Why do you trust Iron Mace so much?

[넓4734]

At this point, shouldn't we be suspicious of Iron Mace's actions?
Steam doesn't take down games for no big reason

[FienX]

bro lol, steam doesnt care, nexon is a much bigger company than ironmace, of course if nexon comes to steam saying they served ironmace a cease and desist, steam will instantly take it down... theyr quite literally just covering their own ass, lmao, it has nothing to do with steam picking sides on whos right or wrong xD, you must not know how the corporate world works lmfao, the only thing that matters is MONEY, and who currently has the most of it, and who stands to lose the most of it.

no way steam will put themselves in a legal mess if they dont have to, all ironmace has to do is present proof the claims arent true and then it will be green-lit again.

if you knew anything about the case, you would know nexon isnt even suing ironmace for "stealing" assets, like everyone is claiming... the assets in question were purchased from unreal store, and you can literally see them on the unreal store page right now, the mummys, mosquitos, EVEN the dungeon layout and textures, ALL are very LEGAL assets, that you can purchase.

if anything theonly thing that was stolen was an idea for a game genre, that already exists and prospers, that ISNT illegal, lmfao.

---- furthermore, the cease and desist and DMCA was NOT court ordered, or served... nexon served them, meaning ironmace could technically ignore it, but nexon is trying to strongarm ironmace into a corner because they have ALOT more money and could technically hold dark and darker and the ironmace team in legal limbo for years if they wanted too.

nexon is salty they canceled a game, and the devs left and went and decided to make that game, and then when nexon realized they missed out on ALOT of money, they got butthurt and now theyre trying to snuff out the game and the studio. its really that simple, technically no side is wrong currently until actual proof is provided, that being said, ironmace HAS provided proof to authorities that their game, code, engine, assets, etc, was not stolen, they were raided twice, and each time nothing was found.

only time will tell what happens from here.

----- as of right now, the playtest for next month is still going to happen, this was said in the pinned messages by one of the higher ups on their discord--> "as of the moment, we do not have further information than what is alreasy available through the #announcements tab, meaning for now, until further notice, the playtest is still planned"
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this is subject to change at any given moment, and if they cant get it green-lit on steam again due to the legal actions taken against ironmace, then they will likely have to make their own client, or use epic games, etc.

to wrap all of what i just said up, as of now the playtest is still planned (could change literally any minute)-- the cease and desist served to ironmace, was served by nexons lawyers, NOT court ordered, meaning ironmace could quite literally ignore it and proceed with their development, but with the understanding that nexon will likely push any legal action they can muster up into full effect if they ignore their attempts to shut the game down.-- as of now, it seems like its a case of a multi billion company pissed that they cancelled an idea they had that would of made alot of money, and theyre trying to be greedy and not let anyone else cash in on the idea, by snuffing out anyone that tries to publish it.

no true court ordered action has been taken other than the raids and seizures on ironmace, which happened twice, and again, no foul play was found in both raids.

[Low_IQ_Huan]

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

bro lol, steam doesnt care, nexon is a much bigger company than ironmace, of course if nexon comes to steam saying they served ironmace a cease and desist, steam will instantly take it down... theyr quite literally just covering their own ass, lmao, it has nothing to do with steam picking sides on whos right or wrong xD, you must not know how the corporate world works lmfao, the only thing that matters is MONEY, and who currently has the most of it, and who stands to lose the most of it.

no way steam will put themselves in a legal mess if they dont have to, all ironmace has to do is present proof the claims arent true and then it will be green-lit again.

if you knew anything about the case, you would know nexon isnt even suing ironmace for "stealing" assets, like everyone is claiming... the assets in question were purchased from unreal store, and you can literally see them on the unreal store page right now, the mummys, mosquitos, EVEN the dungeon layout and textures, ALL are very LEGAL assets, that you can purchase.

if anything theonly thing that was stolen was an idea for a game genre, that already exists and prospers, that ISNT illegal, lmfao.

---- furthermore, the cease and desist and DMCA was NOT court ordered, or served... nexon served them, meaning ironmace could technically ignore it, but nexon is trying to strongarm ironmace into a corner because they have ALOT more money and could technically hold dark and darker and the ironmace team in legal limbo for years if they wanted too.

nexon is salty they canceled a game, and the devs left and went and decided to make that game, and then when nexon realized they missed out on ALOT of money, they got butthurt and now theyre trying to snuff out the game and the studio. its really that simple, technically no side is wrong currently until actual proof is provided, that being said, ironmace HAS provided proof to authorities that their game, code, engine, assets, etc, was not stolen, they were raided twice, and each time nothing was found.

only time will tell what happens from here.

----- as of right now, the playtest for next month is still going to happen, this was said in the pinned messages by one of the higher ups on their discord--> "as of the moment, we do not have further information than what is alreasy available through the #announcements tab, meaning for now, until further notice, the playtest is still planned"
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this is subject to change at any given moment, and if they cant get it green-lit on steam again due to the legal actions taken against ironmace, then they will likely have to make their own client, or use epic games, etc.

to wrap all of what i just said up, as of now the playtest is still planned (could change literally any minute)-- the cease and desist served to ironmace, was served by nexons lawyers, NOT court ordered, meaning ironmace could quite literally ignore it and proceed with their development, but with the understanding that nexon will likely push any legal action they can muster up into full effect if they ignore their attempts to shut the game down.-- as of now, it seems like its a case of a multi billion company pissed that they cancelled an idea they had that would of made alot of money, and theyre trying to be greedy and not let anyone else cash in on the idea, by snuffing out anyone that tries to publish it.

no true court ordered action has been taken other than the raids and seizures on ironmace, which happened twice, and again, no foul play was found in both raids.

I kinda agree with you but the cease and desist still has some weight to it : its basically a threat of legal action if they dont stop their activity, they sent it to ironmace, not steam and if they didnt do anything wrong and nexon had no legal ground to fight them they wouldn't delist the game...

[FienX]

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

bro lol, steam doesnt care, nexon is a much bigger company than ironmace, of course if nexon comes to steam saying they served ironmace a cease and desist, steam will instantly take it down... theyr quite literally just covering their own ass, lmao, it has nothing to do with steam picking sides on whos right or wrong xD, you must not know how the corporate world works lmfao, the only thing that matters is MONEY, and who currently has the most of it, and who stands to lose the most of it.

no way steam will put themselves in a legal mess if they dont have to, all ironmace has to do is present proof the claims arent true and then it will be green-lit again.

if you knew anything about the case, you would know nexon isnt even suing ironmace for "stealing" assets, like everyone is claiming... the assets in question were purchased from unreal store, and you can literally see them on the unreal store page right now, the mummys, mosquitos, EVEN the dungeon layout and textures, ALL are very LEGAL assets, that you can purchase.

if anything theonly thing that was stolen was an idea for a game genre, that already exists and prospers, that ISNT illegal, lmfao.

---- furthermore, the cease and desist and DMCA was NOT court ordered, or served... nexon served them, meaning ironmace could technically ignore it, but nexon is trying to strongarm ironmace into a corner because they have ALOT more money and could technically hold dark and darker and the ironmace team in legal limbo for years if they wanted too.

nexon is salty they canceled a game, and the devs left and went and decided to make that game, and then when nexon realized they missed out on ALOT of money, they got butthurt and now theyre trying to snuff out the game and the studio. its really that simple, technically no side is wrong currently until actual proof is provided, that being said, ironmace HAS provided proof to authorities that their game, code, engine, assets, etc, was not stolen, they were raided twice, and each time nothing was found.

only time will tell what happens from here.

----- as of right now, the playtest for next month is still going to happen, this was said in the pinned messages by one of the higher ups on their discord--> "as of the moment, we do not have further information than what is alreasy available through the #announcements tab, meaning for now, until further notice, the playtest is still planned"
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this is subject to change at any given moment, and if they cant get it green-lit on steam again due to the legal actions taken against ironmace, then they will likely have to make their own client, or use epic games, etc.

to wrap all of what i just said up, as of now the playtest is still planned (could change literally any minute)-- the cease and desist served to ironmace, was served by nexons lawyers, NOT court ordered, meaning ironmace could quite literally ignore it and proceed with their development, but with the understanding that nexon will likely push any legal action they can muster up into full effect if they ignore their attempts to shut the game down.-- as of now, it seems like its a case of a multi billion company pissed that they cancelled an idea they had that would of made alot of money, and theyre trying to be greedy and not let anyone else cash in on the idea, by snuffing out anyone that tries to publish it.

no true court ordered action has been taken other than the raids and seizures on ironmace, which happened twice, and again, no foul play was found in both raids.

I kinda agree with you but the cease and desist still has some weight to it : its basically a threat of legal action if they dont stop their activity, they sent it to ironmace, not steam and if they didnt do anything wrong and nexon had no legal ground to fight them they wouldn't delist the game...

they would delist the game, they have no reason not to, nexon is a multi billion company, ironmace is not, if a multi billone company went to another multi billion company and said "hey we are going to start a legal battle with this game here over DMCA, you should take it down" steam would do it, its just covering their ass... they stand to lose alot if they keep it up IF something actually happens with this lawsuit, but they stand to lose nothing if they just remove the game until ironmace responds to steam and gets the game green-lit again.

every buisness works this way, theyre just covering every aveneue they can of being somehow invlovlved with any bad PR lawsuit that may come up.

and as i mentioned, the DMCA is not court served, its served by nexon, meaning the only weight it actually has, is essentially a fancy threat saying "if you keep trying to develop this game, we are going to bury you in legal fees so deep you wont be able to breath"

thats literally all it is, nexon has zero legal weight or grounds to stand on right now, hence why they had to serve the DMCA and cease and desist themselves, also why both times ironmace was raided nothing was found, even their phones, and tablets were seized and no foul play was found, ive read about 8-9 different korean articles, and also the korean wiki, and every article corresponds this evidence that ironmace was raided twicem and both times nothing was found, which is exactly why the company wasnt just shut down right then and there..

nexon is literally just trying to snuff out a smaller company that theyre upset theyre not cashing in on, and they know they have the money to financially cripple ironmace, so why wouldnt they do it?

its scummy practice at best, and this entire situation needs to set a precedence that these giant companies shouldnt be allowed to strong arm small companies that have massive potential.

[넓4734]

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

I kinda agree with you but the cease and desist still has some weight to it : its basically a threat of legal action if they dont stop their activity, they sent it to ironmace, not steam and if they didnt do anything wrong and nexon had no legal ground to fight them they wouldn't delist the game...

they would delist the game, they have no reason not to, nexon is a multi billion company, ironmace is not, if a multi billone company went to another multi billion company and said "hey we are going to start a legal battle with this game here over DMCA, you should take it down" steam would do it, its just covering their ass... they stand to lose alot if they keep it up IF something actually happens with this lawsuit, but they stand to lose nothing if they just remove the game until ironmace responds to steam and gets the game green-lit again.

every buisness works this way, theyre just covering every aveneue they can of being somehow invlovlved with any bad PR lawsuit that may come up.

and as i mentioned, the DMCA is not court served, its served by nexon, meaning the only weight it actually has, is essentially a fancy threat saying "if you keep trying to develop this game, we are going to bury you in legal fees so deep you wont be able to breath"

thats literally all it is, nexon has zero legal weight or grounds to stand on right now, hence why they had to serve the DMCA and cease and desist themselves, also why both times ironmace was raided nothing was found, even their phones, and tablets were seized and no foul play was found, ive read about 8-9 different korean articles, and also the korean wiki, and every article corresponds this evidence that ironmace was raided twicem and both times nothing was found, which is exactly why the company wasnt just shut down right then and there..

nexon is literally just trying to snuff out a smaller company that theyre upset theyre not cashing in on, and they know they have the money to financially cripple ironmace, so why wouldnt they do it?

its scummy practice at best, and this entire situation needs to set a precedence that these giant companies shouldnt be allowed to strong arm small companies that have massive potential.

Please don't forget that the fact that the police couldn't find anything is a one-sided claim by Iron Mace.

Don't you think they're going to take their side because they're right, not just because they're a big company?

Reality is not a drama, and public authorities do not unconditionally side with conglomerates.

I think you deserve respect for your love of the game Dark & ​​Darker, but I'd advise you to avoid blind faith in Iron Mace.

[Low_IQ_Huan]

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

I kinda agree with you but the cease and desist still has some weight to it : its basically a threat of legal action if they dont stop their activity, they sent it to ironmace, not steam and if they didnt do anything wrong and nexon had no legal ground to fight them they wouldn't delist the game...

they would delist the game, they have no reason not to, nexon is a multi billion company, ironmace is not, if a multi billone company went to another multi billion company and said "hey we are going to start a legal battle with this game here over DMCA, you should take it down" steam would do it, its just covering their ass... they stand to lose alot if they keep it up IF something actually happens with this lawsuit, but they stand to lose nothing if they just remove the game until ironmace responds to steam and gets the game green-lit again.

every buisness works this way, theyre just covering every aveneue they can of being somehow invlovlved with any bad PR lawsuit that may come up.

and as i mentioned, the DMCA is not court served, its served by nexon, meaning the only weight it actually has, is essentially a fancy threat saying "if you keep trying to develop this game, we are going to bury you in legal fees so deep you wont be able to breath"

thats literally all it is, nexon has zero legal weight or grounds to stand on right now, hence why they had to serve the DMCA and cease and desist themselves, also why both times ironmace was raided nothing was found, even their phones, and tablets were seized and no foul play was found, ive read about 8-9 different korean articles, and also the korean wiki, and every article corresponds this evidence that ironmace was raided twicem and both times nothing was found, which is exactly why the company wasnt just shut down right then and there..

nexon is literally just trying to snuff out a smaller company that theyre upset theyre not cashing in on, and they know they have the money to financially cripple ironmace, so why wouldnt they do it?

its scummy practice at best, and this entire situation needs to set a precedence that these giant companies shouldnt be allowed to strong arm small companies that have massive potential.

I dont really get how its covering their ass, the game wasn't being sold on steam and they weren't the target of the cease and desist..

we dont know if they actually did something wrong yet, from what I know the investigation are still ongoing and of course if they found something they're not gonna come out and say it out loud, they would keep it for the trial anyway, nobody would show their hands before the game even starts. (I'm just saying, we dont know yet, maybe ironmace really did nothing wrong but presuming that they didnt at this point is kind of a stretch. ) ppl were saying it would never get delisted before because nexon had no legal ground to fight them and it happened anyway, there could definitely be more that we just didn't see...

[BigJ]

I trust the legal system to uphold justice and do what must be done. Either part could be done of ♥♥♥♥ and taking sides just makes the job of both harder. Just watch and wait instead of forcing yourself into every event that happens. I'm sorry to say but the opinion of some internet dwellers matters little.

[FienX]

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

they would delist the game, they have no reason not to, nexon is a multi billion company, ironmace is not, if a multi billone company went to another multi billion company and said "hey we are going to start a legal battle with this game here over DMCA, you should take it down" steam would do it, its just covering their ass... they stand to lose alot if they keep it up IF something actually happens with this lawsuit, but they stand to lose nothing if they just remove the game until ironmace responds to steam and gets the game green-lit again.

every buisness works this way, theyre just covering every aveneue they can of being somehow invlovlved with any bad PR lawsuit that may come up.

and as i mentioned, the DMCA is not court served, its served by nexon, meaning the only weight it actually has, is essentially a fancy threat saying "if you keep trying to develop this game, we are going to bury you in legal fees so deep you wont be able to breath"

thats literally all it is, nexon has zero legal weight or grounds to stand on right now, hence why they had to serve the DMCA and cease and desist themselves, also why both times ironmace was raided nothing was found, even their phones, and tablets were seized and no foul play was found, ive read about 8-9 different korean articles, and also the korean wiki, and every article corresponds this evidence that ironmace was raided twicem and both times nothing was found, which is exactly why the company wasnt just shut down right then and there..

nexon is literally just trying to snuff out a smaller company that theyre upset theyre not cashing in on, and they know they have the money to financially cripple ironmace, so why wouldnt they do it?

its scummy practice at best, and this entire situation needs to set a precedence that these giant companies shouldnt be allowed to strong arm small companies that have massive potential.

I dont really get how its covering their ass, the game wasn't being sold on steam and they weren't the target of the cease and desist..

we dont know if they actually did something wrong yet, from what I know the investigation are still ongoing and of course if they found something they're not gonna come out and say it out loud, they would keep it for the trial anyway, nobody would show their hands before the game even starts. (I'm just saying, we dont know yet, maybe ironmace really did nothing wrong but presuming that they didnt at this point is kind of a stretch. ) ppl were saying it would never get delisted before because nexon had no legal ground to fight them and it happened anyway, there could definitely be more that we just didn't see...

dude youre really overestimating the value of a game being on or off steam lol, its not hard at all to get a game green-lit on steam, and vice versa, taken off of steam. look at all the hot garbage thats been green-lit on this client, theres literally a 200$ game that lasts like 5 minutes, and that was green-lit, lmfao steam does not care about what they put on this client as long as it doesnt garner any legal action or issues, the SECOND a legal action is mentioned, it is the smartest thing to cut any ties with the issue immediatly until you get the bigger picture.

it doesnt matter that it wasnt being "sold" it was still on their client, meaning they approved of it, its the same thing like that justin roiland situation, the man was accused of ♥♥♥♥, adult swim and squanch games dropped him instantly like a sack of potatos, fast forward a month later, all charges against him were dropped.... see what i mean??

it does NOT matter whether they do or dont have proof or legit information at all, once they caught wind a big game on their client that has alot of hype around it is in legal action, they removed it. in the buisness world its the best action you could take if you dont want any legal repercussions or bad PR fallback.

just because dark on darker was removed from steam, does not at all give any sort of weight to any claims nexon has made lol, not one bit.

[Low_IQ_Huan]

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

I dont really get how its covering their ass, the game wasn't being sold on steam and they weren't the target of the cease and desist..

we dont know if they actually did something wrong yet, from what I know the investigation are still ongoing and of course if they found something they're not gonna come out and say it out loud, they would keep it for the trial anyway, nobody would show their hands before the game even starts. (I'm just saying, we dont know yet, maybe ironmace really did nothing wrong but presuming that they didnt at this point is kind of a stretch. ) ppl were saying it would never get delisted before because nexon had no legal ground to fight them and it happened anyway, there could definitely be more that we just didn't see...

dude youre really overestimating the value of a game being on or off steam lol, its not hard at all to get a game green-lit on steam, and vice versa, taken off of steam. look at all the hot garbage thats been green-lit on this client, theres literally a 200$ game that lasts like 5 minutes, and that was green-lit, lmfao steam does not care about what they put on this client as long as it doesnt garner any legal action or issues, the SECOND a legal action is mentioned, it is the smartest thing to cut any ties with the issue immediatly until you get the bigger picture.

it doesnt matter that it wasnt being "sold" it was still on their client, meaning they approved of it, its the same thing like that justin roiland situation, the man was accused of ♥♥♥♥, adult swim and squanch games dropped him instantly like a sack of potatos, fast forward a month later, all charges against him were dropped.... see what i mean??

it does NOT matter whether they have proof or legit information at all, once they caught wind a big game on their client that has alot of hype around it is in legal action, they removed it. in the buisness world its the best action you could take if you dont want any legal repercussions or bad PR fallback.

just because dark on darker was removed from steam, does not at all give any sort of weight to any claims nexon has made lol, not one bit.

I get what you're saying, I'm just saying that people claiming out of their arse that ironmace did nothing wrong are clueless, they have no idea what's really going on behind the scene, most of them are just coping really hard

[FienX]

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

dude youre really overestimating the value of a game being on or off steam lol, its not hard at all to get a game green-lit on steam, and vice versa, taken off of steam. look at all the hot garbage thats been green-lit on this client, theres literally a 200$ game that lasts like 5 minutes, and that was green-lit, lmfao steam does not care about what they put on this client as long as it doesnt garner any legal action or issues, the SECOND a legal action is mentioned, it is the smartest thing to cut any ties with the issue immediatly until you get the bigger picture.

it doesnt matter that it wasnt being "sold" it was still on their client, meaning they approved of it, its the same thing like that justin roiland situation, the man was accused of ♥♥♥♥, adult swim and squanch games dropped him instantly like a sack of potatos, fast forward a month later, all charges against him were dropped.... see what i mean??

it does NOT matter whether they have proof or legit information at all, once they caught wind a big game on their client that has alot of hype around it is in legal action, they removed it. in the buisness world its the best action you could take if you dont want any legal repercussions or bad PR fallback.

just because dark on darker was removed from steam, does not at all give any sort of weight to any claims nexon has made lol, not one bit.

I get what you're saying, I'm just saying that people claiming out of their arse that ironmace did nothing wrong are clueless, they have no idea what's really going on behind the scene, most of them are just coping really hard

no one is coping besides the poeople like yourself going around projecting the fact that youre the one coping lol.

when all is said and done and all cards are laid on the table from every piece of available information, youre entirely incorrect, nexon is 100% the bad guy here, and ironmace has proved at least two times, to AUTHORITIES, not internet warriors like yourself, that they possess ZERO illegal assets or code, or design, or trade secrets, or anything for that matter... they were literally raided, two times, that is PUBLIC information dude lmfao.

clearly there are things that happen behind the scenes, but as of RIGHT NOW, yes nexon are in the wrong, they have no actual legal stance for a lawsuit, they are literally only trying to threaten and scare a small company that has proven every chance theyve gotten to, that they havent stolen anything.

if you disagree with the FACTS that are public information, then youre the one thats coping, and delusional budd.

have a good day, think about that for a moment and reflect on how stupid most of yall sound.

[Low_IQ_Huan]

Originally posted by Kick.com/fienx:

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

I get what you're saying, I'm just saying that people claiming out of their arse that ironmace did nothing wrong are clueless, they have no idea what's really going on behind the scene, most of them are just coping really hard

no one is coping besides the poeople like yourself going around projecting the fact that youre the one coping lol.

when all is said and done and all cards are laid on the table from every piece of available information, youre entirely incorrect, nexon is 100% the bad guy here, and ironmace has proved at least two times, to AUTHORITIES, not internet warriors like yourself, that they possess ZERO illegal assets or code, or design, or trade secrets, or anything for that matter... they were literally raided, two times, that is PUBLIC information dude lmfao.

clearly there are things that happen behind the scenes, but as of RIGHT NOW, yes nexon are in the wrong, they have no actual legal stance for a lawsuit, they are literally only trying to threaten and scare a small company that has proven every chance theyve gotten to, that they havent stolen anything.

if you disagree with the FACTS that are public information, then youre the one thats coping, and delusional budd.

have a good day, think about that for a moment and reflect on how stupid most of yall sound.

says the guy only using information disclosed by ironmace lmao none of it is coming from the actual authorities, you read what could be a lie from ironmace and automatically assume they are telling the truth, NONE OF IT WAS CONFIRMED BY THE AUTHORITIES

I'm not coping I'm just trying to stay realistic, until everything is settled you can't know who's wrong.

Obviously you,re one of the guys coping a little too hard

[Geralt]

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

I for one think its pretty funny to see the game being delisted after all the copium addict were claiming it would never happen

That's what happens when armchair lawyers think they know more than real lawyers.

If you think you can do a job and you're not being paid for it, you probably can't do the job.

[Jaggervice]

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

says the guy only using information disclosed by ironmace lmao none of it is coming from the actual authorities, you read what could be a lie from ironmace and automatically assume they are telling the truth, NONE OF IT WAS CONFIRMED BY THE AUTHORITIES

I'm not coping I'm just trying to stay realistic, until everything is settled you can't know who's wrong.

Obviously you,re one of the guys coping a little too hard

If something was found at Ironmace, the situation would already be quite a bit different. Pretty much what Kick said is right. The cease and desist is a letter from nexon, or their lawyer, and carry's no legal weight yet. So Ironmace can entirely ignore it if they wanted. As for the game getting taken from steam, it's hardly different than a copyright strike on Youtube. Literally anyone can copyright strike you and then you have to show proof they are wrong.

https://steamcommunity.com/dmca/create/ - Literally anyone can attempt this on steam.

A big company trying to pressure the little guy is nothing new, and Nexon can make the claims and doesn't need to be right at all to go ahead with all this. Ironmace will have to prove them wrong, but they have to be able to withstand the pressure.

Could Ironmace be lying, could they have done something wrong? Perhaps. But very unlikely given their efforts and Nexons actions and failures so far. Seems like the typical situation of big company trying to flex and push down the little guy. And we all know why.

[Terminal Velocity]

I dont, I really hope they will be forced to shut down and cancel the game if it gets proven in court they stole their IP.

[Terminal Velocity]

Originally posted by Paul isn't pertinent:

I for one think its pretty funny to see the game being delisted after all the copium addict were claiming it would never happen

Absolutely true, game is delisted.

[Bert Bertsson]

Counter question, why are you so fond of Nexon?

Their copyrights hold no water, they pretty much just copyrighted the name of the game, and tried to copyright the names of the classes. It's actually quite laughable.

They're just salty that no one will buy their planned MapleStory NFT's, and are trying to claw at the success of Ironmace.