Does anybody else feel like the Cleric is kinda lacking in PvP?

[BogTrotter]

I love playing clerics in Dungeons and Dragons and I love playing clerics in Dark and Darker but while I understand that the cleric is more of a support than a front liner in PvP, I still feel like clerics should be a little better.

One of my biggest concerns is a cleric's lack of ranged attacks, specifically in PvP. all of the other classes seem to have solutions to ranged combat. Wizards have ranged spells, rangers have bows (of course) even barbarians can use throwing axes, and fighters can use literally any weapon they want (throwing axes, throwing knives, bows, Xbows etc.). Clerics just dont seem to have anything to deal with long ranged PvP attackers besides judgement which is a pretty short range and a comparatively long cool down time to other long range attacks.

Another thing that bothers me about clerics is the lack of weapon variety. clerics can only use maces, two handed war mauls, and a quarterstaff for melee weapons (which i love bonk sticks are cool and all). it would be nice to be able to dual wield a spellcasting focus, and a weapon like the wizards do with a crystal ball and a dagger. it would maybe be cool to have a hatchet on the off hand and the spellbook in the main hand? I know that this game draws some inspiration from Dungeon and Dragons, and I just wanted to point out that in DnD 5e clerics are profficient with simple weapons like hand axes, daggers so I dont think that it would be too unreasonable for a Cleric to be able to use things like that.

Anyways, im just trying to provide my feedback for the game. I love Dark and Darker and hope that this discussion/ input can be helpful to the developers in some way.

[Rain4524]

lacking in pvp but u can full heal yourself 3 times and give urself free shields and buffs to all combat stats

[BigJ]

Judgement combined with divine strike and bless let's you 2htk 3/6 classes.

Cleric requires their buffs to be on par with other classes, add a beer on top and suddenly you are hitting harder than barb at 56ish damage swings with the flanged mace, made much higher with maul and morning star.

You also can stack 60 hp shields reslly easily to be as tanky as warrior for 20 seconds at base. You can also solo king wraith by spamming sanctuary on them. Which can be useful if you are forced into that 1 room by pvp

[Exogenous]

Cleric is a support melee if you want to be ranged caster play wizard if you want to use all the weapons play fighter and no they are amazing with team but suck solo

[Chemical Games]

Bless+Divine Strike + Smite Skill can create some pretty heavy hitting attacks from a cleric. Apparently it's even possible to two shot low-armored fighters with the starting mace.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Exogenous:

Cleric is a support melee if you want to be ranged caster play wizard if you want to use all the weapons play fighter and no they are amazing with team but suck solo

Idk, been really succesful with cleric solo by just playing stealth and then ambushing with full buffs on, killing the mage/ranger then dueling or running off depending on situation, judgement makes dodging barb strikes a breeze and guarantees you'll force a leg hit.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by Therian13:

Bless+Divine Strike + Smite Skill can create some pretty heavy hitting attacks from a cleric. Apparently it's even possible to two shot low-armored fighters with the starting mace.

+10 damage +3 strenght and two headshots and u can kill starting fighters on the morning star, (33 damage+10) idk about the flanged mace

[UncleIstvan]

Cleric is in a good place, PvP-wise. Yes, he doesn't have ranged attacks, but it's not like throwing utensils barbarian and rogue has are anything but slight annoyance. It's ok for a class to have a couple of weak spots.

[HALO_run]

it's op in pvp they can not only take 50% of your hp and make you slow but they can buff at the same time

[Oni]

PvP Tier list imo

S Tier: Fighter

A Tier: Ranger, Barbarian

B Tier: Cleric, Wizard

C Tier: Rogue

[Tristin]

Originally posted by Oni:

PvP Tier list imo

S Tier: Fighter

A Tier: Ranger, Barbarian

B Tier: Cleric, Wizard

C Tier: Rogue

Barbarian, maybe B tier. Idk maybe bc I haven't seen good one. Only seen glass cannons.

[Orpheus]

Originally posted by Oni:

PvP Tier list imo

S Tier: Fighter

A Tier: Ranger, Barbarian

B Tier: Cleric, Wizard

C Tier: Rogue

I'm curious, why is Fighter S tier?

[Darkstar]

Originally posted by BigJ:

Judgement combined with divine strike and bless let's you 2htk 3/6 classes.

Cleric requires their buffs to be on par with other classes, add a beer on top and suddenly you are hitting harder than barb at 56ish damage swings with the flanged mace, made much higher with maul and morning star.

You also can stack 60 hp shields reslly easily to be as tanky as warrior for 20 seconds at base. You can also solo king wraith by spamming sanctuary on them. Which can be useful if you are forced into that 1 room by pvp

I never thought of using the beer thank you <3

[BogTrotter]

yes I know that clerics have great buffs, but I didnt see anyone mention a solution to a cleric's lack of ranged solutions.

[BogTrotter]

Originally posted by HALO_run:

it's op in pvp they can not only take 50% of your hp and make you slow but they can buff at the same time

what ability does that?

[BogTrotter]

Originally posted by Tristin:

Originally posted by Oni:

PvP Tier list imo

S Tier: Fighter

A Tier: Ranger, Barbarian

B Tier: Cleric, Wizard

C Tier: Rogue

Barbarian, maybe B tier. Idk maybe bc I haven't seen good one. Only seen glass cannons.

I guess if the cleric is B tier, then I am not the only one who thinks that clerics are lacking