VR suggestions

[Cpt. Dr. A]

Hello all
I'm planning to get a VR headset soon for the sole purpose of using it for flight simulation. There are many types in the market, which one in your opinion is the best one and why?
My VR experience in XP11 was really good and it ran smooth, I used the Oculus rift S. does XP12 run VR as smooth as XP11 or there are bugs?
THANKS!

[J. Elkroc]

I won't say it is as smooth as XP11 yet, but I have a Rift S and I have been getting 30+ FPS when I run XP12 under Virtual Desktop. The VR experience has improved greatly for me with the latest beta 12.1.1 when using it this way. There is still much graphical shimmering but I can live with it for now.

[ferengi]

The Quest 3 has pretty decent hardware for the price, but you will need a very powerful graphics card to get the most out of it. Xplane 12 is not that well optimized for VR, IMHO.

[J. Elkroc]

If I was buying new, I'd go Quest 3. I agree with jost that it is not optimized for VR but I'll add "yet" to that as they have much work to do. It might be another year at this pace but I am trying to get used to VR now that the FPS is up. It's all in the sliders really. Adjust so you get 70 FPS with one monitor then go into VR for 30+. And get used to the shimmering.

[Cpt. Dr. A]

Originally posted by J. Elkroc:

I won't say it is as smooth as XP11 yet, but I have a Rift S and I have been getting 30+ FPS when I run XP12 under Virtual Desktop. The VR experience has improved greatly for me with the latest beta 12.1.1 when using it this way. There is still much graphical shimmering but I can live with it for now.

Originally posted by jost:

The Quest 3 has pretty decent hardware for the price, but you will need a very powerful graphics card to get the most out of it. Xplane 12 is not that well optimized for VR, IMHO.

Originally posted by J. Elkroc:

If I was buying new, I'd go Quest 3. I agree with jost that it is not optimized for VR but I'll add "yet" to that as they have much work to do. It might be another year at this pace but I am trying to get used to VR now that the FPS is up. It's all in the sliders really. Adjust so you get 70 FPS with one monitor then go into VR for 30+. And get used to the shimmering.

Thank you all for your comments. I will do more research and decide later on ...
As for the graphics card, I have the RTX 3070 Ti and It is pretty good in terms of FPS. I'm wondering if the FPS in VR is dependent on the graphics card or the type of headset? I'm not an expert in specs so don't mind the question xD

[Maki Nishikino]

In general playing in VR is more demanding.

[Cpt. Dr. A]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Playing in VR is more demanding.

I played before in a pc with RTX 2080 Ti, it ran perfectly fine, but it was XP11 lol... Never tried XP12 in VR before.

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by Cpt. Dr. A:

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Playing in VR is more demanding.

I played before in a pc with RTX 2080 Ti, it ran perfectly fine, but it was XP11 lol... Never tried XP12 in VR before.

I don't play games in VR anymore but for me with an RTX 4090 XP 12 ran fine.

[J. Elkroc]

Obvi the better the graphics card, the better the VR experience. I have a RTX3060 from EVGA. Not too expensive and works OK. Get a card with the most VRAM as you can though.

[💢𝓐ℓ ¢нємιѕт💢]

Originally posted by Cpt. Dr. A:

I'm wondering if the FPS in VR is dependent on the graphics card or the type of headset? I'm not an expert in specs so don't mind the question xD

VR graphics performance depends on the resolution of the lenses. High resolution means more powerful graphics card is needed. Quest 3 needs more powerful graphics card than Quest 2 for example.
2064×2208 vs 1832×1920.

[Cpt. Dr. A]

Originally posted by Al Chemist:

Originally posted by Cpt. Dr. A:

I'm wondering if the FPS in VR is dependent on the graphics card or the type of headset? I'm not an expert in specs so don't mind the question xD

VR graphics performance depends on the resolution of the lenses. High resolution means more powerful graphics card is needed. Quest 3 needs more powerful graphics card than Quest 2 for example.
2064×2208 vs 1832×1920.

I have RTX 3070 Ti… Which one is good for me? Also these are wireless, do you think wired ones like Rift or Rift S are better in regards to performance?

[TreeBaron]

Hey, I have a Quest 3 and a 3060 graphics card. X-Plane 11 VR works great for me, but X-Plane 12 is quite literally unplayable as of recent updates. Even when I could play it I had to throttle down the resolution to get a good enough framerate and so it looked terrible.
Your mileage may vary depending on future game updates and your VR headset though.
I think if you have the choice to avoid oculus you might get better performance from X-Plane, I say this only because I have to run Oculus VR AND Steam VR then run X-Plane to run VR in X-Plane. If I had a steam VR headset or a 3rd party I could cut out Oculus and probably get better performance.
Beyond framerate the last update added back a jittering bug for the VR camera that had previously been fixed. There's at least one other report of the the poor performance and jittering so I don't think it's just me, but who knows. As it stands I don't know of any hardware powerful enough to run X-Plane 12 VR at a decent framerate. Even like $3k computers are being brought to their knees, at least according to forum posts I've seen.

[TreeBaron]

Originally posted by TreeBaron:

Hey, I have a Quest 3 and a 3060 graphics card. X-Plane 11 VR works great for me, but X-Plane 12 is quite literally unplayable as of recent updates. Even when I could play it I had to throttle down the resolution to get a good enough framerate and so it looked terrible.
Your mileage may vary depending on future game updates and your VR headset though.
I think if you have the choice to avoid oculus you might get better performance from X-Plane, I say this only because I have to run Oculus VR AND Steam VR then run X-Plane to run VR in X-Plane. If I had a steam VR headset or a 3rd party I could cut out Oculus and probably get better performance.
Beyond framerate the last update added back a jittering bug for the VR camera that had previously been fixed. There's at least one other report of the the poor performance and jittering so I don't think it's just me, but who knows. As it stands I don't know of any hardware powerful enough to run X-Plane 12 VR at a decent framerate. Even like $3k computers are being brought to their knees, at least according to forum posts I've seen.

So, my performance in X-Plane 12 was just unbelievably bad, so I did a little bit of digging and found that Steam now has a Steam Link app which you can install on your Quest 3 which cuts-out oculus on your pc. So I uninstalled oculus from my PC and used Steam Link for X-Plane 12.
Wow! What a huge difference, it actually is playable. Not as smooth as X-Plane 11 but even without touching settings it was totally serviceable.

[Cpt. Dr. A]

Originally posted by TreeBaron:

Hey, I have a Quest 3 and a 3060 graphics card. X-Plane 11 VR works great for me, but X-Plane 12 is quite literally unplayable as of recent updates. Even when I could play it I had to throttle down the resolution to get a good enough framerate and so it looked terrible.
Your mileage may vary depending on future game updates and your VR headset though.
I think if you have the choice to avoid oculus you might get better performance from X-Plane, I say this only because I have to run Oculus VR AND Steam VR then run X-Plane to run VR in X-Plane. If I had a steam VR headset or a 3rd party I could cut out Oculus and probably get better performance.
Beyond framerate the last update added back a jittering bug for the VR camera that had previously been fixed. There's at least one other report of the the poor performance and jittering so I don't think it's just me, but who knows. As it stands I don't know of any hardware powerful enough to run X-Plane 12 VR at a decent framerate. Even like $3k computers are being brought to their knees, at least according to forum posts I've seen.

Originally posted by TreeBaron:

Originally posted by TreeBaron:

Hey, I have a Quest 3 and a 3060 graphics card. X-Plane 11 VR works great for me, but X-Plane 12 is quite literally unplayable as of recent updates. Even when I could play it I had to throttle down the resolution to get a good enough framerate and so it looked terrible.
Your mileage may vary depending on future game updates and your VR headset though.
I think if you have the choice to avoid oculus you might get better performance from X-Plane, I say this only because I have to run Oculus VR AND Steam VR then run X-Plane to run VR in X-Plane. If I had a steam VR headset or a 3rd party I could cut out Oculus and probably get better performance.
Beyond framerate the last update added back a jittering bug for the VR camera that had previously been fixed. There's at least one other report of the the poor performance and jittering so I don't think it's just me, but who knows. As it stands I don't know of any hardware powerful enough to run X-Plane 12 VR at a decent framerate. Even like $3k computers are being brought to their knees, at least according to forum posts I've seen.

So, my performance in X-Plane 12 was just unbelievably bad, so I did a little bit of digging and found that Steam now has a Steam Link app which you can install on your Quest 3 which cuts-out oculus on your pc. So I uninstalled oculus from my PC and used Steam Link for X-Plane 12.
Wow! What a huge difference, it actually is playable. Not as smooth as X-Plane 11 but even without touching settings it was totally serviceable.

That was comprehensive, thank you!
Thanks for the update! I will take all these facts into consideration when I make a decision.

Thank you all for your replies, I appreciate it :)

[Crossfader]

I have attempted to play X-Plane 12 in VR with the PSVR 2 and it crashes. Of course, I also started the game in non VR and went to settings to turn on the option for VR Hardware, and it crashed right away. It is having a problem with Vulkan.

This was on a PC with a AMD 5600 CPU and a RX 6700XT and running windows 10.

I will wait patiently for them to fix this for the PSVR2.

Until then I will use my Linux PC with 3 monitors, they have recently fixed the Steam version in Fedora, before it would crash running on Fedora witht he steam version, so I had to buy their alternative version for Linux, the appimage one, That one started perfectly fine in Fedora.

[Danger Donkey]

I have both. Xplane 12 compared to 11 in VR is atrocious. I've got it down to relatively smooth FPS but there are constant lag spikes and the background outside of the plane is shaking and jittering. None of these issues in 11 and I run a 13600k and 4070 super.