Cleric definitely needs a nerf, its ridiculous

[Boutus]

Speed is supposed to be the clerics drawback, yet they can speed themselves up and slow you down, it's absurd.

[Mechanique]

Why do you think speed is supposed to be clerics drawback? Cleric needs speed as much as anyone else or it will be a free frag class that nobody plays

[Boutus]

Originally posted by Mechanique:

Why do you think speed is supposed to be clerics drawback? Cleric needs speed as much as anyone else or it will be a free frag class that nobody plays

Dude it literally says as a drawback "slow speed".

The class is ridiculous, PvP follows the same routine, they slow you down, speed themselves up, then kill a barb with 178hp and armor in two headshots that you cannot miss.

It's too much, pick something to excel in.

If you are a cleric player, and do this, know you aren't as good at PvP as you think you are, it's just unbalanced in your favor. They can move faster than even a barb WITHOUT armor, when he is fully armored, it's just absurd.

[Double N'wah]

Originally posted by Boutus:

Originally posted by Mechanique:

Why do you think speed is supposed to be clerics drawback? Cleric needs speed as much as anyone else or it will be a free frag class that nobody plays

Dude it literally says as a drawback "slow speed".

The class is ridiculous, PvP follows the same routine, they slow you down, speed themselves up, then kill a barb with 178hp and armor in two headshots that you cannot miss.

It's too much, pick something to excel in.

If you are a cleric player, and do this, know you aren't as good at PvP as you think you are, it's just unbalanced in your favor. They can move faster than even a barb WITHOUT armor, when he is fully armored, it's just absurd.

Theyre walking around with lanterns and 1h for speed with no shield. Thats your signal clerics are broken and need their armor fixed.

[effusivemind]

Originally posted by Boutus:

The class is ridiculous, PvP follows the same routine, they slow you down, speed themselves up, then kill a barb with 178hp and armor in two headshots that you cannot miss.

this is exactly the problem. it isn't even that cleric can slow players. it's that cleric can slow players AND it does an absurd amount of melee dmg.

when you compare Faithfulness to any similar perk other classes get it clearly provides too much

[Boutus]

Originally posted by effusivemind:

Originally posted by Boutus:

The class is ridiculous, PvP follows the same routine, they slow you down, speed themselves up, then kill a barb with 178hp and armor in two headshots that you cannot miss.

this is exactly the problem. it isn't even that cleric can slow players. it's that cleric can slow players AND it does an absurd amount of melee dmg.

when you compare Faithfulness to any similar perk other classes get it clearly provides too much

Yes, their ability to slow you down has to be nerfed, it slows you by such an absurd amount, the overhead mace strike cannot miss your head, it just can't, it's like hitting a slug.

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[Modragor]

Originally posted by Boutus:

Originally posted by Mechanique:

Why do you think speed is supposed to be clerics drawback? Cleric needs speed as much as anyone else or it will be a free frag class that nobody plays

Dude it literally says as a drawback "slow speed".

The class is ridiculous, PvP follows the same routine, they slow you down, speed themselves up, then kill a barb with 178hp and armor in two headshots that you cannot miss.

It's too much, pick something to excel in.

If you are a cleric player, and do this, know you aren't as good at PvP as you think you are, it's just unbalanced in your favor. They can move faster than even a barb WITHOUT armor, when he is fully armored, it's just absurd.

Barb is op, I got nearly onehitted by a barb in orange and pink gear - as a cleric. Nerf barb.

[Boutus]

Originally posted by Modragor:

Originally posted by Boutus:

Dude it literally says as a drawback "slow speed".

The class is ridiculous, PvP follows the same routine, they slow you down, speed themselves up, then kill a barb with 178hp and armor in two headshots that you cannot miss.

It's too much, pick something to excel in.

If you are a cleric player, and do this, know you aren't as good at PvP as you think you are, it's just unbalanced in your favor. They can move faster than even a barb WITHOUT armor, when he is fully armored, it's just absurd.

Barb is op, I got nearly onehitted by a barb in orange and pink gear - as a cleric. Nerf barb.

Lol dude if you are getting one shotted by a barb as a cleric, you are doing it wrong.

The barb has to use skill, he actually has to hit a moving target, you don't, respec and do the hit the slug routine, you cannot lose.

[Modragor]

Originally posted by Boutus:

Originally posted by Modragor:

Barb is op, I got nearly onehitted by a barb in orange and pink gear - as a cleric. Nerf barb.

Lol dude if you are getting one shotted by a barb as a cleric, you are doing it wrong.

The barb has to use skill, he actually has to hit a moving target, you don't, respec and do the hit the slug routine, you cannot lose.

Barb just activates his 2 shouts/buffs and goes in with easy hitting wide sings of his axe with 50 - 60 dmg, meanwhile a character with magic abilities has to aim his spell, has a book and can´t melee or has a stick with 30 melee dmg, how is this unbalanced?

Just don´t rush over long distances, a Barb has to be vulnerable over longer distances by range and magic speels, otherwise he is completely op. On short distances the cleric is done, if the Barb rushes him in wide open area he deserves to die.

[Boutus]

Originally posted by Modragor:

Originally posted by Boutus:

Lol dude if you are getting one shotted by a barb as a cleric, you are doing it wrong.

The barb has to use skill, he actually has to hit a moving target, you don't, respec and do the hit the slug routine, you cannot lose.

Barb just activates his 2 shouts/buffs and goes in with easy hitting wide sings of his axe with 50 - 60 dmg, meanwhile a character with magic abilities has to aim his spell, has a book and can´t melee or has a stick with 30 melee dmg, how is this unbalanced?

Just don´t rush over long distances, a Barb has to be vulnerable over longer distances by range and magic speels, otherwise he is completely op. On short distances the cleric is done, if the Barb rushes him in wide open area he deserves to die.

I completely disagree, you are not even addressing my point, you are strawmanning me with long distance spells, if you look at what i'm talking about, i'm specifically talking about short range, melee encounters, I specifically state this.

[effusivemind]

Originally posted by Modragor:

Barb just activates his 2 shouts/buffs and goes in with easy hitting wide sings of his axe with 50 - 60 dmg, meanwhile a character with magic abilities has to aim his spell, has a book and can´t melee or has a stick with 30 melee dmg, how is this unbalanced?

literally saw a cleric hitting for 92 total dmg per swing today.

Originally posted by Modragor:

Barb is op, I got nearly onehitted by a barb in orange and pink gear - as a cleric. Nerf barb.

wtf is pink gear

[Aelanar Brightfield]

Originally posted by Boutus:

Speed is supposed to be the clerics drawback, yet they can speed themselves up and slow you down, it's absurd.

Clerics don't have any speed boosting effects, no spells or skills that add move speed.
They *can* slow you, and faithfulness needs to not work with smite or not slow at all, but you did speak untruth

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Aelanar Brightfield:

Originally posted by Boutus:

Speed is supposed to be the clerics drawback, yet they can speed themselves up and slow you down, it's absurd.

Clerics don't have any speed boosting effects, no spells or skills that add move speed.

Gear with extra move speed go brrrrr

Oh also Bless improves Agility, which improves move speed (the exact amount +3 Agi gives I'm unsure of, but it is technically a speed boost).

[BM]

Originally posted by Modragor:

Originally posted by Boutus:

Lol dude if you are getting one shotted by a barb as a cleric, you are doing it wrong.

The barb has to use skill, he actually has to hit a moving target, you don't, respec and do the hit the slug routine, you cannot lose.

Barb just activates his 2 shouts/buffs and goes in with easy hitting wide sings of his axe with 50 - 60 dmg, meanwhile a character with magic abilities has to aim his spell, has a book and can´t melee or has a stick with 30 melee dmg, how is this unbalanced?

Just don´t rush over long distances, a Barb has to be vulnerable over longer distances by range and magic speels, otherwise he is completely op. On short distances the cleric is done, if the Barb rushes him in wide open area he deserves to die.

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