Galactus BAN.

[Zangetsu]

Galactus is definitely the most unfair card in the whole game, impossible to stop or only with 2 very specific anti-Galactus decks, which is making this game incredibly boring.

Not only playing against him but also playing with him, always the same all the time to farm cubes, G+Spiderman, G+Nimrod, G+Knull, you only need 2 maybe 3 cards to win every game, without any strategy or even thinking about it... is sooo fricking LAME!.

I'm considering stop playing because there is no balance about this card and i don't see any intention to do it, it's ruining the playing experience for those who try to play with different NO META decks... to see more and more clone decks over and over and over again... it's getting very boring.

Peace out.

[VastGirth]

Galactus is the worst because he renders all other play obsolete. No other card does this. He is the only card i get annoyed by losing against. The whole game would be better if he was removed.

[Wipkonijntje]

and he keeps dodging a rework cause hes a big bad.

[Lady MacBeth]

Originally posted by Wipkonijntje:

and he keeps dodging a rework cause hes a big bad.

Supposedly hes getting one on the 13th. Theirs a post from glenn saying the idea of galactus always having priority wasn't clean enough.

"We did consider it, but dismissed it. It's not an elegant change, makes the text a lot longer, and pushes players to play even more Shang-Chi and Enchantress."

Which would indicate something else is happening then what I thought they were gonna do.

[jsauce]

I keep going back to how do you make Galactus a better card. I say better because while Galactus feels like he is unfair, its really not Galactus that is the problem. It's the other cards that are being used to make Galactus unfair.

Galactus feels like a cheat card the way he is designed right now.

I think the way to fix him is to make him The proper World Ender. He should be beatable but he should not be able to benefit from other cards in the game. My rework would go like this:

Galactus 1/0

Galactus cannot be played after turn 5. Galactus ignores cards and locations that will affect his cost.
When Galactus is played, remove from the game all other cards in all locations, and destroy the other locations. No other cards can be added to the location Galactus is in on his side.

Galactus gets a +1 for each card that was removed in this way.
Galactus cannot be destroyed, removed or otherwise have his power reduced or affected.


So that is how I would fix Galactus. He is meant to be a big bad, this way he would feel like a Big Bad. He is the World Ender, and right now he doesn't feel like that at all. He feels like a cheat. This would stop Knull or Spiderman being played. And Wave becomes useless for him. It also stops anything like Wolverine or Nimrod being used with him.

Galactus will stand on his own, you either win with him using the power he collects by consuming everything or you lose.

He cannot be Shang-Chi'd or Valkyrie'd or anything else that would make him weak. Now you would need to beat him with Brute Force. You would need to have more power on your side than he has on his standing alone. The way the game is meant to be played. Because he can be played on any turn up to 5. The opponent always has a chance to beat him.

[Zlehtnoba]

This is interesting, but way too wordy to be implemented.

One suggestion I liked is to use his connection with the Heralds. Keep the current effect, but instead of him being the only card at the location, there must be one of his heralds there for the effect to go off. This would make him way more interesting.

[lufia22]

Galactus is easy to counter, but the problem is the deck is so predictable it'll always just be a 1 cube loss, so no one cares to counter him.

[Whytea]

Galactus is fine as it is, as long as you know how to counter it. The deck is really predictable. Speaking of nerfs, I'd love to see Iron Lad nerfed to 4/4. Current 6 power for 4 cost is way too much for the effect, IMO.

[jsauce]

Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:

This is interesting, but way too wordy to be implemented.

One suggestion I liked is to use his connection with the Heralds. Keep the current effect, but instead of him being the only card at the location, there must be one of his heralds there for the effect to go off. This would make him way more interesting.

Wordy cards are kind of part of every card game. Now Marvel Snap has gotten by so far without explaining much on cards, but the more complex the game becomes the more necessary, otherwise people will find themselves in a situation with a card and not know what is going to happen, and that is where a card with a good set of instructions on the card itself would help.

MTG for example has hundreds of cards where the card itself has tons of text on it. While sometimes its a pain to read it all, its effective when it comes to rules and knowing what a card can specifically do.

I do not think that Second Dinner will be able to get away with one line of text on a card forever. Might as well fix Galactus with some real rules on the card itself.

[jsauce]

Originally posted by Whytea:

Galactus is fine as it is, as long as you know how to counter it. The deck is really predictable. Speaking of nerfs, I'd love to see Iron Lad nerfed to 4/4. Current 6 power for 4 cost is way too much for the effect, IMO.

This would be fine if the game played with a larger deck. You only have 12 cards for a deck, because of this, it limits how many decks can be made if you need a counter for every specific annoying card, and putting in say a Cosmo or a Polaris means that you have to take something out of your deck that might be synergistic with the rest of the deck. You really think that the answer to beating specific cards is to always include tech cards?

It's impossible. Instead of being able to have a game with a diverse set of cards, everyone would just play the same 3 or 4 cards to deal with the ♥♥♥♥ cards in the game and then try to make a deck around it. Which would be terrible for the meta because it means that maybe only a few viable decks can be made.

No, the answer to defeating nasty broken cards is not to use counter cards, the problem remains in the card, so it needs to be fixed.

[laveley]

Originally posted by jsauce:

Originally posted by Whytea:

Galactus is fine as it is, as long as you know how to counter it. The deck is really predictable. Speaking of nerfs, I'd love to see Iron Lad nerfed to 4/4. Current 6 power for 4 cost is way too much for the effect, IMO.

This would be fine if the game played with a larger deck. You only have 12 cards for a deck, because of this, it limits how many decks can be made if you need a counter for every specific annoying card, and putting in say a Cosmo or a Polaris means that you have to take something out of your deck that might be synergistic with the rest of the deck. You really think that the answer to beating specific cards is to always include tech cards?

It's impossible. Instead of being able to have a game with a diverse set of cards, everyone would just play the same 3 or 4 cards to deal with the ♥♥♥♥ cards in the game and then try to make a deck around it. Which would be terrible for the meta because it means that maybe only a few viable decks can be made.

No, the answer to defeating nasty broken cards is not to use counter cards, the problem remains in the card, so it needs to be fixed.

You will need one or two control or tech cards in any reasonably competitive deck anyways.

Combo decks that don't have any interaction whatsoever with the opponent side of the board and rely solely on point vomiting as win condition have always been and will always be bad decks in this game.

[nWo89 - The Exalted One]

That sweet tears of suffering <3

[jsauce]

Originally posted by laveley:

You will need one or two control or tech cards in any reasonably competitive deck anyways.

Combo decks that don't have any interaction whatsoever with the opponent side of the board and rely solely on point vomiting as win condition have always been and will always be bad decks in this game.

The problem is there are too many decks not enough tech cards for them all. So you load up your deck to defeat Galactus and instead you play against something "not" Galactus. My point is that tech isn't the way to counter things of this nature. In every card game the answer remains the same, fix the card. Now if every deck played the sameway and there were only 2 ways to counter any deck, then sure you could put the same two tech in your deck to counter it, but it doesn't work like that. Again because of the limited nature of the deck, the answer isn't to force someone to put cards in there deck they may not use, but rather fix the actual problem.

[laveley]

Originally posted by jsauce:

Originally posted by laveley:

You will need one or two control or tech cards in any reasonably competitive deck anyways.

Combo decks that don't have any interaction whatsoever with the opponent side of the board and rely solely on point vomiting as win condition have always been and will always be bad decks in this game.

The problem is there are too many decks not enough tech cards for them all. So you load up your deck to defeat Galactus and instead you play against something "not" Galactus. My point is that tech isn't the way to counter things of this nature. In every card game the answer remains the same, fix the card. Now if every deck played the sameway and there were only 2 ways to counter any deck, then sure you could put the same two tech in your deck to counter it, but it doesn't work like that. Again because of the limited nature of the deck, the answer isn't to force someone to put cards in there deck they may not use, but rather fix the actual problem.

No you don't tech specifically for Galactus. You tech because you don't want to play a simple point vomiting crap deck. If you are constantly loosing to Galactus, than you will constantly loose to any other decent deck out there, you just remember Galactus because he is more frustrating to loose against.

[Sawatis]

u mad bro

[Sawatis]

Originally posted by Arukādo:

This is very annoying, 50% games are against Galactus decks.
Devs have to do something about it quickly.
Also I don't understand the Snap community, why would you play Galactus in first place? There is no fun at all. Are 50% Snap players this dumb?
I already know how to counter it but this is beyond stupidity right now.

ive litterally never seen another person use galactus deck