More Gearscore tiers, please.

[FoxHound]

I'm not allowed to use the treasure I find. If I go over 24 then it's instantly no fun allowed full purple lobbies.

[Hans]

The problem isn't the gear. The issue is there are people treating the game like a stealth gank fest where in they blitz around the map with the sole intent of ambushing and killing other players. That isn't wrong or bad, but the game is NOT PvPvE so much as PvP with some random trash mobs thrown in.

I don't want to have to play every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ match like I'm a stealth ninja, only taking a couple of steps, and listening intently for player activity. Staying in the <25 gear score lobby is also a red herring because plenty of veteran players intentionally stay in that range for the gank fest.

The game was most enjoyable when it first hit steam and everyone was clumsily running around the map. A few awkward battles or catching a battle ax to the back of the head because you were excited you found a *gasp* purple item in a chest.

Except now the new car smell is gone and at all tiers people are running around without chest armor without their weapons for max speed and constantly tip-toe so they can listen for distant ambient noise. They don't even loot the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dungeon, their inventory is half filled with potions.

I don't begrudge Dark and Darker, I hope it succeeds, I don't regret my purchase, and I'll play a little longer. However, having to metagame every match, even in the <25 gearscore lobby, is getting very old, very fast.

[BRIMStone]

Originally posted by Mky:

Originally posted by effusivemind:

personally think only greens should be allowed in norms and blues and above should be reserved for HR

Kinda makes sense. Most build are doable with optimised green gear. This is were we can start stacking decent "exotic" stats like PDR, armor pen, magical healing, etc...
It's enough to enjoy what low gear lobbies have to offer : more simplicity, lower TTK, less busted NPCs, fair fights in terms of gear equiped (thus more skill involved to compensate), more build options, and such..

Wait a minute, it almost sounds like gearing was a terrible idea PvP-wise. No wonder why the PvP option of Path of Exile and Diablo 4 were never popular lmao.

idk it just kinda sounds like if everyone's got grey starting gear or if everyone's doing Best In Slot green gear wouldnt they essentially be on the same level anyway? like whats the difference between those 2 matchups? all the buffs of one are countered by another, unless its a RPS thing of like a warlock just kiting a fighter and cursing them to death.....at that point if its all the same if we do hypotheticals on BIS and all that why even have any gear at all? grey vs grey or max BIS purp vs max BIS purp just equals out to the same # of hits, the same fight...

or maybe it's just one of those RNG games and sometimes you find someone not geared for what you have and sometimes you do, and that's part of the thrill?

[Sweets]

They tried this before but the issue is not gear score, its attributes and once you limit that then its just pure meta gaming, everyone will run the same weapons and armors to mid max the gear score tier they are on.

[Valravn]

Originally posted by Muffin:

They tried this before but the issue is not gear score, its attributes and once you limit that then its just pure meta gaming, everyone will run the same weapons and armors to mid max the gear score tier they are on.

Or you can try and create a new meta. Meta slaves don't usually understand why their builds work they just know it does.

[Uzmari]

Originally posted by Mori me:

what if purple+ just not allowed in normals, there is a problem though that f2p players will get no chance to use any purple-legendary items, but it wouldnt feel bad i guess

They did this in the past and it messed up the economy, you guys Would be surprised that you can actually kill people in blues and purples if you have good play, all you need is a green set

[Mky]

Originally posted by Uzmari:

Originally posted by Mori me:

what if purple+ just not allowed in normals, there is a problem though that f2p players will get no chance to use any purple-legendary items, but it wouldnt feel bad i guess

They did this in the past and it messed up the economy, you guys Would be surprised that you can actually kill people in blues and purples if you have good play, all you need is a green set

Quite unconvinced for the melee part. There's not that much mecanics we can use to make a difference w/o beting on gear. Sure it's doable, sometimes, but mostof the time a better weapon or armor value are what makes you win.