Stop making Ryza games

[toughnails]

The same exact party for the THIRD time? Ryza 2 already felt like filler with the story going absolutely nowhere, and now they're giving us even MORE of the same? What is this, Trails of Cold Steel? The rehashing is getting really bad, I miss the previous games where you had a new protagonist and a new party in each new entry. Ryza ruined the series.

[haohaoた̷た̷]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ i cant believe they actually make the third game.

[Rono]

Record breaking sales franchise, also they always make trilogies granted with different characters, But I think from the title you can clearly see this is the last game.So it doesn't matter too much since they released Sophie 2 early this year I think they will release something new next year without a doubt.

[jclosed]

Atelier games mostly have a "theme". You have the Arland series, the Dusk series, Mysterious and now the Secret series. All these themed games have come as a trilogy. Granted - The Arland and Mysterious series got a fourth game with respectively Atelier Lulua and Atelier Sophie 2, but they all started as a trilogy initially. The only thing different for the Secret trilogy is that the original protagonist did not took a backseat after the first game like in the other trilogy's.

Taking the above in account, it was to be expected the there would be a third Ryza game. And indeed - here it is... After this third game I think there would be a new trilogy starting with another protagonist. If that protagonist will be the main protagonist throughout the trilogy remains to be seen. It's fully possible Gust goes back to one protagonist per game (with the previous protagonist in the backseat). Time will tell.

Anyway - This will be that last Ryza game as far as I can see. Although it would not surprise me if you would get a Ryza 4 much later after the next trilogy.

Personally I am looking forward to this last Atelier Ryza game. I am curious what will come after that, but I guess we have to wait at least a year before we find out.

[ShinyFuji]

Gladly, this is last Ryza game.

[SupDos]

I will buy every Ryza game 3 more times just to spite you

[jclosed]

I don't dislike the Ryza games (so far). Yeah - It's different from the previous games, but I think it's refreshing to have some different game play now and then. They experimented with some variation also in Blue Reflection: Second Light (and the original Blue Reflection). It resulted in some nice game mechanics.

You can argue the alchemy is different from the previous games, but I personally had a fun time with it. I like the mechanics in Ryza, but I also like the matrix/grid based mechanics from previous games. The story is on par with the previous Atelier games, so there is also no problem. Maybe you can argue about the fan service, but that's also nothing more than a personal taste. I don't dislike it at all, but I also think it is no big deal. Nothing to make a big fuss about really. I like the art in the Ryza games. It is on par with the latest Atelier games like Lydie & Suelle and Sophie 2.

And yes, before I get the argument I have not played enough Atelier games to give a balanced opinion - I played (or am playing) almost all Atelier games. No - I don't have all games on Steam (yet), because I played a lot of them on a console. So I think I can at least am entitled to give a somewhat balanced opinion (although, like all personal opinions, it's somewhat subjective).

At the end I think it's a question of taste. Some like the Atelier Ryza games, and some not. There is no real definitive answer for something that depends on taste.

[met aalfret naar zee]

Kind of disappointed.
I wanted a different protagonist in the secret series....and Ryza 3 later, if it was still necessary storywise...
But it will be a fun game anyway, I guess I should be happy instead

[Yukito For Ever]

Stop the hate to Ryza.
I have played 10th Atelier games: All Arland series (4), all Misterious Series (4), and Ryza 1 & 2. Ryza series are fun, different mechanics from others and fun gameplay. I think still is a bit weak in terms of exploration, but seems this going to be improved, who knows.

Also Ryza is a great character, given is the main protagonist in all the series, we can see her evolution deeper, first as a girl unconfident about what to do with her life, learning alchemy, facing an unique adventure, later becoming a teacher, travel for the first time to a big city discovering a new adventure, forming a deep bond with a faery and then thinking about what will be her next step in her life.

I think is a great way to close her arc, although if for me, I would like as many Ryza's Gust wants to throw at us LoL xD. At least is what I believe. Time will tell.

[Honorable_D]

Did you not read that there are ELEVEN characters in this one? If everyone returns from the previous games that means there are still a couple of slots open for all new characters.

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by haohaoた̷た̷:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ i cant believe they actually make the third game.

Yup. But what can you do. They want that popularity $$

I hope they atleast improved things compared to Ryza 2. Especially the combat they really messed up going from 1 to 2. Or the alchemy being too easymode.

Originally posted by jclosed:

Atelier games mostly have a "theme". You have the Arland series, the Dusk series, Mysterious and now the Secret series. All these themed games have come as a trilogy. Granted - The Arland and Mysterious series got a fourth game with respectively Atelier Lulua and Atelier Sophie 2, but they all started as a trilogy initially. The only thing different for the Secret trilogy is that the original protagonist did not took a backseat after the first game like in the other trilogy's.

Taking the above in account, it was to be expected the there would be a third Ryza game.

The Ryza series doesnt follow that theme. Because those other series all have different main characters. Ryza has had the same main character for 3 games now.

Atelier has always changed main alchemist with every single game, and now weve had the same main alchemist for 3 games in a series. I'm not surprised people other then myself are tired of her.

Coupled with the fact she's no Sophie or Ayesha... at best she's kind of the middle of the pack, at worst she's one of the least appeal Alchemists in the franchise. And her cast of characters are kind of underwhelming aside from a few like Klaudia. (Empel and Lilia werent playable in second game)

Actually I would have prefered if Ryza 2 or even all 3 games had Klaudia as Alchemist..

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by Yukito The Cat:

Also Ryza is a great character

What is she Rean now? Just because she gets 3 games, she suddenly turns into a great character?

She isnt a bad character, but she isnt interesting enough in personality or character design to warrant a ''great'' tag.

[larcek]

aside from ryza i only finished the mysterious series and i gotta say, i would have loved if Sophia had kept being the main character there, since the resolution of Plachta, which had been the initial start of the whole series, turned into a smaller short side event. as such, i prefer having Ryza staying the main character, keeping the whole plot in line.

i'm also hoping to see a resolution to Fii in this game, felt much like a cliffhanger in Ryza 2.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by toughnails:

The same exact party for the THIRD time? Ryza 2 already felt like filler with the story going absolutely nowhere, and now they're giving us even MORE of the same? What is this, Trails of Cold Steel? The rehashing is getting really bad, I miss the previous games where you had a new protagonist and a new party in each new entry. Ryza ruined the series.

well next time buy sophie 2 and they will made more atelier sophie, because atelier sophie 2 sale is not good they back to ryza

so if people dont want rorona and sophie, we are stuck with ryza :^(

[Demigod Dan]

Originally posted by toughnails:

The same exact party for the THIRD time? Ryza 2 already felt like filler with the story going absolutely nowhere, and now they're giving us even MORE of the same? What is this, Trails of Cold Steel? The rehashing is getting really bad, I miss the previous games where you had a new protagonist and a new party in each new entry. Ryza ruined the series.

You may be right OP, but you are forgetting something very important: None of those new parties in each entry had thighs and booba like Ryza does :^)

And that did 'change' with her blossoming into full 'maturity' in this third entry ;D with a lead character like Ryza & her 'developing' like that it's like printing money mate! And every person of culture is here for it!

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by vkobe:

Originally posted by toughnails:

The same exact party for the THIRD time? Ryza 2 already felt like filler with the story going absolutely nowhere, and now they're giving us even MORE of the same? What is this, Trails of Cold Steel? The rehashing is getting really bad, I miss the previous games where you had a new protagonist and a new party in each new entry. Ryza ruined the series.

well next time buy sophie 2 and they will made more atelier sophie, because atelier sophie 2 sale is not good they back to ryza

so if people dont want rorona and sophie, we are stuck with ryza :^(

Game dev doesnt work like that. They already started on Ryza 3 before Sophie 2 was even finished.