Why is Enchantress the way she is?

[[JBT] Flash Gordon]

So, the fact that Enchantress works after you've invested a couple of turns into a scheme is kinda annoying, but what the hell, that's how that crap card works. No clue why the designers don't see it as a bad mechanic. Then again, we have the High Evolutionary mechanic, so that's telling.

But what is bad is the fact that Enchantress doesn't block Ongoing cards from working, but that the completely removes the abilities. The Ongoing cards are no longer Ongoing, for some weird, freaky, utterly incomprehensible reason.

As such, nothing that would work with them works with them anymore. Which connects nicely with my first paragraph. It is a card that completely annihilates a location with Ongoing cards, unlike any other card in the game. It both removes their abilities AND removes the Ongoing "status". And it's a 4/5 card, to add insult to injury. Or maybe i shoud say murder, cause you can recover from injury.

So, any clues why the design team thought such a rape card would be a good inclusion to the game?

[kingts]

Enchantress is not a crap card. You're interpretation of her viability use is way off.
She negates all Ongoing effects, so anything in play with an ongoing effect is nullified. That is not weak by any means, in fact her power is vital as a second play move, so timing of her use should be critical. It is also when you play her.
IF Wong for example is allowed to continue, of course his mechanic will hurt you. Any Ongoing effect will kill you after the fact.
She is usually played late.
For example, A Zabu in play, 2 3 cost (4 cards) on the last turn, you can Enchantress in one lane with another 4 cost card in another. Game, set and match.

With Zabu, you are playing a 3/5 cost on turn 3 or even a 3 cost on turn for can be huge vs Ongoing depending deck themes. Even if you don't have Zabu, she can nullify some pretty powerful cards with Ongoing effects that can make or break a lane victory, which she is meant for.
Powerful cards like Ironman, Cage, Darkhawk, Goose, Armor, Wong, Patriot, and others that the player feels he has that lane secure, is lost, so if an Ongoing effect is in play, she can turn a match on a dime.
She prioritizes playing cards with Ongoing effects and stacking their abilities and then kills a match with her well timed play.

This rant tells me you don't get her usage or how powerful she is. She is one of three cards that can kill Ongoing decks if played correctly in the whole game.

She is vital to well timed play, if you play her too soon, then the opposing player can utilize Their Ongoing synergy after.

In Conquest, she is dangerous, and in ladder deadly. She is a one lane death trap if played right and kills all cascading Ongoing effects in other lanes.

Peace

[DiscoShark]

Originally posted by kingts:

Enchantress is not a crap card. You're interpretation of her viability use is way off.
She negates all Ongoing effects, so anything in play with an ongoing effect is nullified. That is not weak by any means, in fact her power is vital as a second play move, so timing of her use should be critical. It is also when you play her.
IF Wong for example is allowed to continue, of course his mechanic will hurt you. Any Ongoing effect will kill you after the fact.
She is usually played late.
For example, A Zabu in play, 2 3 cost (4 cards) on the last turn, you can Enchantress in one lane with another 4 cost card in another. Game, set and match.

With Zabu, you are playing a 3/5 cost on turn 3 or even a 3 cost on turn for can be huge vs Ongoing depending deck themes. Even if you don't have Zabu, she can nullify some pretty powerful cards with Ongoing effects that can make or break a lane victory, which she is meant for.
Powerful cards like Ironman, Cage, Darkhawk, Goose, Armor, Wong, Patriot, and others that the player feels he has that lane secure, is lost, so if an Ongoing effect is in play, she can turn a match on a dime.
She prioritizes playing cards with Ongoing effects and stacking their abilities and then kills a match with her well timed play.
This rant tells me you don't get her usage or how powerful she is. She is one of three cards that can kill Ongoing decks if played correctly in the whole game.

She is vital to well timed play, if you play her too soon, then the opposing player can utilize Their Ongoing synergy after.

In Conquest, she is dangerous, and in ladder deadly. She is a one lane death trap if played right and kills all cascading Ongoing effects in other lanes.

Peace :Garrison:

You misinterpreted the post. OP is saying that Enchantress is so good that she's unfair.

[kingts]

Originally posted by DiscoShark:

Originally posted by kingts:

Enchantress is not a crap card. You're interpretation of her viability use is way off.
She negates all Ongoing effects, so anything in play with an ongoing effect is nullified. That is not weak by any means, in fact her power is vital as a second play move, so timing of her use should be critical. It is also when you play her.
IF Wong for example is allowed to continue, of course his mechanic will hurt you. Any Ongoing effect will kill you after the fact.
She is usually played late.
For example, A Zabu in play, 2 3 cost (4 cards) on the last turn, you can Enchantress in one lane with another 4 cost card in another. Game, set and match.

With Zabu, you are playing a 3/5 cost on turn 3 or even a 3 cost on turn for can be huge vs Ongoing depending deck themes. Even if you don't have Zabu, she can nullify some pretty powerful cards with Ongoing effects that can make or break a lane victory, which she is meant for.
Powerful cards like Ironman, Cage, Darkhawk, Goose, Armor, Wong, Patriot, and others that the player feels he has that lane secure, is lost, so if an Ongoing effect is in play, she can turn a match on a dime.
She prioritizes playing cards with Ongoing effects and stacking their abilities and then kills a match with her well timed play.
This rant tells me you don't get her usage or how powerful she is. She is one of three cards that can kill Ongoing decks if played correctly in the whole game.

She is vital to well timed play, if you play her too soon, then the opposing player can utilize Their Ongoing synergy after.

In Conquest, she is dangerous, and in ladder deadly. She is a one lane death trap if played right and kills all cascading Ongoing effects in other lanes.

Peace

You misinterpreted the post. OP is saying that Enchantress is so good that she's unfair.

Ahh, ok, sorry, missed that. Yep she is dangerous. apologies.

[Noisy]

because ongoing

[[JBT] Flash Gordon]

Yup, what Kingts said is correct. She's so good she's unfair. A four cost that completely annihilates a location.
Cosmo can be defeted. You simply pile on high power cards. But not Enchantress, She's a last turn play four cost, which is almost unique (Shang Chi is also such, but he has a very specific use).

I seriously despise Enchantress

[Si]

She's an important counter card. Ongoing can be so strong a counter is needed. She's a 4/5 so that's a downside, you have to use your turn 5 to play a weaker card than you maybe wanted to play in order to counter ongoing effects.

Just don't stack all your ongoing in one lane, she can only attack one location.

[Perfect Cell]

Place cosmo, enchantress won't work then.

[SILENCE UK]

counter cards exists, learn to play around them. also SA words have no place in gaming

[Taonath]

Originally posted by JBT Flash Gordon:

So, any clues why the design team thought such a rape card would be a good inclusion to the game?

Probably because anyone with even a slight understanding of the game can play around her with ease.

[laveley]

Enchantress is a niche card and is healthy to the game; you wouldn't want to play against destroyer ongoing decks 10 out of 10 times.

[Raster]

Put your Ongoing cards in different locations to keep from being totally locked out by her. It's part of the strategy. Or, put an Ongoing with an ability you like with an Ongoing you don't like, such as Zabu with Typhoid Mary.

If they play Enchantress, they'll help you, making them really weigh if they want to make that play when your Darkhawk or Devil Dino are waiting on Turn 6. If all your eggs are in one basket, they can be crushed easily. This card encourages you to diversify.

[King Bogs]

is this another skill issue post..?

[Puke87]

i think he just wants to drop down whatever whombo combo he wants. disregard that defense is a thing. he wants to score high numbers

[FMJunkie]

Enchantress is one of my favourite cards, and definitely not OP as she effects your side of the lane too.