Gear score for goblin caves, thoughts?

[Mac]

To many players go juicer levels of insane with their gear into the goblin caves, a mode really designed for new players, surely, its why you added in a solo play map to begin with, right?

The moment i see a heavily geared barb or fighter perhaps, i just know its pointless fighting, they can 2 shot me, perhaps 2 handers just needs a nerf who knows, but still - they just run after me until i get cornered and i die and can do nothing about it because i'm in starter gear, trying to farm alittle currency.

Far to many streamers are also abusing this fact of the goblin cave, going in and free farming players, they are in gear clearly designed for the other maps, and they are what, maybe to scared to do so? gear fear is a thing afterall im not blaming them for this strat - they are also using this strat to free farm currency, not just player kills.

This honestly needs to be addressed in some way, i'm not sure how but gear score seems like a logical step.

It's alpha, no worries, just a current concern im facing for the future of this map, and im sure a lot of other players share this concern.

The only person i've seen go into the goblin caves with powerful weapons and i approve, is Sequisha, but hes not there to farm players or collect stuff, hes after the troll boss, and i love that sort of mindset, if you're in better gear, go do the troll boss or something, don't chase me down and get literally nothing from my corpse, whats wrong with you lol.

[nowhere man]

I agree about doing something of the sorts. Unlike Sequisha, who 95% of the time will not attack lowbies in the caves, most of the high roller capable idiots prefer bullying low level beginners to have an actual fair shot against similar players.

[Mac]

Originally posted by nowhere man:

I agree about doing something of the sorts. Unlike Sequisha, who 95% of the time will not attack lowbies in the caves, most of the high roller capable idiots prefer bullying low level beginners to have an actual fair shot against similar players.

Yeah im not really sure how it can be addressed, but gear score was the only thing i could really use for the context of explanation, you know?

I'm sure this will be addressed at some point in the future, but currently, its making the goblin caves tedious, keep reloading in until i find a match where i don't run into a player with over the top gear lol.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by Mac:

Originally posted by nowhere man:

I agree about doing something of the sorts. Unlike Sequisha, who 95% of the time will not attack lowbies in the caves, most of the high roller capable idiots prefer bullying low level beginners to have an actual fair shot against similar players.

Yeah im not really sure how it can be addressed, but gear score was the only thing i could really use for the context of explanation, you know?

I'm sure this will be addressed at some point in the future, but currently, its making the goblin caves tedious, keep reloading in until i find a match where i don't run into a player with over the top gear lol.

Yeah the only upside of that is that it is really fast to get a rematch. But if we aren´t in the best of moods, being capable of laughing at every situation you get absolutely destroyed, it will burn you out fast.

[UncleIstvan]

I'm not sure that Goblin Cave is designed for new players, with tougher mobs and stuff.

[tim.]

I think the misconception is that Goblin caves are NOT meant for new players. It's solely meant for people queuing in alone. That's it.

The best answer for this issue is to find other players who are willing to work together to intimidate any players who might want to KOS, or just simply hide as best as you can and not engage when possible.

The devs have talked about not worrying about Solo queue balance at the moment, so they'll likely do something about it by release, i don't suspect it would be a Gear Score based system because intermingling no-gear and high-gear players is part of the design.

[MoonLight_Fay♡]

well i mean it is good if you have gear on your bones but if not its kinda a yikes

[LastTourniquet]

Technically the Goblin Cave isn't really designed for new players. Its designed to be of a similar difficulty to the Normal dungeon. That said I completely agree that there needs to be some forced segregation for players who want to go into dungeons with higher level gear. Its really the biggest pain point of the game rite now besides maybe Ranger cheese.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by UncleIstvan:

I'm not sure that Goblin Cave is designed for new players, with tougher mobs and stuff.

I'll have to agree on that, while it should be. It can be, as long as they're willing to adjust it in countless possible ways without screwing the game.

[Shuppy]

I think a better solution would be high roller solos

[LastTourniquet]

Originally posted by tim.:

don't suspect it would be a Gear Score based system because intermingling no-gear and high-gear players is part of the design.

Yes its part of the design but the disparity of power between no gear and end game gear players is way too high. Its like playing a P2W game against someone who just dropped $500 on the n00bS4y3r 4000 when you just have an empty sack of potatoes for armor.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by Nathund:

I think a better solution would be high roller solos

I think the same type of player we are discussing here would keep playing non-high roller because of their very scummy nature. They want it easier, and since the game allows it , they will keep going.

[LastTourniquet]

Originally posted by Nathund:

I think a better solution would be high roller solos

This isn't good enough. These players would still go into the Normal Goblin Cave just to pug stomp.

[tim.]

Originally posted by Nathund:

I think a better solution would be high roller solos

It would be a solution if the problem was high gear players not having a place to go, but the problem is these high gear players *specifically want* to kill gearless players. They won't go to high rollers because there won't be easy kills there.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by tim.:

Originally posted by Nathund:

I think a better solution would be high roller solos

It would be a solution if the problem was high gear players not having a place to go, but the problem is these high gear players *specifically want* to kill gearless players. They won't go to high rollers because there won't be easy kills there.

That's the point. They want espefically to play the easiest route to make money. Anihilating noobs throughout the goblin cave still earns them consistent cash.

[LOLZ_Ninja]

Are people really going in full geared? I rarely see anything above a green on the people I encounter and I've done solo a pretty good amount