Wizard melee

[bobsdota]

Its terrible. Guy has 2 armor perks and an ability armor, an ignite spell, haste, and all of his melee weapons suck. only one with any range is the crystal sword and it does no damage, the staffs are short range and slow, the bo staff swings wildly in a combo, making it very silly to use ( your more likely to hit a wall or an obstacle than the target right in front of you. The wizard's melee needs help bad. give him rapier or fix his crap weapon selections. (would be appreciated. I'm sure this comment will fall on deaf ears. and I'll get slammed by all the trolls on the internet for trying to expect the wizard to have a decent melee mechanic.

[Nr1Endeavor]

wooden staff + ignite = op

[SimoneX93]

why the ♥♥♥♥ would you melee with a wizard?

[Aldain]

Originally posted by SimoneX93ITA:

why the ♥♥♥♥ would you melee with a wizard?

Probably because mobs resist magic and using spells on PvE mobs is less effective than just beating them in the head with a staff half the time.

What's more effective? Unloading almost all of your Zap casts to down a single skeleton or landing 3-4 hits to the head with a stick?

[Mechanique]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by SimoneX93ITA:

why the ♥♥♥♥ would you melee with a wizard?

Probably because mobs resist magic and using spells on PvE mobs is less effective than just beating them in the head with a staff half the time.

What's more effective? Unloading almost all of your Zap casts to down a single skeleton or landing 3-4 hits to the head with a stick?

Magic missile got a major buff now that staff gives bonus magic damage, I'd say it is now a contender for the best spell for PvE in entire game

[effusivemind]

Originally posted by bobsdota:

Its terrible. Guy has 2 armor perks and an ability armor, an ignite spell, haste, and all of his melee weapons suck.

Ignite is actually decent if self-cast, especially with higher magical power. although this is best done with either a staff and the Staff Mastery perk, or Rondel Dagger with Crystal Ball cuz you get many more attacks in the same time and thus more Ignite value.

Originally posted by bobsdota:

only one with any range is the crystal sword and it does no damage

Crystal Sword is known for having bad dmg at poor rarity. in fact it may be the single worst starting item in the game. it begins to do more appropriate dmg at rarities beyond that.

some wizs use it, I personally don't.

Originally posted by bobsdota:

The wizard's melee needs help bad. give him rapier or fix his crap weapon selections.

if they wanted to improve wiz melee they can buff the weapons we can already use.

Originally posted by bobsdota:

I'm sure this comment will fall on deaf ears. and I'll get slammed by all the trolls on the internet for trying to expect the wizard to have a decent melee mechanic.

the reality is a majority of wiz players are playing the class precisely cuz they don't want to be just like most melee classes currently. it's not just about perks or weapons, wizs have the lowest base health in the game and in 90% of melee situations you're better served using Magic Missile. the class in general isn't oriented towards melee. warlocks have more options in this department.

the exception would be the Ignite builds I mentioned above, and even then you would probably still be better served using MM 50-60% of the time