Dark and Darker

Dark and Darker

Påws° Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:34am
What is the point of equipment?
You lose it when you die. You die more than 50% of the dungeons.
So everytime you equip something you can kiss it goodbye.
Or do you survive all of your runs and defeat everyone and all ai every time?
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lag Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:38am 
You need to run in budget gear... When i survive goblins i earn over 100g and for casuall gear bought from vendor i need to give like 50g. Anyway if you are broke you can play naked and still succeed :) most important is to buy good weapon from my experience, to clear npc and players faster.

To be honest I buy items that I have space in my stash :)
Zalied Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:40am 
if you survive you usually have excess so you can save up a bit, in 3s my teams averaging 1.7 escapes per run (cus we get a lot of 2s and 1s)

equipment makes you significantly stronger but it doesnt mean youll escape but when you do die you should be saving your excess. enough that you could come in with at least slightly better than naked start.

Now this isnt to defend the system i definitely think dieing and not winning is often enough that i wouldnt get attacked to literally any gear ever which has its own drawbacks. Just to say that escaping isnt as hard as its made out to be and you should be able to at least be able to keep a small bit of gold and equipment for later. But sometimes you will run out.

I WILL NOTE i havnt played the solo map since its release so i cant give oppinions on survival rate of that. Just my opinions on how my 3s runs have been. you definitely lose enough that equipment is a bonus not an expectation
Påws° Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:43am 
Buying gear feels like 1 step forward 2 steps back.
It just dissapears the next run anyway.

Then you start the grind again...
Only sense of progress comes from seeing your naked level 15 character get a new perk
alan0n Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:44am 
You can just git gud and stop dying every other run?
Påws° Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by alan0n:
You can just git gud and stop dying every other run?
I can't. I will just uninstall since I am too bad at video games.
Fighterholic Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:48am 
This is the same game model as escape from Tarkov. It's a roguelite. You risk more going in with better gear, but you also risk less by having better gear. If you can one-shot enemies that normally took 2 hits, then you will increase your survival odds. Don't BUY gear unless you really have an excess of gold. do runs with base gear, and save up gear you can use and if you survive toss it all in your stash. You will get better and when you are confident enough, then you can start bringing in better gear.

This is the WHOLE POINT of having a stash.
Last edited by Fighterholic; Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:50am
lag Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:50am 
Also watch players in lobby, play more carfull if you see full geared people there :)
Zachenstien Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:53am 
Originally posted by Påws°:
Originally posted by alan0n:
You can just git gud and stop dying every other run?
I can't. I will just uninstall since I am too bad at video games.
my biggest suggestion to you is invest in meds and dress for success.
meaning dont bring in an epic weapon with armor bought from a vendor, if you have gear that goes with your playstyle you will be winning every dungeon
and lots of meds never hurt anyone band aids are better then pots since pots dont stack
take a pot then use a bandaid while the healing effect is still active

oh and always check the ground man, you never know where those rangers be puting their funny metal plates
doitfartdoe Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:53am 
I think the first two raids on the solo dungeon I died. Since then Ive have only profitable raids. Skill issue?
AgentFrozen Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:56am 
You get to a point where it works out. Right now I am set up to 2 shot goblins in the solo dungeon. The solo dungeon at this point for me is somewhat trivial. My biggest concern is other players but I find most run in low end gear because either they don't have anything else or they are scared to use the good stuff so I end up 2 shotting them. I have a range with a survival bow / spear build. The 2 shotting comes from the spear the bow is nice to put damage on players at range.
Påws° Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:58am 
You can 1 v 3 as a naked level 6 ranger, even if you have a 'skill issue' apparently.
No point in buying gear.
Påws° Feb 9, 2023 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by AgentFrozen:
You get to a point where it works out. Right now I am set up to 2 shot goblins in the solo dungeon. The solo dungeon at this point for me is somewhat trivial. My biggest concern is other players but I find most run in low end gear because either they don't have anything else or they are scared to use the good stuff so I end up 2 shotting them. I have a range with a survival bow / spear build. The 2 shotting comes from the spear the bow is nice to put damage on players at range.
So the spear is viable. You aren't losing your spear every other run?
AgentFrozen Feb 9, 2023 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by Påws°:
Originally posted by AgentFrozen:
You get to a point where it works out. Right now I am set up to 2 shot goblins in the solo dungeon. The solo dungeon at this point for me is somewhat trivial. My biggest concern is other players but I find most run in low end gear because either they don't have anything else or they are scared to use the good stuff so I end up 2 shotting them. I have a range with a survival bow / spear build. The 2 shotting comes from the spear the bow is nice to put damage on players at range.
So the spear is viable. You aren't losing your spear every other run?

Nope I'm doing 100+ dmg per hit with a blue spear to the head and 90s to the body at least if the training dummy in the pre game tavern is accurate. It 2-3 shots goblins. Usually drop them before they can even swing since the reach on the spear is pretty decent.

I've probably extracted successfully the last 10 times in a row with no issues. Even 1v2 players who were trying to gank me. Luckily I usually set some traps up and turn torches off next to them for later use in the round if needed. Caught many a barb and rogue in even the cheap traps and destroyed them.
Tyrannosaurus Flex Feb 9, 2023 @ 8:06am 
Your best use of gold is for consumables and buying shields/weapons/spell memory boosting items. Your source for quality armor should be looting. You shouldn't be dropping more than 50g for a run unless you have obscene amounts of money.

When you team up, look for a balanced team. 1 ranged, 1 melee, 1 cleric. Anything other than that balance is entirely dependent on other teams sucking worse than you.

Stash essential shields/weapons/spell memory items, sell everything else that isn't equipped.

You can do rat runs on forgotten castle for financial gain if you can't get a solid team going.

Microphones are a must.

Keep chatter to a minimum. Keep your call outs simple. Too many players running their mouths means that the enemy will hear you before you hear them.

Make sure your voice chat is in party mode.

Going down to level 2 can save you if you are careful, but you will more than likely die down there.
Pão Feb 9, 2023 @ 8:10am 
in my opinion the solo dungeon is more difficult than the one with trios, the mobs have a lot of life and the poison is very strong, in addition you end up spending more than half of the gold on potions, I think what is missing in the first map is healing statue it will help a little
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Date Posted: Feb 9, 2023 @ 7:34am
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