Why do you trust Iron Mace so much?

[넓4734]

At this point, shouldn't we be suspicious of Iron Mace's actions?
Steam doesn't take down games for no big reason

[Low_IQ_Huan]

Originally posted by Tomibouzu:

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

that's fair, that's your opinion and I can respect that.

I'm just thinking ironmace may not have precedents but that's because they are completely new so you can,t know what's hiding behind and so far what we know for certain is that the employee who worked for nexon incentivized others to leave and decided to create a game that is almost a carbon copy of project p3, even if they used their own assets and code its still a little shady to me so for a company that has been out for months to have already this amount of shady stuff going around them doesn't make me believe that they are saints.

have you looked at the stuff being claimed to be stolen? legit they got a readme file listed as stolen. The rest are all mostly Unreal assets.

yes I have, if you look past the unreal engine store assets there are still over 1000 files with the same name and we dont have the files from p3 so we dont know if any of those 1000 files were really stolen, only the investigation will tell

And from what I understand nexon didnt claim all of those files were stolen, they just claimed having 2338 files with the same name was sketchy and that those files needed to be investigated. I might be wrong here but that was my understanding

[Jaggervice]

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

yes I have, if you look past the unreal engine store assets there are still over 1000 files with the same name and we dont have the files from p3 so we dont know if any of those 1000 files were really stolen, only the investigation will tell

And from what I understand nexon didnt claim all of those files were stolen, they just claimed having 2338 files with the same name was sketchy and that those files needed to be investigated. I might be wrong here but that was my understanding

Nexon stated 2338 files, but in the DMCA excluded the files that could be based on using the same engine. That left around 1030 files. The list Ironmace posted shows that around 950 of them come straight from unreal marketplace, with links to the direct assets. The rest, around 80 (41 after considering duplicates?) are generic things, like fireball and torch.

[Reivan]

DMCA's are evidence of nothing. False DMCA's happen all the time just look at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Youtube. Look at it and tell me false dmca's don't happen. All it means is steam doesn't want any trouble if Nexon's claims are true.

[Rikuto01]

Originally posted by 넓4734:

At this point, shouldn't we be suspicious of Iron Mace's actions?
Steam doesn't take down games for no big reason

Because they have been willing to submit their game code and assets to a third party for comparison while Nexon has been blowing hot air. One of these entities has been transparent and the other has not.

As for Steam, they are covering their asses until it is resolved. They are a third party in this case with no affiliation either way and don't want to get dragged into legal nonsense.

[Crissie]

Why do you trust Valve so much? Valve can take down games from Steam for any reason.

[faiNt']

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

nexon is salty they canceled a game, and the devs left and went and decided to make that game, and then when nexon realized they missed out on ALOT of money, they got butthurt and now theyre trying to snuff out the game and the studio.

baby doesn't want to play with toy
other baby starts playing with toy
baby wants toy again

[Empaparse]

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

Originally posted by ChinesePorkFarts:

I just Iron Mace because of how transparent they have been the entire time. I wont touch a Nexon Game ever. All of the RPG extraction shooters that are going to come out because of Iron Mace making a game genuinely for entertainment of the people and not for a cash grab will be awesome.

They could've easily be transparent with lies, who's to say they are in the right here ? even if they did steal they wouldn't admit to it since it would kill their public image.

Yall just believe anything fr I dont know if its because you're too nice and you want to believe they didnt do anything wrong or you're just an idiot

But you believe Nexon?

[donut32]

the more i read into this the more i see it as a disgruntled employee that left and swiped an IP/assets and convinced some devs to follow them. every time details emerge and ironmace makes a half snaky post about it, the more i see this going in favor of nexon.

[Terminal Velocity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm7AhJoUdJU

[Mr Shlup]

Steam took down Atlas (i think that was the name?) for no reason. Up until today, Ark didn't file any law suit and didn't even blame atlas

[Low_IQ_Huan]

Originally posted by Empaparse:

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

They could've easily be transparent with lies, who's to say they are in the right here ? even if they did steal they wouldn't admit to it since it would kill their public image.

Yall just believe anything fr I dont know if its because you're too nice and you want to believe they didnt do anything wrong or you're just an idiot

But you believe Nexon?

no I just dont believe anyone, the only reason you might think that I believe nexon is because I've been playing devil's advocate because too many people blindly believe ironmace which I dont believe. I hope they didnt do anything wrong and that they are gonna be able to finish DnD but IF they did something wrong I'm not gonna take their side just because I dont really like nexon, like I said earlier there's nothing I hate more than liars and thiefs. whoever is in the wrong here I'll just never support them with my money again, I'm gonna have to wait and see how the trial goes.

[Scripted_Valor]

Ultimately you want to know why we trust Iron mace over Nexon is simple. Iron Mace says "yes one of our key developers for the game is a former Nexon employee." Nexon says "What Unity server?"

[Jossiwales]

ugh they already listed their proof in their discord. It's just a matter of time before they get a court date and are able to, not only fix this situation, but countersue for defamation and reclaim their lost time/money. if you side with nexon you're also probably a trump supporter who can't make decisions for themselves and believe all billionaires got your back. Just because a company is bigger, doesn't mean they're right.

[David]

Originally posted by Jossiwales:

ugh they already listed their proof in their discord. It's just a matter of time before they get a court date and are able to, not only fix this situation, but countersue for defamation and reclaim their lost time/money. if you side with nexon you're also probably a trump supporter who can't make decisions for themselves and believe all billionaires got your back. Just because a company is bigger, doesn't mean they're right.

This.

Also it wouldn't be the first time steam took a game off the store because of a crappy claim that was quickly fixed. I follow a lot of indie games.

[sL Ug]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx-yi57cdyQ&t=2s&ab_channel=Onepeg