Phoenix Force

[Xenomorpheus]

Anyone else feel like this card is just underwhelming for being 5 cost? Has its situations for sure but really feels like it shines when you're already winning.

[Jack_Burton]

I think its a great card. You can put it in a Destroy deck with Knull and Death.

And since it moves, it works great in a movement deck if Vulture, Human Torch, Dagger, or Madrox are what it resurrects. lol

[Lady MacBeth]

Its a card with some potential. It can do really nutty things with Multiple man of course. I was watching Jeff live stream it on release day and he had some pretty good builds and was fairly successful with it in Conquest. I will need to go steal some of his builds maybe to knock out the weekend missions easily.

[Tray]

Goes great in a modified shuri deck to be a bit more unpredictable.

[kingts]

Its a fine card, not super great, but not awful, you have to control what you kill and be very careful when you move it. I have seen a big Phoenix move out of a lane to allow Galactus to destroy and win games on the vacated lane you just left Phoenix with. Have to think on how you apply that move and why.
Very fun card at times, but a card that you can still win plenty of games without.
Future Destroy cards coming will enhance its abilities for sure.

[Jack_Burton]

Originally posted by kingts:

Its a fine card, not super great, but not awful, you have to control what you kill and be very careful when you move it. I have seen a big Phoenix move out of a lane to allow Galactus to destroy and win games on the vacated lane you just left Phoenix with. Have to think on how you apply that move and why.
Very fun card at times, but a card that you can still win plenty of games without.
Future Destroy cards coming will enhance its abilities for sure. :Garrison:

I agree. I've been trying to make her work in a Move/Destroy deck but I find controlling what gets destroyed to be annoying and upsetting the flow of things. And then if you don't draw Phoenix Force? lol

I think she's more fun in a full on Destroy deck, which like you said is going to get some nice cards next month.

[Lady MacBeth]

This deck is the one I think I will be using. Shes just one of a couple different ways it can go about trying to win. The original list ran iron lad, but I don't have him, and I think there are laces where ghost-spider will be much better.

# (1) Iron Fist
# (2) Carnage
# (2) Ghost-Spider
# (2) Multiple Man
# (3) Venom
# (3) Deathlok
# (4) Shuri
# (4) Crystal
# (5) Nimrod
# (5) Phoenix Force
# (6) Heimdall
# (6) America Chavez
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[kingts]

@Ming, Yes my youngest daughter is playing a very similar deck but no Heimdall or Deathlok, just too inconsistent on the triggers, everything else pretty close. She is very casual but doing very well.
My eldest is playing Phoenix Galactus and is up to 77, doing very well, very sneaky. She is also doing a Grey lockdown.

[Squire]

It's a fun card but it's not a great card and is a bit awkward to use sometimes

[JTHMandSQEE]

Yeah, I agree. This card doesn’t carry you nearly as hard as the others do. You’d think something as OP in the source material would, but it’s just a meh deal overall.

[Xenomorpheus]

Originally posted by Lady Ming:

This deck is the one I think I will be using. Shes just one of a couple different ways it can go about trying to win. The original list ran iron lad, but I don't have him, and I think there are laces where ghost-spider will be much better.

# (1) Iron Fist
# (2) Carnage
# (2) Ghost-Spider
# (2) Multiple Man
# (3) Venom
# (3) Deathlok
# (4) Shuri
# (4) Crystal
# (5) Nimrod
# (5) Phoenix Force
# (6) Heimdall
# (6) America Chavez
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I've been trying this deck you suggested and it's fairly good overall but I still feel playing Phoenix Force itself is usually the wrong play or barely scrapes through. Does make Multiple Man a proper card again though. Best combo though just ends up being Shuri into Nimrod into Venom/Carnage or both for big Nimrods everywhere which also just makes Phoenix Force feel more pointless lmfao

[Lady MacBeth]

Originally posted by Xenomorpheus:

Originally posted by Lady Ming:

This deck is the one I think I will be using. Shes just one of a couple different ways it can go about trying to win. The original list ran iron lad, but I don't have him, and I think there are laces where ghost-spider will be much better.

# (1) Iron Fist
# (2) Carnage
# (2) Ghost-Spider
# (2) Multiple Man
# (3) Venom
# (3) Deathlok
# (4) Shuri
# (4) Crystal
# (5) Nimrod
# (5) Phoenix Force
# (6) Heimdall
# (6) America Chavez
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I've been trying this deck you suggested and it's fairly good overall but I still feel playing Phoenix Force itself is usually the wrong play or barely scrapes through. Does make Multiple Man a proper card again though. Best combo though just ends up being Shuri into Nimrod into Venom/Carnage or both for big Nimrods everywhere which also just makes Phoenix Force feel more pointless lmfao

Yeah sometimes. Honestly since I don't have the ironlad the deck normally includes I think I'm gonna pull the chavez. The main point of her was to thin the deck to improve the ironlad odds when it needs to hit something specific. I don't know what I am gonna replace her with. But I still need to do 10 force wins. I didn't play any force yesterday and that was a mistake to put it all off till today essentially.

Edit: So I replaced Chavez with Shang and its been working much better then the other version since I don't have lad in here due to the ownership issue.