt. 2024 um 6:04 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Grimmz:
when you hear the ''ting'' thats when you duck or quickly run away. and generally you never hug a longsword user, you stay at max range while poking them. only exception is felling axe, then you can and should hug em.

fighting against longsword is super simple if you know how to control space.. you hit em in their blindspots and drag your swings. if you're a simpleton you can simply wait for them to swing, then you can punish them with a free hit.


Mate, you write so, because, let me guess, your playstyle s ranged or rogue-like. Thatswhy you say its simple.
Not that easy to strike in blindspots with any melee, excluding short sword or daggers. Animation action speed is really slow, you can always react on "blindspot hit". Then two strikes - dead.
I killed a fat cleric few days ago having trash blue gear and longsword. First time got hot legendary stuff. I saw his shock after he got this two hits. This guys tried to run, didnt help anyway.
This parry feature shouldn't give such damage power.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lenny is my king:
Dude just blocked my attack and two shot me before I could even do anything. How is that fair? This games combat is very slow its not hard to parry and thats the only weapon any fighters use because of it
maybe create a fighter and try longsword for yourself?
if there is one thing that longsword is not, its the broken part that you are talking about LOL.
first of all longsword has a really small hit-box for parrying and riposte.
second of all not only longsword is not broken its actually not a good weapon in most case scenarios and its not the best weapon for fighter (let me explain).
not only longsword has a really small hit-slow effect, it also has a really bad attack speed and very long recovery, for example falchion has ms ( movement speed ) penalty of 25 while longsword has a ms penalty of 30, the falchion has a hit-slow of 20% for one second and longsowrd has a hit-slow of 17% for one second.
now try to explain to me why a two handed-weapon should have a lesser hit-slow of a one-handed weapon?
you can't, you know why? because its does't make any sense.
longsword were specifically made for medium range combat and just little good for long range combat, even with that being said if you try to trade hits with a bardiche barb
you will still loss.
a bardiche barb has more attack range and more damage as of a fighter with longsword.
a rogue can literally hug a longsword fighter and just stab him to death not because he is rogue but because longsword is useless when they hug you.
you go into some social media or youtube video and see a thumbnail like LONGSWORD IS BROKEN, well its not to be honest, even streamers who play longsword fighter say the only good part about the weapon is the riposte and generally they rather run a arming sword with a heater shield if that didn't have existed.
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Longsword is overpowered they say yet druids, rondel fighters, crystal sword fighters, and other things rule the field more than longsword.
Don't make me laugh. The sword is good; you simply are not yet.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lenny is my king:
Dude just blocked my attack and two shot me before I could even do anything. How is that fair? This games combat is very slow its not hard to parry and thats the only weapon any fighters use because of it

I also believe that the riposte should do no more damage than a secondary attack with a double axe or a bardiche strike. It just needs to be nerfed in the long run because it's way too strong right now. The only question is when Ironmace will take care of it.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Counter Slayer:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lenny is my king:
a bardiche barb has more attack range and more damage as of a fighter with longsword..

Bardiche barb got only one hit pattern and slow af. If longsword fighter cant block bardiche and oneshot barb with ripost, poke him. He is probably dead or afk.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lenny is my king:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Xanza:
lol
yeah its funny when your version of "skill" is pressing right click once as a slow moving axe is coming towards you thats skilled for you. You say lol because you don't know what else to say when I ask how is that fair.

You literally GAVE them the parry, and you're complaining it's broken when all you had to do was not aim at their head.

He read you like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ book
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lenny is my king:
Dude just blocked my attack and two shot me before I could even do anything. How is that fair? This games combat is very slow its not hard to parry and thats the only weapon any fighters use because of it
Tbh LS doesnt even deserve a parry, why is it the only weapon that gets a unique mechanic like that with near insta kill potential? ill tell you why.. devs cant balance the game.

People saying skill issue are also bozos looking for points. its very easy to parry fish on a high def build even if you dont know what youre doing. It basically comes down to is the other person a moron or not. you as the LS user have little to no actual control over how it goes as anyone skilled is just gonna avoid the parry.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lecruidant:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lenny is my king:
yeah its funny when your version of "skill" is pressing right click once as a slow moving axe is coming towards you thats skilled for you. You say lol because you don't know what else to say when I ask how is that fair.

You literally GAVE them the parry, and you're complaining it's broken when all you had to do was not aim at their head.

He read you like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ book
it is a stupid mechanic tho, why is it the only weapon in the game with a parry? thats moronic and you know it
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Space Daddy:
it is a stupid mechanic tho, why is it the only weapon in the game with a parry? thats moronic and you know it

Why?
Would be nice if we could block with weapons, not just select ones.
URINOS 5. Okt. 2024 um 13:44 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lenny is my king:
Dude just blocked my attack and two shot me before I could even do anything. How is that fair? This games combat is very slow its not hard to parry and thats the only weapon any fighters use because of it
if its so easy like that, you need to give a try to longsword! if cry in the community doesnt work, use overpowered thing to your own advantage.
Zuletzt bearbeitet von URINOS; 5. Okt. 2024 um 13:46
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