70H played. I can't play it anymore. You took my fun in <25 gs games.

[Cinus]

Why did they nerf the Warlock in that way?
Now no one uses TM, and everyone heals even faster with the hydra using LD.

New players like me have a really tough time playing below 25gs.
My spells don't deal damage, and now they don't heal me either. TM is not worth it.

To be able to play properly, I need 26 KNOWLEDGE, ideally 30. This is hard and challenging without the right gear or completing all the quests, and I'm still penalized for playing
as a Warlock.

The only way to play is with the hydra + LD and killing with a sword.
If I wanted to kill with a sword, I'd play as a warrior or a barbarian.

Playing HR threes hasn't changed anything because I restore my health in 3 seconds
with hydra, but playing solo, I'm the weakest minion.

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Cinus:

Why did they nerf the Warlock in that way?

If you have to ask this question you were part of the problem.

[Demonik]

Originally posted by Aldain:

Originally posted by Cinus:

Why did they nerf the Warlock in that way?

If you have to ask this question you were part of the problem.

Warlock being viable is not a problem.

About the topic: I think warlock need another way to heal. Like you said Torture Mastery is kind of useless now and with life drain + hydra it cost to much memory slots.

[Mori me]

Originally posted by ChillGamer:

Originally posted by Aldain:

If you have to ask this question you were part of the problem.

Warlock being viable is not a problem.

Warlock spaming curses jumping around and healing with it + running at a 100% movespeed in a phase form while in danger with flamewalk is a problem, yes

[Mori me]

Originally posted by Mori me:

Originally posted by ChillGamer:

Warlock being viable is not a problem.

Warlock spaming and healing with curses + running around at a 100% movespeed in a phase form with flamewalk is a problem, yes

it's not a fun concept to versing it, it's like a mosquito that you cant rid of, but it won't let you go either, it feels like you doomed and powerless, because he got answers to any of your move

[Raesha Moondancer]

Originally posted by Mori me:

Originally posted by Mori me:

Warlock spaming and healing with curses + running around at a 100% movespeed in a phase form with flamewalk is a problem, yes

it's not a fun concept to versing it, it's like a mosquito that you cant rid of, but it won't let you go either, it feels like you doomed and powerless, because he got answers to any of your move

Warlock does need some balancing tbh, right now its main weakness is long range and area denial (traps,firebombs) can really ♥♥♥♥ with the warlock's gameplan.

Classes that can quickly close the gap and do insane damage too (fighter with medium-light armor and sprint)

Should you play again against such a warlock never forget: Dont play its game, it just wants to reset every single time you even threaten it, the trick is to foil its retreat somehow, or outright not engage-bait a missplay.

[Cinus]

Originally posted by Raesha Moondancer:

Originally posted by Mori me:

it's not a fun concept to versing it, it's like a mosquito that you cant rid of, but it won't let you go either, it feels like you doomed and powerless, because he got answers to any of your move

Warlock does need some balancing tbh, right now its main weakness is long range and area denial (traps,firebombs) can really ♥♥♥♥ with the warlock's gameplan.

Classes that can quickly close the gap and do insane damage too (fighter with medium-light armor and sprint)

Should you play again against such a warlock never forget: Dont play its game, it just wants to reset every single time you even threaten it, the trick is to foil its retreat somehow, or outright not engage-bait a missplay.

Oh yes! Range is like almost meele.... Hydra? Did u guys even try summon TRENT? Tree is 10/10 while hydra is 4/10 but funnier and give us some space

[Mori me]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFtCPNoKf6U

farming bosses in no gear 1 talant like its nothing , also great in pvp yeah thats fair, i am sure other classes with their limits can do the same, at least watlocks having fun in <25

[Raesha Moondancer]

Originally posted by Mori me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFtCPNoKf6U

farming bosses in no gear 1 talant like its nothing , also great in pvp yeah thats fair

To be fair pro players could do that naked with a lute

[Mori me]

Originally posted by Cinus:

Originally posted by Raesha Moondancer:

Warlock does need some balancing tbh, right now its main weakness is long range and area denial (traps,firebombs) can really ♥♥♥♥ with the warlock's gameplan.

Classes that can quickly close the gap and do insane damage too (fighter with medium-light armor and sprint)

Should you play again against such a warlock never forget: Dont play its game, it just wants to reset every single time you even threaten it, the trick is to foil its retreat somehow, or outright not engage-bait a missplay.

Oh yes! Range is like almost meele.... Hydra? Did u guys even try summon TRENT? Tree is 10/10 while hydra is 4/10 but funnier and give us some space

its only damage tool that druid has, and it has 4 charges, it also slow, you can run away from it or wait it out, it dies in 2-3 hit, deals low amount, its better than hydra though, can fight and win goblins/skeletons 1 by 1 or bodyblock, druid has no scailing anywhere except for forms though, which has weaknesses, hes auto+treant+heals is strong <25, yet beateble. You can run at him as a mele and kill him, same with range classes, his rat form often leads to his grave, hes not outhealing all the damage while in fight, but he can prolong it and survive

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Raesha Moondancer:

Warlock does need some balancing tbh, right now its main weakness is long range and area denial (traps,firebombs) can really ♥♥♥♥ with the warlock's gameplan.

Hell, Long Range and Area Denial are the hard counter to...basically everything that isn't a Ranger or maybe a Wizard that is gaming out of their mind.

So that's not really saying much.

[effusivemind]

Originally posted by Cinus:

Now no one uses TM

this is incorrect. TM is still used, particularly at higher GS. the only thing that's changed is TM locks stack even more magical healing.

Originally posted by Cinus:

Why did they nerf the Warlock in that way?

did you honestly think it was reasonable for locks to have virtually unlimited spell casting while concurrently having disturbing rates of passive health regen from their dmg?

have you played any of the other casters?

Originally posted by Cinus:

and everyone heals even faster with the hydra using LD.

this isn't correct either. and at least Life Drain requires you to stand still and channel

[Ice Jester]

Samething for me. Bored to face 300 GS people in normal.

[Cinus]

Originally posted by effusivemind:

Originally posted by Cinus:

Now no one uses TM

this is incorrect. TM is still used, particularly at higher GS. the only thing that's changed is TM locks stack even more magical healing.

Originally posted by Cinus:

Why did they nerf the Warlock in that way?

did you honestly think it was reasonable for locks to have virtually unlimited spell casting while concurrently having disturbing rates of passive health regen from their dmg?

have you played any of the other casters?

Originally posted by Cinus:

and everyone heals even faster with the hydra using LD.

this isn't correct either. and at least Life Drain requires you to stand still and channel

Duude.... now im healing even faster....Do you understand this? Every fight im full HP with one spell.

[effusivemind]

it's not clear to me what your complaint is. from the thread it sounds like you're frustrated cuz you're not doing dmg while at the same time stacking knowledge so you can play Hydra/LD.

obviously you're not gonna do good dmg when you're not prioritizing will, magical power, and true magical dmg as a lock. you can't have it both ways.

for every single class if you average their stats you will get 15. locks happen to have the lowest knowledge for a caster, and as a result their other stats are higher. by the way, every other class also has builds that are only available or effective at 25+ GS. it's not just you guys.

it's crazy to me how much lock players are completely out of touch with what's reasonable in this game and it says a lot about what a ridiculous state the class was in

[Ogg z Kosicoch]

Originally posted by Cinus:

Why did they nerf the Warlock in that way?
Now no one uses TM, and everyone heals even faster with the hydra using LD.

New players like me have a really tough time playing below 25gs.
My spells don't deal damage, and now they don't heal me either. TM is not worth it.

To be able to play properly, I need 26 KNOWLEDGE, ideally 30. This is hard and challenging without the right gear or completing all the quests, and I'm still penalized for playing
as a Warlock.

The only way to play is with the hydra + LD and killing with a sword.
If I wanted to kill with a sword, I'd play as a warrior or a barbarian.

Playing HR threes hasn't changed anything because I restore my health in 3 seconds
with hydra, but playing solo, I'm the weakest minion.

Go fo another class.. Warlock is ♥♥♥♥ now