Will you balance Goblin cave in the next playtest? My thoughts as a new player

[MN]

1. Mobs are too strong (goblins/bees/skeletons). One hit takes 1/3 hp bar. I have to use 3/4 bandages to heal myself. That's instant -20 gold. For new players it's hard to leave spawn. Meanwhile we will lose more hp.
2. Loot is too bad. I found only 1 purple item in a week of playing, not sure if it was from player or mobs
3. Mobs got really bad items, chests and barrels are only worth to loot. But you need to kill annoying mobs first, lose hp or die, for grey items... Killing mobs should be more enjoyable.
4. Theres not enough meds. Only bats drops bandages. We can find one potion that heals 20hp, not enough to heal from one goblin hit
5. For a low equipment runs (only meds) I have to spent ~50 gold. Max I earned was ~220. It's 4 low eq runs. Average extract ~70-100 gold. And the extract is like 1 out of 10/20 games (for a low experienced players)

At the moment high risk = low reward. That's why theres 3-5k people on the trade, they will earn more gold there by flipping than from playing.

[Pizzashot]

- Spawnpoints of mobs are too dense, that is one spawnpoint where you move out to fight and then immediately gets pushed back in to your spawn because 3 Goblins rush you. Goblins are also way worse than slow skeletons and zombies, Goblins are FAST and it is literally the only enemy you fight in the cave, with a few exceptions. Dense mobs are also on the normal map but those enemies are SLOW, you can fight 100 mummies with ease because they are no threat, at all, 100 goblins would just be a mess with goblins everywhere.

- Spawnpoints of Players are too close, You can literally open your starting door at one place and see another player that wants to kill you, good luck attacking a ton of Goblins + whatever you run through in pvp and the player without it being a mess.

- The map is too small for 11 players, it is more of a pvp map than a pve map, for a mode that is supposed to be for solo players. The normal map is way more fun to play solo because you get to explore and pve before most players cross your path.

- Goblin Cave needs be bigger and have more loot rooms, more shrines, a better diversity of enemies that drop different things, less fast goblins packed that rush your position and much more. I see no enjoyment in fighting boring goblins and the normal map got way more interesting enemies.

[MN]

引用自 alan0n：

Basically all your complaints are fixed by getting better. There is no need for them to make it easier and ruin it for those of us that can already succeed.

Im not 15 yo. I dont have time to grind this game 10 hours per day like you or other kids. Everytime I join goblin cave I see 5 people dying instantly. Thats not normal. I know mobs patterns and still its easy to get hit few times. I posted facts but your answers are giga stupid "get gud lol". Stop being ignorant because im not sure if you trolling or just stupid.

[ZooL]

I usually don't say this because it is kinda rude, but OPs whole post is the definition of skill issue. Goblin Cave is way to easy for what you get. people are already farming it to gear up for the castle, which is already affecting the balance on that map. if all, they should tone down loot you get from the goblin cave.

[ZooL]

引用自 MN：

引用自 alan0n：

Basically all your complaints are fixed by getting better. There is no need for them to make it easier and ruin it for those of us that can already succeed.

Im not 15 yo. I dont have time to grind this game 10 hours per day like you or other kids. Everytime I join goblin cave I see 5 people dying instantly. Thats not normal. I know mobs patterns and still its easy to get hit few times. I posted facts but your answers are giga stupid "get gud lol". Stop being ignorant because im not sure if you trolling or just stupid.

the game is just not for you. i only play 1-2 h after work, sometimes solo, sometimes with 2 friends and my inventory is stacked with greens, blues and some purple on 3 different chars.

[alan0n]

引用自 MN：

引用自 alan0n：

Basically all your complaints are fixed by getting better. There is no need for them to make it easier and ruin it for those of us that can already succeed.

Im not 15 yo. I dont have time to grind this game 10 hours per day like you or other kids. Everytime I join goblin cave I see 5 people dying instantly. Thats not normal. I know mobs patterns and still its easy to get hit few times. I posted facts but your answers are giga stupid "get gud lol". Stop being ignorant because im not sure if you trolling or just stupid.

If your not 15 then act like someone thats older than 15. Own your failures. Improve your skills. Thats how you should win, not by crying for nerfs.

[Souren Araya]

The mobs aren't that hard. Them hitting hard will teach you to just not get hit. but yeah the loot needs to be a bit better, specifically for the cave troll.

[Xey]

Didnt they already tell that the maps available right now is on the harder side, there will be easier dungeons for new players Dont worry

[Collateral damage]

My problem with this map is that there's too many mobs and the space is too narrow. I find it weird that a map designed for solo has higher mob density than map designed for trios.
Another problem is AI. I can't tell if it's easily exploitable or just bugged as hell, but every 2nd game there is a barbarian running around with a dozen mobs on their tail, and when he comes to attack you mobs switch to you and completely ignore him. And that's when barbarian is positioned between you and mobs. They just ignore barbarian completely and switch to next target. I think it has something to do with noise level one makes and these guys running around naked let's them exploit AI, effectively adding them to the party.

[sukkamehutiiviste]

Just for the record: goblin dungeon is not a "beginner dungeon". Its just a solo one.

[Amigo500]

my biggest issue is the rubberbanding i got hit because of this not skill issues

[Amigo500]

and the spider and bats are annoying they glitch all the time

[Jesus]

Goblin caves was already rebalanced it's not that hard. New players can run the main dungeon instead of solo dungeon, they don't have to play the solo map, the mobs in castle are a bit more forgiving. Forest map is probably coming next playtest.

[Smithdog]

Sounds like a you problem. As Ghandi once said, ''Git gud scrub''

[Amigo500]

引用自 Smithdog：

Sounds like a you problem. As Ghandi once said, ''Git gud scrub''

mahatma pech mahatma ghandi

[Gregxcore]

Honestly for a solo dungeon that i only use for gold farming, i thinks its fine the way it is. You shouldn't be getting amazing loot from goblin caves