Rogue are overpowered in Goblin Caves

[MichaelTheOdd]

Rogues absolutely destroy in Goblin Caves simply because their kit is overpowered for this map.

Tips:

1. Pull and hide
- pull tons of mobs when someone is nearby then go near them and go invisible, all those mobs are going to target the enemy player/players instantly and then u can even through knives to support the mobs

2. Go for all 1 vs 1 against every fighter/barbarian that has a 2 handed weapon or mace. The attack speed are so slow for these weapons u can just taunt attacks and hit 2-3 poison knives attacks then back away and repeat. I have yet to lose a 1 v 1 fight against a barbarian just because i can hit and run away faster than the attacks animation.

3. You can kill the centre of the goblin cave by yourself in under 1 minute if you pull all mobs and just kite them through the traps

4. Never fight spear players because you will get REKT if they know what they are doing

5. Always take advantage of no fall damage and stay on the top level of the goblin caves, so you can jump people like archers, wizards and absolutely destroy them

6. If you want to gank someone, leave random valuable treasure in corner spots so if they go for the loot you come for the backstab from the shadows and force them into panic attacking. You must expect a fighter or barbarian to instantly attack and after getting a few hits in just retreat for the attack dodge and go back in for the finish

[nowhere man]

1 - This is very inneffective and hard to do. It's gonna be rare for an oportunity like that to present itself for you to think this is a legitimate strategy to do all the time.

2 - Good barbs and fighters always bring a single handed weapon do deal with rogues. There are even some 2handed that are fast enough to deal with rogues anyways, like the qurterstaff.

3- all classes can do that.

4 - Is that a reason rogues are overpowered?

5- all classes benefit from no fall damage, this is not only a rogue thing.

6- Experienced players wont panic when jumped by a rogue, they will calmly just destroy you. That tactic of leaving treasure on the ground for stealth attack might work against squishy and new people only.

All in all i disagree with what you said and quite the contrary, i think rogues need a buff. They only get fair when fully geared.

[Alendert]

It will work only vs players in starting gear that don't know how to play. Sorry but true.

[MichaelTheOdd]

Originally posted by Alendert:

It will work only vs players in starting gear that don't know how to play. Sorry but true.

Not true, this is advice against high level geared players also. Especially easier to fight fighters and barbarians with high level armors. They are too slow. Sorry m8.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by MichaelTheOdd:

Originally posted by Alendert:

It will work only vs players in starting gear that don't know how to play. Sorry but true.

Not true, this is advice against high level geared players also. Especially easier to fight fighters and barbarians with high level armors. They are too slow. Sorry m8.

I dont know what kind of fighters and barbs are you fighting against. But probably not the good ones. Even I, who can be considered a sub-par pvper, can swap to a one handed to smack rogues. I tried beating geared experience barbs and fighters with my rogue and way more often than not I get rekt. Same as when i'm on my barb, swap to single hand, hit em a few times and done. OF course that if you get in a fight with a rogue while you have like 10hp and no heals left, you'll probably die, but that's not gonna be because the rogue is OP.

[MichaelTheOdd]

Originally posted by nowhere man:

1 - This is very inneffective and hard to do. It's gonna be rare for an oportunity like that to present itself for you to think this is a legitimate strategy to do all the time.

2 - Good barbs and fighters always bring a single handed weapon do deal with rogues. There are even some 2handed that are fast enough to deal with rogues anyways, like the qurterstaff.

3- all classes can do that.

4 - Is that a reason rogues are overpowered?

5- all classes benefit from no fall damage, this is not only a rogue thing.

6- Experienced players wont panic when jumped by a rogue, they will calmly just destroy you. That tactic of leaving treasure on the ground for stealth attack might work against squishy and new people only.

All in all i disagree with what you said and quite the contrary, i think rogues need a buff. They only get fair when fully geared.

1. Incorrect, easy to do, skill issue.
2. Nope, they dont always bring secondary, it is actually rare in goblin caves, persoanlly never encountered something like that in over 50 goblin cave runs
3. rogues do best cause they fast
4. it's a tip, read m8
5. it's a tip, read m8
6. 4 hits and i put you under half hp with a decent weapon that i can buy under 150g by trading

stop the h8 m8

[MichaelTheOdd]

Originally posted by nowhere man:

Originally posted by MichaelTheOdd:

Not true, this is advice against high level geared players also. Especially easier to fight fighters and barbarians with high level armors. They are too slow. Sorry m8.

I dont know what kind of fighters and barbs are you fighting against. But probably not the good ones. Even I, who can be considered a sub-par pvper, can swap to a one handed to smack rogues. I tried beating geared experience barbs and fighters with my rogue and way more often than not I get rekt. Same as when i'm on my barb, swap to single hand, hit em a few times and done. OF course that if you get in a fight with a rogue while you have like 10hp and no heals left, you'll probably die, but that's not gonna be because the rogue is OP.

If they have a fast 1 handed weapon i just wont fight and they will never catch me, skil issue

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by MichaelTheOdd:

Originally posted by nowhere man:

1 - This is very inneffective and hard to do. It's gonna be rare for an oportunity like that to present itself for you to think this is a legitimate strategy to do all the time.

2 - Good barbs and fighters always bring a single handed weapon do deal with rogues. There are even some 2handed that are fast enough to deal with rogues anyways, like the qurterstaff.

3- all classes can do that.

4 - Is that a reason rogues are overpowered?

5- all classes benefit from no fall damage, this is not only a rogue thing.

6- Experienced players wont panic when jumped by a rogue, they will calmly just destroy you. That tactic of leaving treasure on the ground for stealth attack might work against squishy and new people only.

All in all i disagree with what you said and quite the contrary, i think rogues need a buff. They only get fair when fully geared.

1. Incorrect, easy to do, skill issue.
2. Nope, they dont always bring secondary, it is actually rare in goblin caves, persoanlly never encountered something like that in over 50 goblin cave runs
3. rogues do best cause they fast
4. it's a tip, read m8
5. it's a tip, read m8
6. 4 hits and i put you under half hp with a decent weapon that i can buy under 150g by trading

stop the h8 m8

I was trying to be kind with your funny post. But instead you took it as an insult and reacted in a toxic way, dont know why.

I was just trying to be nice and not to tell you that your post is nothing but a complete and utter salad of nonsense coming from somene who didnt play enough.

You can have your opinion, even if it is pathetic. We respect it as long as you remain humble, which you didnt.

Again, you're clueless and your topics are absolutely nonsensical and easy to prove wrong as I just did.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by Fatsquatch:

As a barb in goblin caves, I have to say rogues are not OP at all lol

Watch out, he will say that you are a hater.

[MichaelTheOdd]

Originally posted by nowhere man:

Originally posted by MichaelTheOdd:

1. Incorrect, easy to do, skill issue.
2. Nope, they dont always bring secondary, it is actually rare in goblin caves, persoanlly never encountered something like that in over 50 goblin cave runs
3. rogues do best cause they fast
4. it's a tip, read m8
5. it's a tip, read m8
6. 4 hits and i put you under half hp with a decent weapon that i can buy under 150g by trading

stop the h8 m8

I was trying to be kind with your funny post. But instead you took it as an insult and reacted in a toxic way, dont know why.

I was just trying to be nice and not to tell you that your post is nothing but a complete and utter salad of nonsense coming from someone who didnt play enough.

You can have your opinion, even if it is pathetic. We respect it as long as you remain humble, which you didnt.

Again, you're clueless and your topics are absolutely nonsensical and easy to prove wrong as I just did.

Incorrect, I am just explaining that, YOU, have no idea what you are talking about, and you and a lot of other players are playing subpar Rogue because you have serious skill issues, and it is you who got hurt because I pointed that. Just get better at rouge. You cannot touch a decent skilled rogue. It is just a harder class and I get it. Not everyone can play, that's why I gave tips on what you should work on.
Your argument is I didn't encounter good players. Good one, good one.

[TeaLeaf]

Rouges are fine, they have the worst starting kit and require timing or a quite play style. Barbs can 1 shot, if a fighter gets progressively better with gear, and wizards... let me tell you a good wizard is the scariest thing you can face. Rangers as well see a lot of use due to their kit being so good.

[MustardTiger]

Fighting a rogue as a barbarian is easy dude you can just take the stabs and stand there swinging, a couple headshots they're dead. Wizards and rangers are what we have to worry about lol.

[MichaelTheOdd]

Originally posted by Fatsquatch:

Fighting a rogue as a barbarian is easy dude you can just take the stabs and stand there swinging, a couple headshots they're dead. Wizards and rangers are what we have to worry about lol.

That is why I dont just stab, i stab and dodge your attacks, by the time you start your swing I can dodge before you finish the animation. Too slow, even with some one handed weapons, and I just let poison do the work. Impossible to catch.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by MichaelTheOdd:

Originally posted by nowhere man:

I was trying to be kind with your funny post. But instead you took it as an insult and reacted in a toxic way, dont know why.

I was just trying to be nice and not to tell you that your post is nothing but a complete and utter salad of nonsense coming from someone who didnt play enough.

You can have your opinion, even if it is pathetic. We respect it as long as you remain humble, which you didnt.

Again, you're clueless and your topics are absolutely nonsensical and easy to prove wrong as I just did.

Incorrect, I am just explaining that, YOU, have no idea what you are talking about, and you and a lot of other players are playing subpar Rogue because you have serious skill issues, and it is you who got hurt because I pointed that. Just get better at rouge. You cannot touch a decent skilled rogue. It is just a harder class and I get it. Not everyone can play, that's why I gave tips on what you should work on.
Your argument is I didn't encounter good players. Good one, good one.

You said that was being a hater and I just explained to you how wrong were you. Just forget about this idea that rogues are OP in caves, I explained to you why they aren´t, It is just a matter of time for even more people to show up here and tell you how you are wrong. Are you just going to call them haters too?

[MustardTiger]

Michael I have no-lifed goblin caves as a barbarian and I'm telling you rogues are super easy to kill compared to rangers or non-stupid wizards.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by MichaelTheOdd:

Originally posted by Fatsquatch:

Fighting a rogue as a barbarian is easy dude you can just take the stabs and stand there swinging, a couple headshots they're dead. Wizards and rangers are what we have to worry about lol.

That is why I dont just stab, i stab and dodge your attacks, by the time you start your swing I can dodge before you finish the animation. Too slow, even with some one handed weapons, and I just let poison do the work. Impossible to catch.

You're fighting bad players, believe me. You can´t stab and dodge if they are using one handed weapons. New and poor player barbs will just have one slow 2handed axe and you can cheese them. That's all, this has nothing to do with rogues being OP. The sooner you forget about it, the less frustrating it will be for you.