Nexon's lawsuit is failing... Steam needs to wake up!

[Nightbjorn]

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[Mr B.]

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No, I wasn't talking to you. And while it's an open discussion, you went into the whole Nexon V IM as though I was doing direct comparison. It certainly wasn't.

However, I've read in various places it was a countersuit. I am completely correct, because they did indeed award money to MGA because it was decided Mattell stole secrets.

I just don't get your mental gymnastics. There were two cases, both judged on the merit of proof and argument.

The fact the original got overturned was due to the countersuit. Which again, relies on evidence, argument etc.

Damages were awarded in both cases.

In either event, the company had to prove they had ownership of said item, and if it was copied. In both events, this happened.

So if you do want to compare, IM could lose. They could then counter, which means they might win. Can you see what I'm getting at? Not being insulting but I honestly can't put it any simpler.

I see what your saying about media type, but there's no reason to think it's an absolute no.

Anyone saying this as an absolute is frankly guessing. This is my point, and it's correct.

Unless of course, they are going to be the judge and have a preconceived decision before seeing all evidence and arguments from both sides.

Yeah it was a sarcastic statement. Because you quoted someone who wasn't talking to you yourself before I did the same to you. And no, direct comparison wasn't the point nor was I stating that you were doing that. I did it. Because Mattel was the one with an employee who took an idea elsewhere, MGA, kind of like the situation in Nexon and Ironmace.

I stated it was basically one case because you are talking about it as if it constitutes multiple examples of your similarity arguement and the fact that companies can sue and win over it. It doesn't. It is the same two companies over the same issue going into court against eachother multiple times, again, for the same thing.

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That's 2 cases where it was won on similarities. It wasn't overturned. It was all about the best evidence, and most convincing case.

You explicitly stated that it was not overturned, now you are saying, "It was overturned because of the countersuit". That's not how a countersuit works. The original trial was remanded, which means it was brought back to lower court so the case can be reconsidered. You say I'm doing mental gymnastics but you don't actually understand what you are talking about here.

As I stated, "The court of appeals reversed the decision and the case was remanded for a new trial". No, it was not a countersuit, MGA filed a countersuit later after they had essentially won the remanded trial. Look at legal or educational sources that covered the case, not things like tabloid news.

All that being said, your not wrong there. Nexon could win and then Ironmace could come back and appeal or vice versa. And yea, there is no absolute no or yes regardless of what other cases have produced.

It's not about being absolutely right or wrong. Or just trying to be an Ironmace / Nexon "shill". People come in and make blanket statements about things they don't actually understand or even research. While people do it defending Ironmace, it is primarily those coming in to defend Nexon's stance or crap on Ironmace. Which is why, despite trying to be objective, I primarily come across defending Ironmace. I do know Nexon has a case and can actually win. But it is not black and white. There's a lot of gray.

Thank you, I know I'm right. As I've pointed out, I am not legal trained in any way, but even a lobotomised monkey can see my point if they are not biased.

Yes, I have mixed terminology, hence saying it was overturned. Yes I'm flawed, yes I'm fallible. But however the terminology, there was still 2 CASES. Call it a retrial, call it whatever. My point is correct and still stands.

Both had a decision. Both had payouts, and infringements (if you want to split hairs, one was infringement, successfully won, then after the next was them stealing 'secrets').

Both were based on similarity. And if anyone thinks that can never be replicated across different media, they are sorely mistaken.

[Guachameleon]

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Lol the occasional times I check this thread I see the same 4 Nexon enthusiasts posting over and over again trying everything in their power to downplay anyone who thinks differently. Basically the White Knight's of Nexon..

Honestly, I wish I had as much time as these guys..

And I see the same 4 IM fanboys who got a brief taste of one game white knight the company that honestly, wouldn't give 2 ♥♥♥♥♥ about you.

They've done nothing to earn your loyalty, so why do people defend them so?

Bet you feel real stupid after the lawsuit got rejected as baseless, also the over 1k new lawsuits against nexon for Maplestory

[Piromanijak]

Came here after a few months to check what is going on, and lol i see the same people argueing and defending Nexon like lmao do u ppl have jobs or does Nexon pay you to do this ♥♥♥♥ jesus.

[Zev]

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Came here after a few months to check what is going on, and lol i see the same people argueing and defending Nexon like lmao do u ppl have jobs or does Nexon pay you to do this ♥♥♥♥ jesus.

Does Ironmace pay you ?

[(Farkon) 2m_anylootboxes]

Imagine defending Nexon.