Game destroying my HDD

[Koffing 🐸]

It's been a few months and the bug with HDD loading up to 100% has still not been fixed.

I will mention that the game is on SSD. But for some reason it loads HDD...

[ShaZe]

Originally posted by Anger_By_Design:

I got like a 10 year old comp and the game works fine, in fact unreal4 crashed my comp all day every day, this game has NEVER crashed once. if my PC sub-race can handle this so called hot mess then what are all you going on bout?

The games runs fine lol, it just slowly degrade the lifetime of your drives meanwhile for absolutely no reason, that is all. Learn to comprehend the issue.

[AbD]

Originally posted by ShaZe:

Originally posted by Anger_By_Design:

I got like a 10 year old comp and the game works fine, in fact unreal4 crashed my comp all day every day, this game has NEVER crashed once. if my PC sub-race can handle this so called hot mess then what are all you going on bout?

The games runs fine lol, it just slowly degrade the lifetime of your drives meanwhile for absolutely no reason, that is all. Learn to comprehend the issue.

10 YEAR OLD COMP! it aint going to die! nothing going to kill this old klunker!

[Koffing 🐸]

I had no doubt that the developers of the game are fascists. It wasn't enough for them to destroy the beautiful concept of the dungeon crawler, so they also want to destroy the computers of ordinary peaceful inhabitants. This is just nonsense....

It seems to me that I should visit a psychiatrist and tell him about the horrors that I have been able to survive lately...

[II-KING-II]

HDD

[Souren Araya]

Originally posted by ShaZe:

People in this thread are so dumb. Most claims it's the OP's system that is at fault when its actually the game ripping everything appart. They also don't seem to grasps that good systems uses both SSD's and HDD, the price/return ratio is still very much in favor of HDDs, I doubt any of them can have the 20TB from only a handful of SSDs.

And for the ones who do not believe that their game is screwing up with your system, here's the proof:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3274671182

Do you have any idea if Tavernworker would try to scan an encrypted drive? I'd rather just encrypt than unplug my drives to play... also can't believe how many idiots are in this thread and commenting on tech matters they don't understand. hurr hdd in 2024? hurr

[Mechanique]

Originally posted by Souren Araya:

Do you have any idea if Tavernworker would try to scan an encrypted drive? I'd rather just encrypt than unplug my drives to play... also can't believe how many idiots are in this thread and commenting on tech matters they don't understand. hurr hdd in 2024? hurr

Someone that wants to encrypt the disk just to play the game calls someone else idiots, this is just the purest lack of self awareness

[ShaZe]

Yeah... it's fine.. when browsing this forum as well as another, Iv been reminded plenty of time that there's likely a very high ratio of kids hanging around here. They love to make fun of things they don't understand and/or disapprove.

They talk as if we didn't already have several SSD or as if HDD or even tape had no purpose at all. Maybe they will learn a thing or two and that's fine, but hopefully more players that care about their system will become aware of the issue.

The game has no reason to start reading every single file of a system while you are distracted playing it, especially if they are not even in use. I didn't bother to check whether it seemed to be sending any data back, I don't think it does but I could be wrong. But just the fact that it reads everything is enough to stop playing it in the meantime, or forever.

But yeah, Im kind of astonished that I found that, I thought I had seen every kind of crap some softwares pulls off. If anything, I would have expected a trojan, a kernel anti-cheat, or or some specific data to be sent back. But scans across the entire system and reading every single files? That's definitely a new one.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by ShaZe:

But scans across the entire system and reading every single files? That's definitely a new one.

Time to stop playing dark and darker until the devs can either explain this software in detail, or create something lighter on the drives.

[Handbanana]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Originally posted by ShaZe:

But scans across the entire system and reading every single files? That's definitely a new one.

Time to stop playing dark and darker until the devs can either explain this software in detail, or create something lighter on the drives.

Its called anticheat. They all do this. Most do it even more egregiously by literally embedding themselves in your root files and gaining root access to every system on your computer completely bypassing all data restrictions and privacy concerns.

Literally every anticheat acts like a virus because that is what it is. If your old obsolete hardware can't handle a simple system scan its not the programs fault.

[Hannah Barbara]

Stable Diffuse? You mean this game is using my computer to generate AI porn?

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Handbanana:

Literally every anticheat acts like a virus because that is what it is. If your old obsolete hardware can't handle a simple system scan its not the programs fault.

Denuvo slows down the games it's attached to, however my rig is not obsolete. No software should be actively reducing the lifespan of the pc at the other end.

[Cirno]

Originally posted by Hannah Barbara:

Stable Diffuse? You mean this game is using my computer to generate AI porn?

Those are pre-existing files on ShaZe's computer, the game is just scanning them.

The "CreateFile" operation is a bit of misnomer as it also gets shown for actions that are not actually creating the file but read it (it's different from the ReadFile).

[Handbanana]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Originally posted by Handbanana:

Literally every anticheat acts like a virus because that is what it is. If your old obsolete hardware can't handle a simple system scan its not the programs fault.

Denuvo slows down the games it's attached to, however my rig is not obsolete. No software should be actively reducing the lifespan of the pc at the other end.

Literally all software reduces the lifespan of the PC. When a PC is in use all of its components are degrading over time. Even just windows by itself. Unless you are getting extreme heat temperatures nothing crazy is happening. Even if it did push a HDD to 100% utilization that doesn't mean anything. Drives are designed to be used at 100% for 10s of thousands of hours or iterations.

The average lifespan of a HDD is only 5 years. It degrades in performance up till that point. If you drive is older than 5-10 years old it isn't about IF it will fail but about WHEN it will fail.

They are designed for long term storage and you shouldn't really be installing programs on them anymore. All of that AI stuff on that guys computer is probably going to melt that drive in under a year.

[ShaZe]

Originally posted by Handbanana:

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Time to stop playing dark and darker until the devs can either explain this software in detail, or create something lighter on the drives.

Its called anticheat. They all do this. Most do it even more egregiously by literally embedding themselves in your root files and gaining root access to every system on your computer completely bypassing all data restrictions and privacy concerns.

Literally every anticheat acts like a virus because that is what it is. If your old obsolete hardware can't handle a simple system scan its not the programs fault.

'They all do this'

Originally posted by Handbanana:

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Denuvo slows down the games it's attached to, however my rig is not obsolete. No software should be actively reducing the lifespan of the pc at the other end.

Literally all software reduces the lifespan of the PC. When a PC is in use all of its components are degrading over time. Even just windows by itself. Unless you are getting extreme heat temperatures nothing crazy is happening. Even if it did push a HDD to 100% utilization that doesn't mean anything. Drives are designed to be used at 100% for 10s of thousands of hours or iterations.

The average lifespan of a HDD is only 5 years. It degrades in performance up till that point. If you drive is older than 5-10 years old it isn't about IF it will fail but about WHEN it will fail.

They are designed for long term storage and you shouldn't really be installing programs on them anymore. All of that AI stuff on that guys computer is probably going to melt that drive in under a year.

At this point Im not even sure what you are defending. You have been talking out of your ass since the very beginning of this thread. It just sounds like you can't accept that its a bad anti-cheat.

At first it was this guy's computer, now its the software that does normal 'software things'

Yes, all softwares reduce the lifespan of your hardware, there's just a huge difference between softwares that reads a few hundreds of files and caching a few MB/GBs of resources in memory and... I don't know, something that will go through over a million files and read several terabytes of data every time it is being ran.

If this isn't an issue with you, cool, just go on the other topics. If you are trying to say that these scans are actually good for us, oh by all means, explain to me how they benefit us.
Anticheats should always go through every single dormant files, it is the most efficient way to catch cheaters afterall.

[Handbanana]

Originally posted by ShaZe:

Originally posted by Handbanana:

Its called anticheat. They all do this. Most do it even more egregiously by literally embedding themselves in your root files and gaining root access to every system on your computer completely bypassing all data restrictions and privacy concerns.

Literally every anticheat acts like a virus because that is what it is. If your old obsolete hardware can't handle a simple system scan its not the programs fault.

'They all do this'

Originally posted by Handbanana:

Literally all software reduces the lifespan of the PC. When a PC is in use all of its components are degrading over time. Even just windows by itself. Unless you are getting extreme heat temperatures nothing crazy is happening. Even if it did push a HDD to 100% utilization that doesn't mean anything. Drives are designed to be used at 100% for 10s of thousands of hours or iterations.

The average lifespan of a HDD is only 5 years. It degrades in performance up till that point. If you drive is older than 5-10 years old it isn't about IF it will fail but about WHEN it will fail.

They are designed for long term storage and you shouldn't really be installing programs on them anymore. All of that AI stuff on that guys computer is probably going to melt that drive in under a year.

At this point Im not even sure what you are defending. You have been talking out of your ass since the very beginning of this thread. It just sounds like you can't accept that its a bad anti-cheat.

At first it was this guy's computer, now its the software that does normal 'software things'

Yes, all softwares reduce the lifespan of your hardware, there's just a huge difference between softwares that reads a few hundreds of files and caching a few MB/GBs of resources in memory and... I don't know, something that will go through over a million files and read several terabytes of data every time it is being ran.

If this isn't an issue with you, cool, just go on the other topics. If you are trying to say that these scans are actually good for us, oh by all means, explain to me how they benefit us.
Anticheats should always go through every single dormant files, it is the most efficient way to catch cheaters afterall.

It literally is his computer. The hardware is what is causing the issue. Programs today expect higher levels of system specifications. Not a single game today recommends using a HDD. They haven't been recommended for use in over a decade even at this point.

It literally doesn't do this every time it launches. I expect people with little to no knowledge of computer systems are interrupting or canceling this file scan and that is causing it to restart.

I would also like to point out that when I run the game it doesn't do that. I have an external SSD with about 4 TB of files for work and other stuff. If they were running a system that was modern I expect that file scan would be completed in about 60 seconds and it wouldn't happen again.


If you don't like anticheat programs then you can just not play online games. The programs aren't going anywhere.