I tried it and I think: "Why not just play WC3 or SC2?"

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Seriously. Besides the artstyle and movement or unit size; this game makes me want to play the older ones, with more unit variety and equal or better engine control.

Everytime I try SG i think that and I also bought WC3 RF now because it made me do it.

Infernal instant spawn design is bad btw.
Hit and run feels bad for marines or hedgehogs, it doesnt feel as precise as hit and run of the other 2 rts mentioned.

Cossacks champion design, warcraft 3 main building upgrade. The latter is ok, but the champion design leads to more pokefights to retreat.

Sure it is first version but unit variety is important, especially when having the history of rts games, which it has to beat. And a newcomer with just a few units wont hook anyone.

I am disappointed, as disappointed as I almost play SC:BW again.

The argument "it is just beta" is not really good for these problems, they will stay into the release. They wont give their races 50% more buildings.

The most important thing, which I wished for this game was to have 3 resources and another design of gathering, which allows a new type of harrassment as well, e.g. adding a tomb layer etc. Not more than 3 resources, otherwise it would be like AoE.
Instead it is still 2 with warcraft 3 mines and age of mythology special abilities...

I rate it 5/10

[clam]

I agree

[jonoliveira12]

It is not Age of Mythology abilities at all.
It is Spear of Adun abilities, from the Legacy of the Void campaign, which itself is taken from the Support Powers from C&C.

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I think its simply because people have played those games to death, and even though this game is lower quality just being new is enough for interest. At least thats the only reasoning i can think of.

[#1 Slime NA]

>The argument "it is just beta" is not really good for these problems, they will stay into the release. They wont give their races 50% more buildings.

You know the tech tree only goes up to t2, right? We're missing an entire tier of units/buildings/upgrades. So if we only have 2/3 of the available tech now, and it goes up to 3/3... that is literally a 50% increase. SC2 and WC3 would look pretty sparse if you removed all the T3 tech as well.

[TrashtheEgo]

Rollback netcode for one.

[Sifer2]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

It is not Age of Mythology abilities at all.
It is Spear of Adun abilities, from the Legacy of the Void campaign, which itself is taken from the Support Powers from C&C.

All races also had the global abilities in SC2 Co-Op mode. This game was originally supposed to target 3v3, and 3vAI co-op both modes with heroes. Now that they decided to make 1v1 the main mode, and more of a direct Starcraft clone the abilities do feel out of place.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Sifer2:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

It is not Age of Mythology abilities at all.
It is Spear of Adun abilities, from the Legacy of the Void campaign, which itself is taken from the Support Powers from C&C.

All races also had the global abilities in SC2 Co-Op mode. This game was originally supposed to target 3v3, and 3vAI co-op both modes with heroes. Now that they decided to make 1v1 the main mode, and more of a direct Starcraft clone the abilities do feel out of place.

It was on the LotV campaign, before teh Coop mode even launched, and then was ported there.

I do agree that it seems that, at first, the game was supposed to be a Coop first and foremost game, but has been captured by the 1v1 Esports crowd, and that is who it will be catering to, in the end.

[Nine]

Because development for those games has ended. Let FG get on their feet instead of bashing them down. Morons would rather watch FG fail then complain in the coming years how we have no RTS games. gaming community is double digit IQ i swear to ♥♥♥♥.

[Nine]

wc3 is full of turbo autists and the matchmaking either doesn't work or doesn't have the players to properly match with people your skill. So good luck trying to learn without getting verbally assaulted which in my case, ends up with me getting banned for a few days trying to defend myself (psa:chat doesn't censor a single word, kek). Not worth the time. SC2 is stale af, unless you plan on playing ranked. There is nothing left.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Nine:

Because development for those games has ended. Let FG get on their feet instead of bashing them down. Morons would rather watch FG fail then complain in the coming years how we have no RTS games. gaming community is double digit IQ i swear to ♥♥♥♥.

We have PLENTY of RTS games, in the coming years. Stormgate is not "the last hope of the RTS genre", like so many are making it out to be.

[RamzaBehoulve]

That's the main issue I have after playing.

There is literally no reason right now to play this instead of Starcraft 2if you already own that one.

[777Azure7strix777]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by Sifer2:

All races also had the global abilities in SC2 Co-Op mode. This game was originally supposed to target 3v3, and 3vAI co-op both modes with heroes. Now that they decided to make 1v1 the main mode, and more of a direct Starcraft clone the abilities do feel out of place.

It was on the LotV campaign, before teh Coop mode even launched, and then was ported there.

I do agree that it seems that, at first, the game was supposed to be a Coop first and foremost game, but has been captured by the 1v1 Esports crowd, and that is who it will be catering to, in the end.

And that crowd will kill it :D.

[adrian_emf_182]

yeah both are much better so far and This game wants to be both games but it doesn't achieve it

[EAX]

Personally im morr concerned about the very unattractive art direction this game has.
Tried 3 rounds and had no fun with it, like completly none.
Music isnt great, audio isnt, graphics arent… to me it felt like starcraft hasnt existed and the game is before that.
I also wasnt happy that the game consumes so much PC performance for almost nothing.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by 777Azure7strix777:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

It was on the LotV campaign, before teh Coop mode even launched, and then was ported there.

I do agree that it seems that, at first, the game was supposed to be a Coop first and foremost game, but has been captured by the 1v1 Esports crowd, and that is who it will be catering to, in the end.

And that crowd will kill it :D.

They are a minority, of a minority, of a minority, but they speak as if they are the entire RTS playerbase.