Dark and Darker

Dark and Darker

UBOLG UGODL Jun 21, 2024 @ 4:24pm
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Druid rant
So I played Druid around 50 hours while being FTP. I am not the most skilled player, but I think that my experience is valid. Classes in DaD are "inspired" from some game named DnD I guess, so I will drow parallels. So, Druid:
Base kit. Druid is hybryd class, so he has vide variety of options, he can be melee, he can cast spells he can shapeshift... And allmost all of that options are trash
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First melee. Druid can use only maces, staffs and spear (only spear, no normal polearm allowed). In DnD druid and cleric can use shields, but in DaD Druid can't. Maces are one handed, slow and clunky, and it would be fine with shield, BUT Druid can't use shields haha funny. Staffs aren't weapons at all, they are slow and you can't block with them. Spear and Quaterstaff are the worst two handed weapons, they are slow, they slow your movement speed, and their block is also slower then normal two handed weapon like sword. That means druid can't win in melee fight any melee class, not even cleric or bard or ranger (they are also hybrid so comparison isn't as absurd as "druid can't melee rogue or barb")
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Ok but Druid also has spells, rights? Well, yes but:
* Druid healing spells have 0 scale (cleric spells scale if you wonder). Having healing is always good, but you can't buff it and heals can't kill. Also no ressurection (and nothing in return)
* Druid damage spells have 0 scale (every other class spells scale if you wonder). 0 on thorn barrier, no damage at all on entangling vines, 0 scale on treant (Warlocks hydra scales if you wonder)
* Druid summons are stupid. Thorn barrier is just... wall that does nothing, 4 dps isn't funny. Treant is weaker than any monster SLOWER than eny monster and has 0 AI. He stands still 60% of fights, 100% of boss fights BUT can spot mimic woah its sooooo usefull (joke)
* Druid buffs are also trash, barskin gives 20% of current AR but druid can't stack AR like warrior OR CLERIC OR WARLOCK. And Tree of life last 8 seconds and you even can't buff yourself
* The most absurd part is Dreamfire, lvl one spell that can do little dmg and heal, but has scale, SO DRUIDS PASSIVE 10 MP TO SPIRIT MAGIC IS JUST 10 AP TO DREAMFIRE. So I dont understand why every other spell can't scale?
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All that means you are supposed to play shapeshifter? LMAO
* Every shape has 0 base damage, you can't shapeshift without gear, and every form scales of different stat
* Bear is slow, you can't turn into a bear if at least one something is at 10 km radius, also he is weaker than base club. Scales with STRENGTH
* Panther gets health debuffed, deals less dmg than fist, but at least can jump. Scales with AGILITY (important later)
* Chicken has even less health. can triple jump. Ok I guess, but it isn't battle form
* Rat has like 0 health, and now has -100% dmg reduction to ensure that YOU WILL BE ONESHOTED EVEN BY ZONE DMG OR DOT. Now you can't jump through doors, so all you can do is hide around exit and wait. Also rat noises was deleted from map, so you aren't that stealthy and any aura will make you glow so you'll die.
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I didn't trash panther much cause it is only good thing in Druid... ON PAPER, CAUSE YOE AREN'T ALLOWED TO WEAR AGILITY ARMOR LIKE ROGUE OR RANGER. No Agi head, and no Agi craftable gear. Its a joke that "Druid style" armor gives DEXTERITY, but not AGILITY its so trash
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And you know the worst part? Druids summons can block two entrances, and its enough to frustrate people in PvP or make them panick. So everyone will demand Druid nerfs, cause dying to druid seems more unfair than being headshoted by Barb or backstabed by Rogue (which you can't hear) I guess
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Dracoco OwO Jun 21, 2024 @ 4:33pm 
Druid really is underwhelming honestly, it's not that strong you shouldn't panic, it doesn't need scaling on it's spells aside dreamfire because it's either crowd control or strong healing. His spells are in an ok spot, not too strong not too useless. It's other part of the kit that are a problem and scaling agility isn't even remotely hard either.
Gigantiops Jun 21, 2024 @ 4:56pm 
I completely agree, and I refuse to switch to any other class. I am determined to make it effective in some way other than at escaping.
UBOLG UGODL Jun 21, 2024 @ 4:58pm 
Originally posted by Dracoco OwO:
Druid really is underwhelming honestly, it's not that strong you shouldn't panic, it doesn't need scaling on it's spells aside dreamfire because it's either crowd control or strong healing. His spells are in an ok spot, not too strong not too useless. It's other part of the kit that are a problem and scaling agility isn't even remotely hard either.
If Druid is support, why his heals don't scale and his buffs last like 10 miliseconds?
Stopped reading once you said spear is a bad weapon.
Last edited by (Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes; Jun 21, 2024 @ 4:59pm
UBOLG UGODL Jun 21, 2024 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by (Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes:
Stopped reading once you said spear is a bad weapon.
Spear is the worst polearm what are you talking?
ente000 Jun 21, 2024 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by UBOLG UGODL:
Now you can't jump through doors
I just tried it, and it still works :)
SlurpMyT-Virus Jun 21, 2024 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by UBOLG UGODL:
Originally posted by (Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes:
Stopped reading once you said spear is a bad weapon.
Spear is the worst polearm what are you talking?

Not remotely true at all. Halberd and Bardiche are considerably worse. There is a reason why
any Ranger worth their salt almost unilaterally take the spear perk and weapon.
UBOLG UGODL Jun 21, 2024 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by SlurpMyT-Virus:
Originally posted by UBOLG UGODL:
Spear is the worst polearm what are you talking?

Not remotely true at all. Halberd and Bardiche are considerably worse. There is a reason why
any Ranger worth their salt almost unilaterally take the spear perk and weapon.
But Rangers also can use only spear (no polearm), so what the difference? Also I haven't seen any Warrior with spear while warriors can use any weapon, so how spear can be a strong weapon? Its more like "spear is your only option LMAO"
Also Ranger passive gives 7 strength so maybe thats why
Last edited by UBOLG UGODL; Jun 21, 2024 @ 5:29pm
Decado Jun 21, 2024 @ 7:25pm 
I have the treant take out multiple mobs while I loot. It can easily handle two at once normal enemies.

I agree on the animal forms, they’re all a waste plus in a PvP fight you’re more often than not m, not able to change due to radius.

Only thing I don’t like about Druid is it feels like I’m just using regrowth and treant. Nothing else is really valuable and I’m spending lots of downtime regenning spell charges.

I could see the animal forms being super imba too but right now they’re trash.
Kankaku Jun 21, 2024 @ 8:16pm 
That's what irritates me most about this game is how far it's stemmed from the source material. They should have just made it a PvE extraction with a PvP arena at a locked GS.
Discotooth™ Jun 21, 2024 @ 9:09pm 
Absolute insanity, Druid is by far the stongest class when the player knows what they are doing and has knowledge of other classes and what they can do. I am sorry to say that being F2P locked on only druid is brainwashing you into thinking druid is not very powerful.
Originally posted by Screeeee:
That's what irritates me most about this game is how far it's stemmed from the source material. They should have just made it a PvE extraction with a PvP arena at a locked GS.

What source material?

??????
A'khe Jun 21, 2024 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by (Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes:
Originally posted by Screeeee:
That's what irritates me most about this game is how far it's stemmed from the source material. They should have just made it a PvE extraction with a PvP arena at a locked GS.

What source material?

??????
I think they're implying D&D is their source material? I'm still insanely new to the game, so I can't really say anything, but being locked ftp druid kinda feels bad. I've seen multiple warlocks just come in and dunk on my friends and me. I wouldn't say Druid is the strongest. Being a rat can trigger traps, panther you feel... slow and weak from all directions, being a bear feels like a normal player but without a weapon? I'm obviously missing something from the game, or maybe I'm not understanding some things, but it just feels... idk. The only spells that feel worth using in a group is treant and healing, the only melee that feels worth doing is spear, and in my personal experience it just feels like I might as well delete my character and re-grind a warlock. Say I'm doomposting if you want, but it's not really that fun being a squishy bear, or an even squishing panther, doing what feels like no damage, and being left as... idk, a healbot?
Dagger Jul 26, 2024 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Screeeee:
That's what irritates me most about this game is how far it's stemmed from the source material. They should have just made it a PvE extraction with a PvP arena at a locked GS.

Oh buddy I wish they did this so badly
epreber0809 Jul 26, 2024 @ 11:12am 
(Me like-a do-a da-chacha if you wonder)
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