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Demonik 2024年6月24日 14時32分
As a solo player PvE is way too hard
PvP is fine, yes I lose more than I win but it still seems pretty fair, and I feel like if I have good gear+good skills I have a good chance to win.

PvE on the other hand, as a solo player, is completely impossible. Maybe its ok on Goblin Caves, just maybe, but on other maps its entire unfair.
Mobs are too tanky , do to much dmg, and the worst: there is way too many of them.

I really hope Iron Mace will think about this, if u are 3 player vs hard mob(s) its another WORLD then if u are solo vs the same mob(s)
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ChillGamer の投稿を引用：
PvP is fine, yes I lose more than I win but it still seems pretty fair, and I feel like if I have good gear+good skills I have a good chance to win.

PvE on the other hand, as a solo player, is completely impossible. Maybe its ok on Goblin Caves, just maybe, but on other maps its entire unfair.
Mobs are too tanky , do to much dmg, and the worst: there is way too many of them.

I really hope Iron Mace will think about this, if u are 3 player vs hard mob(s) its another WORLD then if u are solo vs the same mob(s)

Play cleric.
1. Tons of buffs available in form of speels. You can boost your damage output, increase your defense to even attribute boosts (and you can run them all at once), your special ability can literally melt an entire room of skeletons in one shot (provided they are close enough to get hit by it)
2. Tons of heals, I think you start with sanctuary and heal minor wounds which give you a total of 5 uses you can pop to heal right off the bat, plus any potions. I'm pretty sure thats waaay more heals than anyone else has.
3. Spells recharge with resting too, so it's like infinite heals if you are patient.

Other than thato once you learn how to DANCE with the mobs and you'll soon discover they are all very predictable once you know how to move quickly without backpeddling and how to bait and punish them. Running into them then running away and bashing them when they attack, or circling around them will be your bread and butter most mobs (skells, gobs, flyuing bats, bugs, zombies, mummies, spiders, centepedes, archers) will be a peice of cake and you will hardly ever take damage from them once you know "bait and punish." Harpies like to kick you in the middle and then fire this split shot thing so it's good to block the kick and then stay in front of them to dodge the spread shot.

Each mob is a "dance". You can't just rely on blocking shots and returning them. The blocking mechanic isn't a 360 100% block like vermintide, you can still get hit because it only blocks a very precise area/direction, and even on a good block the weapon can still glance off and hit you in the face (like real life). YT "Dark and Darker Bait and Punish" and you'll instantly become 20x better at dealing with mobs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsQzKe1kb4&t=40s
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Unforseen_Queefer 2024年6月24日 14時42分 
to be fair i hate pve unless its bosses/mid bosses otherwise mobs shouldnt be a major concern like in hunt showdown. also raid timers are too short they need an extra 10 minutes otherwise i never get out the spawn are.
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Saws n Sins 2024年6月24日 14時48分 
It depends on your playstyle and class, what class do you play? I main cleric (which is easy mode) but my second main is wizard and I can solo all the maps and do well against all the mobs.

Can give tips if I knew what class you played
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MartyMcFry 2024年6月24日 14時52分 
AI isn't that hard in normals. Just bait their attacks and hit when they miss. Take it slow, pull one at a time if you need to. Check out a YouTube video of their attack patterns, learn them.

AI starts getting hard against nightmare mobs, when they are faster, hit harder and have multiple attacks, but you should also be pretty geared too in high roller hell so as they get stronger so do you
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Demonik 2024年6月24日 14時56分 
Saws n Sins の投稿を引用：
It depends on your playstyle and class, what class do you play? I main cleric (which is easy mode) but my second main is wizard and I can solo all the maps and do well against all the mobs.

Can give tips if I knew what class you played

I have tried most of the classes but my favorites are Cleric, Fighter and Warlock.
Wizard felt completely useless to me (no offense intended).
最近の変更はDemonikが行いました; 2024年6月24日 14時58分
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Saws n Sins 2024年6月24日 15時05分 
ChillGamer の投稿を引用：
Saws n Sins の投稿を引用：
It depends on your playstyle and class, what class do you play? I main cleric (which is easy mode) but my second main is wizard and I can solo all the maps and do well against all the mobs.

Can give tips if I knew what class you played

I have tried most of the classes but my favorites are Cleric, Fighter and Warlock.
Wizard felt completely useless to me (no offense intended).

Wizard has a much higher skill ceiling than all the other classes. I could give advice on him if you want but if you're still new and like cleric Id recommend main that class till you get "gud" so to speak. Learn the AI and their attacking patterns. With cleric you can heal yourself a ton in raid without using items and have good gear from squire.

First step of Wizard though is don't get use to the crutch of meditation, you need to use duel spell memory. A lot more to it than that but I been playing Wizard for well over a year now (maybe almost 2) and can play all the maps and do just fine solo against all the PvE (not hell obviously). I pretty much almost never die to PvE, it PvP that kills my wizard if im caught off guard.

If you own the game and have the shared stash, play your cleric some to learn the game a lot more then you can share stuff to your wizard; however if talking sub 25 the squire will give you all you need. My main sub 25 wizard build uses 26 knowledge worth of spells and the squire will give you gear to get more than that.

edit: to me wizard is the most fun class but like I said it has a much much higher skill ceiling, you need to think fast and smart (comes with muscle memory of playing the class)
最近の変更はSaws n Sinsが行いました; 2024年6月24日 15時07分
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Demonik 2024年6月24日 15時10分 
ok thx for the advice I think I will stick to Cleric for now
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Brusom 2024年6月24日 15時10分 
I think the frost cavern is super hard the ice archers and berzerkers are hard af im playing fighter other two not too bad unless you get cornered
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Fliege 2024年6月24日 15時18分 
man I played the game for 40 hours or something, you guys cant be that bad... there is plenty of heals...
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Fliege 2024年6月24日 15時18分 
pls devs dont change the game for people who play it like 2 hours and just complain
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Saws n Sins 2024年6月24日 15時20分 
Fliege の投稿を引用：
pls devs dont change the game for people who play it like 2 hours and just complain

I don't think op was complaining so to speak, just needed some guidance. (well maybe a bit of rant he did). Us vets need to help the newer players learn the game. Some say the frost map is hard, I solo it on Wizard and do just fine.
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Fliege 2024年6月24日 15時29分 
Saws n Sins の投稿を引用：
Fliege の投稿を引用：
pls devs dont change the game for people who play it like 2 hours and just complain

I don't think op was complaining so to speak, just needed some guidance. (well maybe a bit of rant he did). Us vets need to help the newer players learn the game. Some say the frost map is hard, I solo it on Wizard and do just fine.

"PvE on the other hand, as a solo player, is completely impossible"

bru.. I am not a good player and get rekt often
(I have like 40 hours on this game, not a vet at all)
but solo is arguably the easiest mode.
especially if he says pvp is easy, he probably played 5 rounds, killed one player, but got killed by a big mob, thats supposed to kill you if you SUCK
最近の変更はFliegeが行いました; 2024年6月24日 15時31分
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Mister Bister 2024年6月24日 15時30分 
abuse ai and environment or just use shields
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Saws n Sins 2024年6月24日 15時33分 
Fliege の投稿を引用：
Saws n Sins の投稿を引用：

I don't think op was complaining so to speak, just needed some guidance. (well maybe a bit of rant he did). Us vets need to help the newer players learn the game. Some say the frost map is hard, I solo it on Wizard and do just fine.

"PvE on the other hand, as a solo player, is completely impossible"

bru.. I am not a good player and get rekt often, but solo is arguably the easiest mode.
especially if he says pvp is easy, he probably played 5 rounds, killed one player, but got killed by a big mob, thats supposed to kill you if you SUCK

And to be fair if I must say, a big mob is easiest to survive on wizard. Cast haste, then immediately follow it up with invisibility, you will lose aggro immediately and move at high speed (haste gives speed, invis gives speed). can lose most AI aggro easily. Get overwhelmed? leave the area. Just trying to give learning moments
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Faitheal 2024年6月24日 20時01分 
at first it really feels like the pve is hard, but once you learn their movements, you will be cruising through it.
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Demonik 2024年6月24日 20時51分 
Yeah yeah you are all acting like PvE is so easy and I should never die to it, but why in my games i always see lots of people dying to mobs?? From what ive seen they literally kill more than players do, maybe its different in HR but in normals no its the standard
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