Beginner - The PvP

[Mini Mushrum]

Hey, I just downloaded the game and i'm surely going to play it with a friend, so here are my worries ;

Is the pvp a pain in the ass ? Such as fighting people who are full legendary tier or something ?

Is there any big balance issues ? Class speaking, or not ?

[effusivemind]

Originally posted by Gleipnyr:

Thanks mate !

Also uhh i play with a friend but ...

What's the point of ANY escape path, if we can't use them together ?

3 times one of used a rope or a stair, leaving the other alone to die versus 2 players.

HOW do you escape TOGETHER ??

it sounds like you're referring to Goblin Caves. the extracts you can take with friends are the central lift in the middle of the map that comes down every 2 minutes, and the triple blue portal spawns.

need to learn all extractions for each map

[Cirno]

There are extracts that can be used by multiple players. The Forgotten Castle has the most of them - the three blue portals.

[Metro Gnome Holding Metronome]

Originally posted by Gleipnyr:

Originally posted by (Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes:

If you're under 25 gear score, then the rest of the players are that as well.

Most of the time you can stay around your area and no one will bother you.

I see, i just fought a player with a mace, shield, and even spells

He removed 80% of my hps with spells, magic seems op is it not ... ?

How do you have the balls to assume something is OP when you have to ask the userbase what PVP is even like?

Seriously?

[Mini Mushrum]

Originally posted by Pilfering Gnome:

Originally posted by Gleipnyr:

I see, i just fought a player with a mace, shield, and even spells

He removed 80% of my hps with spells, magic seems op is it not ... ?

How do you have the balls to assume something is OP when you have to ask the userbase what PVP is even like?

Seriously?

It's simple, I ask people opinion, then I make my own.

I'm being objective here, after 20 games, I could clearly see magic is the way to deal the most dps

[Raesha Moondancer]

Originally posted by Gleipnyr:

Originally posted by Raesha Moondancer:

As a fighter you should of pressed the advantage, the wizard will die in 2-3 hits from your blade to the noggin.

The warlock you just gotta chase avoiding its spell throws, you can block a lot of them with your shield (not the pass through ones)

Fighter has a lot of sustain, its main weakness is barbarian when the barb pops its shouts (after the fighter can press)

I recommend shield+sword build with crossbow to poke

You should always poke and press the advantage, use cover/shield to advance.Sheathe weps to move faster when needed.

Fighter is a highly versatile unit, you can be anything from a plate tank, to a sword wielding light armored maniac. Your main weakness is being nuked with magic or bursted down, your main strenght is mitigating damage and melting most classes upclose.

If you have a shorter wep always keep in mind: long weps more easily hit walls, hold that door, use your foe's strenght against them.

Thanks mate !

Also uhh i play with a friend but ...

What's the point of ANY escape path, if we can't use them together ?

3 times one of used a rope or a stair, leaving the other alone to die versus 2 players.

HOW do you escape TOGETHER ??

All maps have group escapes, goblin caves has a middle elevator in the middle, and rooms with triple portals, you will see them as a short of blue circle on the map.

The other escapes are intended for solo's or last resort escapes. Always go to secure an escape when the timer nears its end.

For crypts you only have triple portals, you can also use red stairs to go to hell, wich also has triple portals but is harder.

For the caves, youll see a boat icon in rooms with water, the boat will pass through now and then and you can ride it to escape, you can also go to one of the rooms with a big ass pit with clouds at the bottom, at certain time you can go down there to safely land in the abyss, the next level. Wich also has triple portals.

[Mini Mushrum]

Originally posted by Cirno:

There are extracts that can be used by multiple players. Crypts has the most of them - the three blue portals.

I've seen a few portals, but the device always spawned a single one tho, pretty sure that one is only for one player right?

[Shortpower]

Originally posted by Gleipnyr:

I see.

Also quick question !

I'm playing as a fighter, but cleric seems better somehow ? It's basically the same BUT with spells ?

Fighter can wear plate and still keep up with most faster classes. It's probably the weakest class out of the box, but once you do armorers first quest Squire will allow you to spawn with plate gear. Strongly recommend Light Gloves and the French named helmet (these will give ok defense and a decent amount of speed).

Cleric has support and allows you to reset from PvE mistakes easily but Crossbow + Sword and Board plate fighter is a menace. Having played both, I strongly prefer fighter for PvP. Barbarian + Cleric is a pretty nutty duo combo though.

Originally posted by Gleipnyr:

I've seen a few portals, but the device always spawned a single one tho, pretty sure that one is only for one player right?

Portals (the blue dash triangles on the map) are 3 person. In Goblin Caves middle of the map has an elevator that comes down every 3 minutes you can use. Ice Cavern has a boat spawn in the North West and South East that spawn a boat every few minutes, and a single use elevator north center. Strongly recommend using an online map tool while learning the game.

[effusivemind]

Originally posted by Shortpower:

In Goblin Caves middle of the map has an elevator that comes down every 3 minutes you can use.

I believe it's 2 minutes. you can test this by waiting. it arrives around ~3:30 and ~1:30. I know it comes around 5:30 as well

[Shortpower]

Originally posted by effusivemind:

Originally posted by Shortpower:

In Goblin Caves middle of the map has an elevator that comes down every 3 minutes you can use.

I believe it's 2 minutes. you can test this by waiting. it arrives around ~3:30 and ~1:30. I know it comes around 5:30 as well

Can confirm 1:30~ (1:26 almost exactly), so you're probably more accurate ye.

[Metro Gnome Holding Metronome]

Originally posted by Gleipnyr:

Originally posted by Pilfering Gnome:

How do you have the balls to assume something is OP when you have to ask the userbase what PVP is even like?

Seriously?

It's simple, I ask people opinion, then I make my own.

I'm being objective here, after 20 games, I could clearly see magic is the way to deal the most dps

LOL

[Undertaker]

Originally posted by (Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes:

If you're under 25 gear score, then the rest of the players are that as well.

Most of the time you can stay around your area and no one will bother you.

never heard a bigger lie, i just started have 5gaer score and get two shoted by lvl112 with 200gaer score

[TyresTyco]

Originally posted by Undertaker:

Originally posted by (Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes:

If you're under 25 gear score, then the rest of the players are that as well.

Most of the time you can stay around your area and no one will bother you.

never heard a bigger lie, i just started have 5gaer score and get two shoted by lvl112 with 200gaer score

You obviously find items in the dungeon rofl. Doesnt take much for 100-200 gs.

[Mini Mushrum]

Originally posted by Pilfering Gnome:

Originally posted by Gleipnyr:

It's simple, I ask people opinion, then I make my own.

I'm being objective here, after 20 games, I could clearly see magic is the way to deal the most dps

LOL

You're not being useful at all on the topic mate, just leave or accept people opinions.

Magic seems definitely to be THE way to deal with most classes, i'm sorry it this troubles you but after watching videos, and playing solo / duo and trio with friends, it's a fact, not that bothers me

Save your anger for irl matters

[derw4tz]

i always wondered wether it makes more sense to start in solo first;

an important thing in the game is learning how to tackle the different kind of npc enemies and often in the coop i see people just agree that 1 guy has to kite while the other is killing them;

also the pvp is more complex in 2v2 vs 1v1

Duo just allows new players to skip some mechanics that you would learn quicker in solo

[Oddball]

Originally posted by derw4tz:

i always wondered wether it makes more sense to start in solo first;

an important thing in the game is learning how to tackle the different kind of npc enemies and often in the coop i see people just agree that 1 guy has to kite while the other is killing them;

also the pvp is more complex in 2v2 vs 1v1

Duo just allows new players to skip some mechanics you would learn quicker in solo

Yes, I think it's easier and "safer" to learn in solo. Suriviability may be lower, so most of the players will die in the opening minutes, meaning the likelihood of encountering the remaining players is far less than if trying to learn in duos or trios. Also means there's plenty of unused exits to get to. Learn on a tanky fighter/cleric or ranger, then move to the others in duos/trios. Some classes are really hard to learn/survive solo (rogue, casters etc) if you have no prior experience (like me lol)

Also I'd suggest to get one's movement speed above 300 and you can outrun and kite most anything. So if in a panic, can run through a zone/room, open/close a door and keep moving without getting caught.