Why UE5?

[Bro Bike]

The engine is extremly bad in terms of performances and is yet to be mature enough to make it smooth, todays hardware is not up to the task UE5 is asking for. UE4 would have landed 3x more frames for a game with such low quality graphics.

[DJ ShadowBlade]

UE5 is a power house in the performance race what are you talking about . . . are you using a 15 year old PC?

[Bro Bike]

It is well known in the industry that UE5 is very poorly optimised, maybe you want me to share some articles by professionnals on the engine? It is for now running much better on console hardware. By the way features is not equal to performances.

[Grimmsch]

For a game like this UE4 would have been sufficient so I assume it is mostly marketing and
as a Software Engineer I can understand going directly for UE5. It is just more fun with the new toys. And project startup time is much faster.

If you have big open worlds UE 5.1 is just plain revolutionary with adding nanites to foliage.

[Negatroni]

You do know that you can get the frame rates with both engines. Perhaps even better with ue5 as it supports more optimizing functions. Its just up to the dev to implement them.

[DefectiveByDesign]

UE4 isn't much better, it's completely unusable on low end hardware, and requires RDNA or Pascal generation hardware. The last "efficient" UE was 3. This is just typical software bloat that requires new hardware to use new software with poor backwards compatibility. At this point, I don't consider UE to be an acceptable engine for any low-mid range hardware. People are just gonna have to deal with it or buy games that don't use UE.

[Bro Bike]

The main issue with this engine is the low level pipeline width required.

[Dealman]

As a game developer, it's your responsibility to make sure the game runs good - not that of Unreal or Epic Games.

Poor performance in Unreal is more often than not due to the developer not following the standards recommended by Epic, it's a very opinionated engine - whereas an engine like Unity is not.

And if you assume you're entitled to be able to run games made on a modern hi-tech engine with old hardware, then you are laughably misguided and irrational.

It's not a well known industry fact, it's not even a fact - it's your opinion, which is seemingly based on nothing, really.

Epic does (or at least used to prior to 5.1) advise against using UE5 because it wasn't necessarily considered production ready by them yet. That said, it is definitely good enough for many kinds of games. Dark and Darker doesn't do anything revolutionary that UE5 shouldn't be able to handle.

Basic gameplay features, basic graphics, basic animations. Any poor performance is due to the developers, not Unreal.

Originally posted by Bro Bike:

The main issue with this engine is the low level pipeline width required.

What does this even mean? Are you just trying to use buzzwords you found on Google? Pipeline width?

If you mean pipeline as in workflow, I hate to break it to you - but Unreal has the most established one.

[nowhere man]

This game should be using something lighter indeed. There's no real reason to go ue5 for such a graphically simple game.

[519B.]

UE5 runs amazing what are you smoking, frames hold steady at 144 or 165 even when im streaming in discord to friends
if you thin kthe game is graphically simple look again at how round things are, individual pages fluttering etc

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by Shade:

UE5 runs amazing what are you smoking, frames hold steady at 144 or 165 even when im streaming in discord to friends

Yeah it runs smoothly but nothing ue4 couldnt achieve while allowing even older pc's to run it better and with less technical glitches. The minimum requirements for a game under ue5 to even boot are way steeper than 4.

[Saint Skeleton]

Originally posted by Shade:

UE5 runs amazing what are you smoking, frames hold steady at 144 or 165 even when im streaming in discord to friends
if you thin kthe game is graphically simple look again at how round things are, individual pages fluttering etc

you are an outlier , myself and both my 2 friends all had to drop settings to minimum and we still get some massive stutters occasionally ... and our computers are no slouches

[519B.]

Originally posted by nowhere man:

Originally posted by Shade:

UE5 runs amazing what are you smoking, frames hold steady at 144 or 165 even when im streaming in discord to friends

Yeah it runs smoothly but nothing ue4 couldnt achieve while allowing even older pc's to run it better and with less technical glitches. The minimum requirements for a game under ue5 to even boot are way steeper than 4.

i mean sure but UE5 is where we are going and there is always going to be a transitional period for people when new engines come out, it happened with 3 and 4 this is no different,

[Hussar]

rtx 4090 have no problem all max setting, stable, smooth 120fps in 4k.

[Aldain]

Optimization is something that will come over time, this is an alpha after all, it's honestly impressive that a game in an alpha state is working as well as it does if you look at other playable alphas out there.

[Hells Malice]

Game runs great considering it's an alpha test. Never even a damn stutter.
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