Dark and Darker

Dark and Darker

MoneyRat Aug 24, 2023 @ 6:15pm
Did the game got removed from steam?
I was not able to find it in the steam store anymore... Any news???
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Esper-ame Aug 24, 2023 @ 6:33pm 
The game launched into Early Access a few weeks ago and will have a item/level wipe this monday. No news on when it will return to Steam.

You can buy and play the game now through the official website dark and darker . com for 35$
MoneyRat Aug 25, 2023 @ 6:59am 
Awww... any information why it wass removed?
sklurb Aug 25, 2023 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by TTV-Monnerat:
Awww... any information why it wass removed?

Impending Nexon lawsuit resulted in DMCA takedown until resolution.

Nexon claims they stole assets.
Dark and Darker devs say that this claim twists the truth.
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Suit will likely last a VERY long time and will not see the light of day on Steam unless the suit is resolved in a way that allows it to be reinstated on the Steam store. Right now, there are a ton of people playing by purchasing the game from the Dark and Darker official site (now launched into Early Access).

It's likely that since the original launch of the game is on their own client/servers with a bulk of their supporting players, it could remain the primary community source to play with (since they officially "don't know" if they can integrate people who wait for the game to launch on Steam with the current community of PC players. They have stated that they will do everything they can to do so, however, other games that tried to retrofit a Steam account with pre-existing non-Steam accounts haven't been very successful (Albion Online, Guild Wars 2, etc).

If prospective players are concerned that the game could get decommissioned due to the lawsuit, history has shown that technically gifted community members tend to create private servers for games this popular, although this tends to be a (legally) gray area.

IMO, if it's an issue of using models or skins that are similar to what Nexon claims that it owns, replacements could be made as part of satisfying the suit, although likely Nexon will pursue damages and/or coverage of their legal costs.
Last edited by sklurb; Aug 25, 2023 @ 8:20am
Eternal Pilgrim Aug 25, 2023 @ 10:05am 
Bruh ur late like few months...
MoneyRat Aug 25, 2023 @ 10:06am 
Originally posted by sklurb:
Originally posted by TTV-Monnerat:
Awww... any information why it wass removed?

Impending Nexon lawsuit resulted in DMCA takedown until resolution.

Nexon claims they stole assets.
Dark and Darker devs say that this claim twists the truth.
_____________________________
Suit will likely last a VERY long time and will not see the light of day on Steam unless the suit is resolved in a way that allows it to be reinstated on the Steam store. Right now, there are a ton of people playing by purchasing the game from the Dark and Darker official site (now launched into Early Access).

It's likely that since the original launch of the game is on their own client/servers with a bulk of their supporting players, it could remain the primary community source to play with (since they officially "don't know" if they can integrate people who wait for the game to launch on Steam with the current community of PC players. They have stated that they will do everything they can to do so, however, other games that tried to retrofit a Steam account with pre-existing non-Steam accounts haven't been very successful (Albion Online, Guild Wars 2, etc).

If prospective players are concerned that the game could get decommissioned due to the lawsuit, history has shown that technically gifted community members tend to create private servers for games this popular, although this tends to be a (legally) gray area.

IMO, if it's an issue of using models or skins that are similar to what Nexon claims that it owns, replacements could be made as part of satisfying the suit, although likely Nexon will pursue damages and/or coverage of their legal costs.

Thanks for the info, yes that's sad, the game is promising, i enjoyed the tests...
Esper-ame Aug 25, 2023 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by TTV-Monnerat:
Thanks for the info, yes that's sad, the game is promising, i enjoyed the tests...
Then play it?
MoneyRat Aug 25, 2023 @ 11:05am 
35 dollars is big bucks for brazilian guys... its like 5x our currency here... go on, mock me, but yes, its not a "cheap" game for us
Esper-ame Aug 25, 2023 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by TTV-Monnerat:
35 dollars is big bucks for brazilian guys... its like 5x our currency here... go on, mock me, but yes, its not a "cheap" game for us
Nah I understand. People in the community are pushing for F2P options but I doubt it will be here till after Early Access if at all. I think the game can fit in F2P personally. But for now the price tag does keep the hackers out. What's your price limit on steam games btw?
MoneyRat Aug 25, 2023 @ 12:36pm 
50 USD to "triple A games" like Baldurs Gate 3, about 20 USD for "kinda indie" and all the good games that i find for a buck or 2, i also buy hehehehe... I've bough Mount And Blade Warband for 2 bucks if i recall correctly... Not dissappointed... but the new Mount and Blade released with the price of a triple A and now ill have to wait hehe
TIO PEPINO Aug 25, 2023 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by Esper-ame:
Originally posted by TTV-Monnerat:
35 dollars is big bucks for brazilian guys... its like 5x our currency here... go on, mock me, but yes, its not a "cheap" game for us
Nah I understand. People in the community are pushing for F2P options but I doubt it will be here till after Early Access if at all. I think the game can fit in F2P personally. But for now the price tag does keep the hackers out. What's your price limit on steam games btw?
Acá en argentina es 750 veces más la moneda, imagínate comprar este juego lo que seria
Esper-ame Aug 25, 2023 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by TIO PEPINO:
Originally posted by Esper-ame:
Nah I understand. People in the community are pushing for F2P options but I doubt it will be here till after Early Access if at all. I think the game can fit in F2P personally. But for now the price tag does keep the hackers out. What's your price limit on steam games btw?
Acá en argentina es 750 veces más la moneda, imagínate comprar este juego lo que seria
Es genial que los indies sean superiores en precio y jugabilidad. I'm sorry for your wallet -_-

Originally posted by TTV-Monnerat:
50 USD to "triple A games" like Baldurs Gate 3, about 20 USD for "kinda indie" and all the good games that i find for a buck or 2, i also buy hehehehe... I've bough Mount And Blade Warband for 2 bucks if i recall correctly... Not dissappointed... but the new Mount and Blade released with the price of a triple A and now ill have to wait hehe
I didn't think you would say you buy ANY AAA with the 50-70 pricetag. I usually only buy <$20 as well and i always have something to play. I'm just a bit of a fanboy for Dark and Darker. If I hadn't tried the playtests for free I would probably be waiting on it, which may be the right choice. The devs are trying to get back on their feet after all this legal trouble and roadblocks it seems, things are a little uncertain, its hard to tell.
MoneyRat Aug 26, 2023 @ 8:40am 
I tottally agree with you that the indie games usually are superior in price and playability, but when i say i would pay 50 USD for a triple A game, i meant that it usually does not goes below that, and if i really enjoy the game, i know that would be the usual price for it... while i know some indie companies lower their price tags more often and it would be "money-wise" to wait for some kind of sales... and some games we have to really wait until steam makes a -98% sale or something like that and grab maybe 5 to 7 years later... :/
Khremesi Aug 27, 2023 @ 7:59am 
All because 5-10% of their sales are "scams" from VPN kids that want to pay few $ less kekw.
Greedy (Talking about gaming industry in general)
HALO_run Aug 28, 2023 @ 10:01pm 
Originally posted by Esper-ame:
Originally posted by TTV-Monnerat:
Thanks for the info, yes that's sad, the game is promising, i enjoyed the tests...
Then play it?
if it's not on steam i wouldn't, given this fishy mess
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