Pretty Frustrating Solo

[Wendy]

It's very frustrating playing this solo. The solo dungeon feels far more difficult than the Forgotten Castle, but the Forgotten Castle is filled with 2-3 people squads. Feels like no matter which place I queue, I'm always at a steep disadvantage w/o gear.

What's the trick to actually surviving a raid? I've done around 15 and have failed each time.

[Dregora]

Don't engage in pvp. Especially as a solo vs groups, simply don't do it. Unless you outgear them, you're not gonna win.

Stay hidden, loot, try to extract and build up a gold collection. Your goal shouldn't be to pvp.

[Flavalicious]

What i find amusing is everyone kept demanding solo mode..... and now that we have it we get the real truth....

They want easy mode. They just assumed being solo would achieve it on its own. Lol

Devs never said solo dungeon was easier dungeon. And yet thread after thread of people complaining that its more difficult. Haha

[ClAyMoRe*]

group dungeon is super easy. it is your best bet

[Ninefinger]

Solo is the only way to play once you get good, with a group winning is without much challenge and is boring AF trust me, but in the beginning its rough AF and thats where the most fun is, even once you get real good solo and have tons of good gear to burn it is not as fun, still fun, but not as much as fresh wipe starting with basic gear.

[Wendy]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Don't engage in pvp. Especially as a solo vs groups, simply don't do it. Unless you outgear them, you're not gonna win.

Stay hidden, loot, try to extract and build up a gold collection. Your goal shouldn't be to pvp.

That's what I've been trying to do. I'm not interested in fighting other players until I'm confident in the mechanics of the game. It's just very disheartening to go through multiple rooms with such a flimsy starter kit. Is Rogue not a good beginner class?

[Cheslock]

take off all your armor break pots and nascar around until the end

[Wendy]

Originally posted by Flavalicious:

What i find amusing is everyone kept demanding solo mode..... and now that we have it we get the real truth....

They want easy mode. They just assumed being solo would achieve it on its own. Lol

Devs never said solo dungeon was easier dungeon. And yet thread after thread of people complaining that its more difficult. Haha

This is my first time playing the game. I haven't complained about anything having to do with solo/group dungeon balance. The only thing I said was that it's frustrating and I'm not sure how to progress.

[Acer]

It is slightly odd that the solo dungeon seems to have larger groups of enemies. If they were trying to tune for the decreased pvp difficulty with harder pve, they might've gone just a bit too far.

[A Temu Vape]

The solo dungeon in this is actually trash. lmao. If you play as a fresh character, you're absolutely not going to get far unless you're lucky... or do what I did and play Fighter and just block everything.

What's insane is the goblins take more to kill than anything else and you will always be swarmed by multiple of them. Try killing one as an archer... the amount of headshots it took to kill were double digits. That's incredibly bad.

[Ninefinger]

Originally posted by Wendy:

Originally posted by Flavalicious:

What i find amusing is everyone kept demanding solo mode..... and now that we have it we get the real truth....

They want easy mode. They just assumed being solo would achieve it on its own. Lol

Devs never said solo dungeon was easier dungeon. And yet thread after thread of people complaining that its more difficult. Haha

This is my first time playing the game. I haven't complained about anything. The only thing I said was that it's frustrating and I'm not sure how to progress.

I can give you what limited knowledge I have, and everyone is different but in terms of being able to succeed at the game you need the right frame of mind.

My thought process is to make myself have a fun sustainable gameplay loop with as basic gear as possible.

Unfortunately my fav class the mage requires a book and crystal sword to have that feeling and it requires the traders to have those items and you need to stock up in previous play tests cause they didn't always have them, the sword takes care of mobs easy and the book allows for decent speed with spells in pvp.

The Rogue requires a good dagger, and for the least investment the Ranger can go in with nothing and hunt down an archer skelly and have a decent bow and you are set for a fun sustainable gameplay loop even if you dont succeed going in and getting a bow is the fun part and its easy enough to be enjoyable, once you start popping off it just gets better from there.

Gear makes the difference and I never hesitate to use gear as I see it all as easy come easy go just like the grey gear, once you start getting some wins and money and buying / selling gear on the market its not hard to let it flow.

[Low_IQ_Huan]

Originally posted by Flavalicious:

What i find amusing is everyone kept demanding solo mode..... and now that we have it we get the real truth....

They want easy mode. They just assumed being solo would achieve it on its own. Lol

Devs never said solo dungeon was easier dungeon. And yet thread after thread of people complaining that its more difficult. Haha

that's because the devs are retarded, the solo map is literally harder than going solo in a 3man map at the moment, people thought that if you were gonna get a solo map they would tone down the health or amount of mobs since you're alone to clear it instead of 3 !? they were just dumb enough to add a solo map and make it harder than the 3 man map which if you look at it objectively is dumb as ♥♥♥♥. that's exactly what made me lose all hope for this game

[tim.]

Part of me kind of feels like the absurd difficulty of the solo dungeon was meant to discourage solo players from playing altogether. By getting "data" that fewer people were playing the Solo map, they could say "Well, we tried to give them a solo mode, but nobody played it. Guess it was just a vocal minority, and we won't bother with solo anymore." It's a bit conspiratorial and i do tend to trust that the devs are doing what they're doing with good intentions, but it's not entirely out of the question.

I've gotten a few escapes from the cave so far, and i do like that cooperation is more likely than in the group lobbies, but i genuinely think the gob cave is really messy (both in level design and PvE design) and multiple steps backwards from the "normal" map.

I've come around to it a bit more by playing more of it, but the map is really ugly. The dark fantasy vibe the castle map had was way cooler. It would have been much more fair for testing the solo queue if both the cave and the castle were available for solo players, or making the cave just an extra map for group players to explore while just giving a solo version of the castle to solo players.

[Wendy]

Originally posted by Ninefinger:

Originally posted by Wendy:

This is my first time playing the game. I haven't complained about anything. The only thing I said was that it's frustrating and I'm not sure how to progress.

I can give you what limited knowledge I have, and everyone is different but in terms of being able to succeed at the game you need the right frame of mind.

My thought process is to make myself have a fun sustainable gameplay loop with as basic gear as possible.

Unfortunately my fav class the mage requires a book and crystal sword to have that feeling and it requires the traders to have those items and you need to stock up in previous play tests cause they didn't always have them, the sword takes care of mobs easy and the book allows for decent speed with spells in pvp.

The Rogue requires a good dagger, and for the least investment the Ranger can go in with nothing and hunt down an archer skelly and have a decent bow and you are set for a fun sustainable gameplay loop even if you dont succeed going in and getting a bow is the fun part and its easy enough to be enjoyable, once you start popping off it just gets better from there.

Gear makes the difference and I never hesitate to use gear as I see it all as easy come easy go just like the grey gear, once you start getting some wins and money and buying / selling gear on the market its not hard to let it flow.

Really appreciate the help! I switched to the Archer and was able to use your advice to extract. Looting the skeletal archer was a huge help. Thanks!

[☢︎Noob☢]

Originally posted by Flavalicious:

What i find amusing is everyone kept demanding solo mode..... and now that we have it we get the real truth....

They want easy mode. They just assumed being solo would achieve it on its own. Lol

Devs never said solo dungeon was easier dungeon. And yet thread after thread of people complaining that its more difficult. Haha

Your opinion is so silly. The Solo Dungeon is HARDER than the castle NPC wise, meaning it's easier to play solo with trios than going to the Solo Dungeon.

It needs balancing. it's simple like that. Most rooms have 4 to 6 or even 7 goblins which are faster and stronger than zombies and skeletons. It also has insects that are 3 to 5 times stronger than the ones in the castle.

If you doubt it, give it a try on your own. Play both the castle and the cave Solo and see if you won't change your mind instead of making disingenuous comments like that.

[Foogley]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Don't engage in pvp. Especially as a solo vs groups, simply don't do it. Unless you outgear them, you're not gonna win.

Stay hidden, loot, try to extract and build up a gold collection. Your goal shouldn't be to pvp.

Wow what a fun PvPvE game description.