This is by definition f2p

[Kangaroo Salesman]

You guys are given good chunk of it to play and are still angry about that. I quote "Free-to-play (F2P or FtP) video games are games that give players access to a significant portion of their content without paying or do not require paying to continue playing." As you can play majority of the game, quests, classes(although only one at a time) and are put into matches with paid player to which they don't have an advantage over you. It would by definition be a f2p.

[The Faceless Man]

Shared stash is P2W

[Klax]

Originally posted by The Faceless Man:

Shared stash is P2W

By using the loot that you extracted with and earned yourself?

[The Faceless Man]

Originally posted by Klax:

By using the loot that you extracted with and earned yourself?

For every class, quest, and crafting item that is less accessible to other classes, yup.

[RoosterSuplex]

Originally posted by The Faceless Man:

Originally posted by Klax:

By using the loot that you extracted with and earned yourself?

For every class, quest, and crafting item that is less accessible to other classes, yup.

so no circle, shared stash, is there a cap on pots being brought in? or can i just stack my inv with hp?

[CyanCatMan]

Originally posted by The Faceless Man:

For every class, quest, and crafting item that is less accessible to other classes, yup.

The quest items you still have to find.
The locations you have to explore and escape with said class.
Crafting… is non-existant? And again you yourself have to extract with those items.

Sorry but am i reading that playing the game is P2W now?

[MithrilRoshi]

Thats whats called a demo

[Capt. Slappy]

Ftp? what the hell does that mean, ♥♥♥♥ the ♥♥♥♥♥?

No one says FtP for free to play, well no one except you. Always has been F2P.

[Mister Bister]

its predatory and exploitative
nobody is obligated to kiss ironmaces ass when they dont respect their players
and nobody will keep playing an extraction game where you cant use your extracted gear

[CyanCatMan]

Originally posted by Mister Bister:

its predatory and exploitative
nobody is obligated to kiss ironmaces ass when they dont respect their players
and nobody will keep playing an extraction game where you cant use your extracted gear

Sigh... must i keep pointing at the store page's big bold letters of:

FREE-TO-PLAY VERSION!
The Free-to-Play version allows players to create one character and play Normal mode on all maps, complete quests, and build a stash of loot! Players who enjoy their time with the free version and want to experience everything the game has to offer can upgrade to the full version for 15 Redstone shards. The full version of the game includes access to the High-Roller mode, where players can equip their hard earned gear to take on even more dangerous dungeons and up the stakes. Players will also gain access to the marketplace where they can trade with other adventurers, 9 total character slots, and the Shared Stash!

We hope that this version will give players a chance to experience some of what Dark and Darker has to offer, and to give players who have not played since the playtests a chance to see what's new before they dive into the full edition.

[Æsir]

Originally posted by CyanCatMan:

Originally posted by Mister Bister:

its predatory and exploitative
nobody is obligated to kiss ironmaces ass when they dont respect their players
and nobody will keep playing an extraction game where you cant use your extracted gear

Sigh... must i keep pointing at the store page's big bold letters of:

FREE-TO-PLAY VERSION!
The Free-to-Play version allows players to create one character and play Normal mode on all maps, complete quests, and build a stash of loot! Players who enjoy their time with the free version and want to experience everything the game has to offer can upgrade to the full version for 15 Redstone shards. The full version of the game includes access to the High-Roller mode, where players can equip their hard earned gear to take on even more dangerous dungeons and up the stakes. Players will also gain access to the marketplace where they can trade with other adventurers, 9 total character slots, and the Shared Stash!

We hope that this version will give players a chance to experience some of what Dark and Darker has to offer, and to give players who have not played since the playtests a chance to see what's new before they dive into the full edition.

Oh this isn't so bad. It's basically a demo and then you decide if you want to buy the full version. I don't mind this at all. It's not quite f2p and it's definitely not p2w.

[『LSR』ElPapiAdonis]

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[Loon]

Originally posted by Mister Bister:

its predatory and exploitative
nobody is obligated to kiss ironmaces ass when they dont respect their players
and nobody will keep playing an extraction game where you cant use your extracted gear

You're talking as if you were lured to a "paid" version of the game then found out you need upgrade to the real experience. It was clearly stated what the Free Version entails.

I swear every Dev should just consider going back to charging 30 Dollars and just increase the testing time to 4 hours and Steam, and let people refund, because cry babies like the quoted OP will feel entitled to more if it were completely free.

[Mister Bister]

Originally posted by Loon:

Originally posted by Mister Bister:

its predatory and exploitative
nobody is obligated to kiss ironmaces ass when they dont respect their players
and nobody will keep playing an extraction game where you cant use your extracted gear

You're talking as if you were lured to a "paid" version of the game then found out you need upgrade to the real experience. It was clearly stated what the Free Version entails.

I swear every Dev should just consider going back to charging 30 Dollars and just increase the testing time to 4 hours and Steam, and let people refund, because cry babies like the quoted OP will feel entitled to more if it were completely free.

believe it or not, i dont feel like giving my money to a company who would rather resort to manipulating tricks rather than focusing on making a quality product with clear description of the game they are selling
nowhere does it say about gear restrictions in normal dungeons, in fact, its written intentionally vaguely, the exact opposite of "clearly stated". its quite apparent to why that is to anyone with a functioning brain and no bias to admit it
and obviously its clear that many other people feel indignified in the same way, if you look at the reviews
i dont see other B2P games on steam receiving this targeted and malicious criticism that they should be free, like all of you people living in fantasy land think this game is receiving

[CyanCatMan]

Originally posted by Mister Bister:

believe it or not, i dont feel like giving my money to a company who would rather resort to manipulating tricks rather than focusing on making a quality product with clear description of the game they are selling
nowhere does it say about gear restrictions in normal dungeons, in fact, its written intentionally vaguely, the exact opposite of "clearly stated". its quite apparent to why that is to anyone with a functioning brain and no bias to admit it
and obviously its clear that many other people feel indignified in the same way, if you look at the reviews
i dont see other B2P games on steam receiving this targeted and malicious criticism that they should be free, like all of you people living in fantasy land think this game is receiving

Hey man did you read what i said? Look at the store page?
It's clear cut and dry what the game is and what it offers.

Your just being a troll far as anyone can see...

[Mister Bister]

Originally posted by CyanCatMan:

Hey man did you read what i said? Look at the store page?
It's clear cut and dry what the game is and what it offers.

Your just being a troll far as anyone can see...

if you dont have actual valid arguments to say i dont see anything i would need to respond to