NERF FRANCISCA AXE

[P.E.N.1]

It's not normal to be able to take a full backpack of Francisca axes and throw them at insane speed with almost no speed penalty, this needs to be fixed, either by slowing down the movement speed while holding them, or by lowering the throwing speed per second, or by limiting the number of items you carry with you. . I attach a link to the video, the guy just picks up a bunch of hatchets and spams them endlessly) https://youtu.be/MPKTy4NXGVQ?t=4022

[Arch]

You can't buy them so its kinda tough to get so many

[P.E.N.1]

moment at 1:07:02 I can’t attach here with timecode

[LOLZ_Ninja]

Whoever was playing had full gear and an axe out, so they're inherently slower than a bambi barb. The player dodged most the axes but then pushed into a spot where they couldn't strafe and got punished for it. Don't push into a chokepoint when people lobbing ranged attacks or throw your own axes back at him.

[P.E.N.1]

yes you're right, but he threw 9 axes at high speed, calmly walking away with his back, and there were 9 more axes in reserve))) They could be spammed for a very long time, definitely causing a lot of damage

[P.E.N.1]

the problem is that you can’t know how many axes he still has, it’s impossible to predict, you can read an archer, it’s from 5 to 7 arrows and a maximum of 2 skills that shoot arrows, in the case of these axes, you can just get a full chest at the auction and throw them as much as you like, because they are put into the slot for use instantly, like a potion

[P.E.N.1]

Originally posted by ArchfiendNZ:

You can't buy them so its kinda tough to get so many

you can buy a lot of them, about 10 stacks of 3 pieces

[PorkSocks]

Originally posted by P.E.N.1:

...you can read an archer, it’s from 5 to 7 arrows and a maximum of 2 skills that shoot arrows...

A Ranger can do anywhere from 15 and 21 shots without a reload animation depending on their bow if they have quick shot and multi-shot.

[LastTourniquet]

Watched the clip. It honestly looks like you got out skilled.

1st of all this player had to open their inventory at least once mid fight to equip additional axes. You can see that only 2 of their 3 belt slots are empty but he threw 9.

2nd you had more shield pots that you could have used but chose not to

3rd you saw him spamming axes and decided not to take cover and instead ran at him down a hallway with a choke point in it

4th once you had decided to push through all his axes you should have put your weapon away so you could run faster. He would have had to swap to his big axe anyways to fight you in melee so its not like you would have lost any time doing the same.

[P.E.N.1]

Originally posted by PorkSocks:

Originally posted by P.E.N.1:

...you can read an archer, it’s from 5 to 7 arrows and a maximum of 2 skills that shoot arrows...

A Ranger can do anywhere from 15 and 21 shots without a reload animation depending on their bow if they have quick shot and multi-shot.

yes, that's what I wrote about, that he only has 2 skills, and he either uses or cancels and gets a full quiver, but an archer can't shoot so fast, to be honest, now I bought 30 axes myself and went did the same thing as that guy, just spammed people with axes and then finished off,you can throw an axe out of your backpack mentally and on the run, to be honest, this is a completely broken mechanic

[P.E.N.1]

Originally posted by LastTourniquet:

Watched the clip. It honestly looks like you got out skilled.

1st of all this player had to open their inventory at least once mid fight to equip additional axes. You can see that only 2 of their 3 belt slots are empty but he threw 9.

2nd you had more shield pots that you could have used but chose not to

3rd you saw him spamming axes and decided not to take cover and instead ran at him down a hallway with a choke point in it

4th once you had decided to push through all his axes you should have put your weapon away so you could run faster. He would have had to swap to his big axe anyways to fight you in melee so its not like you would have lost any time doing the same.

yes, it's understandable when you watch the recording, but during the game it's impossible to read that the guy has 20+ axes, not 3-6 maximum, as I wrote above, I bought 30 axes and went to do the same, spam axes, while you are very mobile at this time since the debuff speed is only -10,I'm with easily spammed a couple of players with these axes and finished them off with 1 hit...

[P.E.N.1]

perhaps it would be worthwhile to make the dressing time 1-1.5 seconds standing, so that it would be impossible to put them on the run from a backpack

[StayGold]

Originally posted by LastTourniquet:

Watched the clip. It honestly looks like you got out skilled.

1st of all this player had to open their inventory at least once mid fight to equip additional axes. You can see that only 2 of their 3 belt slots are empty but he threw 9.

2nd you had more shield pots that you could have used but chose not to

3rd you saw him spamming axes and decided not to take cover and instead ran at him down a hallway with a choke point in it

4th once you had decided to push through all his axes you should have put your weapon away so you could run faster. He would have had to swap to his big axe anyways to fight you in melee so its not like you would have lost any time doing the same.

think past 2 more seconds. you run away then what? they chase you with inventory of axes which they brought in because they are so good on the most hp and strongest class with a sprint. there is no 'taking cover' taking cover in this game is called letting your spacing go, the games meta is all about burst damage if one player cannot do that then the other will always have more advantage.

if you 'take cover' behind a corner well now you are stuck and they still have axes, if you run away well while running they can still throw axes at you.

it's purely lose lose situation unless the other player is mediocre/bad.

[Arch]

Whats the difference between axes and arrows or other ranged weapons for that matter - do they hit a lot harder?

[RayRay Jackson]

Take away barb's only ranged option? Must be a ranger player....

[Hells Malice]

I died please delete what killed me thank