The risks of antisemitism and the issues of the "Goblin Merchant" Dark and Darker

[[SiN]Rabbit]

At a time when that one game with the magic is being rightfully exposed for using Goblins as a stand-in for jewish people and including "goblin" traits like a "horn" which is a near mimic of the jewish Shofar, where that Horn references a "rebellion" that coincides with a pogrom against jewish people, it seems quite terrible to see a "Goblin Merchant"in the "Happy Merchant" antisemitic post.

https://i.imgur.com/o5LRVq8.png | https://i.imgur.com/ekwh7RS.png

https://twitter.com/MusketAnna/status/1624670100535103488 | https://twitter.com/MusketAnna/status/1624681378943041537

Truly, using goblins as a dogwhistle stand-in for jewish people is hardly obscure at this point, but adding antisemitic dogwhistles at the same time is just... far too clear.

[[SiN]Rabbit]

Suros:/#님이 먼저 게시:

I wonder what it's like, constantly seeing gender, race, and victims, no matter the topic.

It's actually very humanizing. You listen to people's problems, to their experiences, to the pain they suffer, the bigotry, and to what they say about the way others abuse them, or ignore their problems.

I hope one day you'll learn to do the same, friend. Empathy is a wonderful experience.

Exogenous님이 먼저 게시:

I can't believe he reposted this and his bait actually got a bunch of people now XD

No repost. Perhaps you're confused?

[Aldain]

Exogenous님이 먼저 게시:

I can't believe he reposted this and his bait actually got a bunch of people now XD

Oh I know it's bait, but I do honestly and savagely hate the actual unironic culture war BS that some people never shut up about and saying so is like a pressure release valve to me.

[[SiN]Rabbit]

Aldain님이 먼저 게시:

Exogenous님이 먼저 게시:

I can't believe he reposted this and his bait actually got a bunch of people now XD

Oh I know it's bait, but I do honestly and savagely hate the actual unironic culture war BS that some people never shut up about and saying so is like a pressure release valve to me.

Can you explain this culture war, and how it hurt you?

[Suros:/#]

SiNRabbit님이 먼저 게시:

It's actually very humanizing. You listen to people's problems, to their experiences, to the pain they suffer, the bigotry, and to what they say about the way others abuse them, or ignore their problems.

I hope one day you'll learn to do the same, friend. Empathy is a wonderful experience.

I actually do feel quite a lot of empathy. The difference is that I don't treat everyone like the slightest opposition or hardship will kill them. I respect their ability to endure without my continuous vigilance and spoonfeeding.

[nowhere man]

Ok guys, report this thread and unsubscribe. Mods will lock it up.

[Chemical Games]

SiNRabbit님이 먼저 게시:

Not sure who you think I'm hoping to sleep with from this, friend, but perhaps my understanding of "white knighting" is a bit out of date.

Close. White Knighting is just attempting to defend a person or group that doesn't need defended. Generally, this means in hopes of getting something in return. Perhaps I should have used SJW? Either way, I assume you are at least getting the gist of what I am saying.

SiNRabbit님이 먼저 게시:

Right now, Goblins are in the popular consciousness due the abject dogwhistling antisemitism that use them as a drop-in replacement for their bigotry, from other popular and recently released games, as I referenced in the initial post.

In the words of the scientific minded and logical skeptics: "Citation Needed". Or is the picture of a goblin from this game your "evidence"? Cause you gotta do better than that.

SiNRabbit님이 먼저 게시:

The devs here surely aren't aware of either that, nor how the "happy merchant" itself relates to antisemitism. Learning about it and correcting the appearance of a dogwhistle will simply save them a headache in a long-run. I'm sure they haven't done anything with intent.

So what should they change the long eared, bald, green-skinned monster into?
Pretty sure the company will survive "the headache". 0_o

[smol-wittle-debil]

People hate him because he speaks the truth

[Chemical Games]

SiNRabbit님이 먼저 게시:

Aldain님이 먼저 게시:

Oh I know it's bait, but I do honestly and savagely hate the actual unironic culture war BS that some people never shut up about and saying so is like a pressure release valve to me.

Can you explain this culture war, and how it hurt you?

Point on the goblin where it hurt YOU.

[[SiN]Rabbit]

Suros:/#님이 먼저 게시:

SiNRabbit님이 먼저 게시:

It's actually very humanizing. You listen to people's problems, to their experiences, to the pain they suffer, the bigotry, and to what they say about the way others abuse them, or ignore their problems.

I hope one day you'll learn to do the same, friend. Empathy is a wonderful experience.

I actually do feel quite a lot of empathy. The difference is that I don't treat everyone like the slightest opposition or hardship will kill them. I respect their ability to endure without my continuous vigilance and spoonfeeding.

Maybe it's cultural empathy or generational empathy? Perhaps that is the difference, then. For some, bigotry has extended across such large swathes of time that multiple generations have been denied opportunities for advancement that have virtually restricted them to poverty, as with Redlining in the USA denying the chance for generational wealth to black families.

For jewish folks, antisemitic portrayals of them, as with the "happy merchant"-pose, which the "goblin merchant" uses, has been cause for extreme levels of abusive, bigotry, harassment, and violence. Empathy toward that nature would make one concerned, surely?

And since we're all in agreement that the devs of this game aren't antisemitic, I see no reason we can't all support them changing that, right? It is, after all, just a piece of art. Easy enough to change, and small in the grand scheme of things.

[TLT]

OMG!님이 먼저 게시:

I hear those same types of people who use the goblins also breath in oxygen and drink water.. better stop doing those things as well just to be safe.

Well sad Sir.

[He4iLL]

This is a video game... A MEDIEVAL FANTASY VIDEO GAME. GET YOUR G DAMN REAL WORLD POLITICS OUT OF OUR FUN TIME PLEASE. No one cares about your meaningless and absurd political views except for you and you must be extremely narcissistic to think everyone else needs to care about your shallow views about things that ultimately dont matter and dont make sense. Please dont like this game and go somewhere else if you feel this way. K BYE!

[[SiN]Rabbit]

YmE님이 먼저 게시:

This is a video game... A MEDIEVAL FANTASY VIDEO GAME. GET YOUR G DAMN REAL WORLD POLITICS OUT OF OUR FUN TIME PLEASE. No one cares about your meaningless and absurd political views except for you and you must be extremely narcissistic to think everyone else needs to care about your shallow views about things that ultimately dont matter and dont make sense. Please dont like this game and go somewhere else if you feel this way. K BYE!

I'm not sure why you're upset, friend. Since the portrayal can be seen as antisemitic, and we agree that the devs and everyone else posting here are not antisemitic, then surely you support the changing of the art?

TLT님이 먼저 게시:

OMG!님이 먼저 게시:

I hear those same types of people who use the goblins also breath in oxygen and drink water.. better stop doing those things as well just to be safe.

Well sad Sir.

I agree. It is sad. :(

[Lobster Lars]

Lmao, all the guys malding in the comments holy crap

[OMG!]

SiNRabbit님이 먼저 게시:

YmE님이 먼저 게시:

This is a video game... A MEDIEVAL FANTASY VIDEO GAME. GET YOUR G DAMN REAL WORLD POLITICS OUT OF OUR FUN TIME PLEASE. No one cares about your meaningless and absurd political views except for you and you must be extremely narcissistic to think everyone else needs to care about your shallow views about things that ultimately dont matter and dont make sense. Please dont like this game and go somewhere else if you feel this way. K BYE!

I'm not sure why you're upset, friend. Since the portrayal can be seen as antisemitic, and we agree that the devs and everyone else posting here are not antisemitic, then surely you support the changing of the art?

TLT님이 먼저 게시:

Well sad Sir.

I agree. It is sad. :(

Hey I can't help but notice that rabbit you're using as a profile picture has it's front paws held together as if it's wringing it's hands.. could you please change your extremely problimatic profile picture please? I mean I'm sure you're not doing it on purpose but you should still change it.. to be less problimatic.

[Suros:/#]

SiNRabbit님이 먼저 게시:

Maybe it's cultural empathy or generational empathy? Perhaps that is the difference, then. For some, bigotry has extended across such large swathes of time that multiple generations have been denied opportunities for advancement that have virtually restricted them to poverty, as with Redlining in the USA denying the chance for generational wealth to black families.

For jewish folks, antisemitic portrayals of them, as with the "happy merchant"-pose, which the "goblin merchant" uses, has been cause for extreme levels of abusive, bigotry, harassment, and violence. Empathy toward that nature would make one concerned, surely?

And since we're all in agreement that the devs of this game aren't antisemitic, I see no reason we can't all support them changing that, right? It is, after all, just a piece of art. Easy enough to change, and small in the grand scheme of things.

Well that's odd. I'm not any of those things, but I had my own share of problems anyway. Where was my shower of freebies? Somehow though, I made it anyway. As for the art, are you going to contribute the alternative, or are you going to demand that they produce more art until you're satisfied? Have you ever produced professional level art before?