Losing streak (NOT BUYING YOUR BATTLEPASS OR OTHER OFFERS!)

[PSN]

I am wondering how much have you programmed this game of yours to make me lose in order to buy your battlepass.
I am currently down from level 98 to 92 in a losing streak. Not 1 game won !
I will keep playing to see when I will eventually (IF I WILL) Win a game...if not... Uninstall and bye bye forever.

[Reaper]

Първоначално публикувано от Doovies:

Първоначално публикувано от Reaper:

If you think for a second how many influencers on the internet take steroids claiming they are all natty/drug free to sell programs,vitamins(lmao) you can understand how many serial liars there are on this planet and how bad the situations over all on the web in general. When people calls em out they do the same exact thing (you dont have proofs). You guys trying to defend are quite hilarius tbh cos ofc if you dont believe devs statements you have to believe earth is flat, like this logic is so bad lol Videogames, like gym and so on are no different is full of people trying to sell products no matter the ethics. I could go on making examples i took this of the fitinfluencers cos its that evident i wanna see how you asking me proofs for this as well xD
Im talking for me doe, not saying what others said i fully agree on about how the game is "rigged". Who knows how it is set up with all the parameters they can touch on matchmaking,decks and whatever.

Was this run through Google translate or tumble dryer?

There's contradicting arguments in here 🤣

Oh you found me english not my first language. So?

[Reaper]

Първоначално публикувано от Doovies:

Първоначално публикувано от Reaper:

If you think for a second how many influencers on the internet take steroids claiming they are all natty/drug free to sell programs,vitamins(lmao) you can understand how many serial liars there are on this planet and how bad the situations over all on the web in general. When people calls em out they do the same exact thing (you dont have proofs). You guys trying to defend are quite hilarius tbh cos ofc if you dont believe devs statements you have to believe earth is flat, like this logic is so bad lol Videogames, like gym and so on are no different is full of people trying to sell products no matter the ethics. I could go on making examples i took this of the fitinfluencers cos its that evident i wanna see how you asking me proofs for this as well xD
Im talking for me doe, not saying what others said i fully agree on about how the game is "rigged". Who knows how it is set up with all the parameters they can touch on matchmaking,decks and whatever.

Was this run through Google translate or tumble dryer?

There's contradicting arguments in here 🤣

"If you don't beleive dev statements..."

"... I fully agree on about how game is rigged."

No i mean i dont fully agree with what others said. Im talking for me only.

[Doovies]

Първоначално публикувано от Reaper:

Първоначално публикувано от Doovies:

Was this run through Google translate or tumble dryer?

There's contradicting arguments in here 🤣

"If you don't beleive dev statements..."

"... I fully agree on about how game is rigged."

No i mean i dont fully agree with what others said. Im talking for me only.

I'm gonna be real here, hop off daddy's laptop. He'll surely be home soon.

[Reaper]

Първоначално публикувано от Doovies:

Първоначално публикувано от Reaper:

No i mean i dont fully agree with what others said. Im talking for me only.

I'm gonna be real here, hop off daddy's laptop. He'll surely be home soon.

You are new in this forum? I remember other names taking care of these discussions xD
Yea spam awards all you can do xd

[Helloween]

There are still people that believe that a pvp game is totally random when it comes to match making and match results. All PvP games want to keep players close to 50% win rate no matter how good or bad they are. Bad players probably reach around 46 to 50% and good players may reach 54% but never above that and it is not just maths. The game uses algorithm to keep everyone as happy as possible. That's why there is a deck/card match making based system and if you believe that this is just theory when I made a post about this (not topic, POST) explaining how to test it, guess what. They deleted my post. Start playing with a specific arhetype a couple of games. Then make a random deck and switch. You will notice a difference. Hearthstone is doing it too and guess what Ben Brode used to be HS director. Counter cards play a big factor in keeping your win ratio near 50% just like bad draws. With these two second dinner can affect your win ratio and make you win or lose more. It's not the season pass. You are having a losing streak because you were winning a lot and the algorithm is trying to balance your win ratio and bring you near 50%.

EVERY game has a win balance system. From FPS games like Call of duty to card games like Marvel Snap and Hearthstone.

[unlimitedskyuran]

I didn't buy this or the previous battle pass. Already in infinity. Stop making conspiracy theories.

[Doovies]

Първоначално публикувано от Helloween:

There are still people that believe that a pvp game is totally random when it comes to match making and match results

Please educate yourself. Cause you have numerous misconceptions and I don't think you have all the information.

- Here is the customer case study of Second Dinner from AWS...
https://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/second-dinner-nuverse-case-study/
- Here is a video advertisement of Second Dinner describing why they chose AWS Gamelift services...
https://youtu.be/wK2o5YZnVnw?si=yAg1sWZMvefn_r1Q
- Here is the Ruleset Schema Second Dinner uses as part of their AWS Gamelift service, Flexmatch...
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/gamelift/latest/flexmatchguide/match-ruleset-schema.html
- Here are the property definitions...
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/gamelift/latest/flexmatchguide/match-ruleset-property-definitions.html
- Here is the Ruleset restriction, denoting they can't be edited whilst in production, and the region limit of rulsets...
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/gamelift/latest/flexmatchguide/match-ruleset-schema.html


From the above, we can see that Second Dinner chose to purchase an over the counter solution. Thus limiting their potential to heavily modify the user experience. The benefit of using and purchasing a license was scalability, performance and freeing up engineers to have their time better spent working on other projects.

From the rulset examples provided by AWS as well as their instructions: It's clear deck based matchmaking, whilst been entirely plausible in its potential to be implemented, is impossible to coexist alongside actual player attributes used. CL, MMR and Rank. You won't find an opponent within the current queue time frames as consistently as people describe it to be with a multitude of player attributes been compared with this much scrutiny in such a small time, and in such small batches. To argue that deck based matchmaking exists is to also argue that MMR, CL and Rank play little no factor in determining your opponent. As in order to find you an opponent with the added scrutiny of comparing the cards in each other's decks through specific strings or values: They are entirely redundant metrics to compare based on wait distance limitations put in place before you are matched with bots after a search for an adequate player fails.

Also with the inability to edit a Ruleset whilst in use, SD must have a near omniscient magical ability to predict every card that they will ever create, their future OTA's and patch changes, and their eventual counters to keep this "deck based matchmaking working flawlessly for almost 2 Years. Suffice to say, this isn't the case.

- Here is an example tutorial if you want to check out the basics...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaR1CWictb4
- Here is an incident in 2023 explaining a perfect oppurtunity to implement a prevention in matchup that never occured (despite the presumed ability to do so)...
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/e9ys40dix4gmqp0ha2dqt/AD_VIqMGjto1gAESKKfNjwg?rlkey=g7pjmavx7b1gtmwyq9qhtsjw4&st=809zkmeg&dl=0
- Here are two tests of small sample sizes, but attempts none the less at actually compiling data...
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/10l08lb/mythbusters_does_matchmaking_care_what_deck_you/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/15un9rs/ive_begun_documenting_my_matches_to_see_if/
- Here are dev responses to questions on matchmaking...
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ls2lvgjpgq66plj37mnka/AH3ww1jxYSohZe9zrQgm80A?rlkey=oot8bmfmyqohn3mfg2a6fxzfd&st=8dgf6abt&dl=0
- Here is Ben Brodes response on the notion of Deck Based Matchmaking and the challenges of even attempting it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coDDgWaVlKY&t=5327s

[Si]

Първоначално публикувано от Helloween:

There are still people that believe that a pvp game is totally random when it comes to match making and match results. All PvP games want to keep players close to 50% win rate no matter how good or bad they are. Bad players probably reach around 46 to 50% and good players may reach 54% but never above that and it is not just maths. The game uses algorithm to keep everyone as happy as possible. That's why there is a deck/card match making based system and if you believe that this is just theory when I made a post about this (not topic, POST) explaining how to test it, guess what. They deleted my post. Start playing with a specific arhetype a couple of games. Then make a random deck and switch. You will notice a difference. Hearthstone is doing it too and guess what Ben Brode used to be HS director. Counter cards play a big factor in keeping your win ratio near 50% just like bad draws. With these two second dinner can affect your win ratio and make you win or lose more. It's not the season pass. You are having a losing streak because you were winning a lot and the algorithm is trying to balance your win ratio and bring you near 50%.

EVERY game has a win balance system. From FPS games like Call of duty to card games like Marvel Snap and Hearthstone.

Not just any PvP game, but a predatory mobile game lmao

It's like some people haven't been aware of how sleazy mobile apps have been over the past 15 years and what they do to keep you hooked.

[Si]

Първоначално публикувано от Reaper:

If you think for a second how many influencers on the internet take steroids claiming they are all natty/drug free to sell programs,vitamins(lmao) you can understand how many serial liars there are on this planet and how bad the situations over all on the web in general. When people calls em out they do the same exact thing (you dont have proofs). You guys trying to defend are quite hilarius tbh cos ofc if you dont believe devs statements you have to believe earth is flat, like this logic is so bad lol Videogames, like gym and so on are no different is full of people trying to sell products no matter the ethics. I could go on making examples i took this of the fitinfluencers cos its that evident i wanna see how you asking me proofs for this as well xD
Im talking for me doe, not saying what others said i fully agree on about how the game is "rigged". Who knows how it is set up with all the parameters they can touch on matchmaking,decks and whatever.
and its fun how even on other forums of cardgames there is always this "debate" when there is really nothing to debate on, just people blindly defending from an alrdy party taken, same exacts stuff over and over again and on the other side people exagerating sometimes with the claims they make.

The devs have actually been caught lying in the past, about things they said and balance decisions, so its strange some people think its impossible for them to lie.

[Si]

Първоначално публикувано от Ydrisselle:

Първоначално публикувано от Si:

Posted numbers for months, but y'all stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it doesn't exist

*shrugs"

Numbers which you didn't back up. If I say I have a serious losing streak and went from level 89 to level 80 in a week and I'm quite furious now I can show you how that happened. You being on Linux doesn't mean it's impossible to get a tracker working to prove your numbers - right now your word is the only "proof" which means it's either true or it's not.

Simply we don't trust your word and you didn't show data.

Lmao that's exactly what I said. That there's no point me posting more numbers because if it goes against what you believe you'll never believe it.

This has been the Second Dinner Defense Force's MO for a long time now.

SDDF: "Your claims mean nothing without numbers, show us numbers."

Me *shows numbers*

SDDF: "We don't believe those numbers"

You've rigged the argument so that you can't lose lmao

Also if you can find a working tracker on Linux let me know. I love how you just claim there is one wtf lmfao I have searched high and low and have not found one which works but since you ssy its possible, why don't you link me to one? I would appreciate it greatly.

[Ydrisselle]

Първоначално публикувано от Si:

Първоначално публикувано от Ydrisselle:

Numbers which you didn't back up. If I say I have a serious losing streak and went from level 89 to level 80 in a week and I'm quite furious now I can show you how that happened. You being on Linux doesn't mean it's impossible to get a tracker working to prove your numbers - right now your word is the only "proof" which means it's either true or it's not.

Simply we don't trust your word and you didn't show data.

Lmao that's exactly what I said. That there's no point me posting more numbers because if it goes against what you believe you'll never believe it.

This has been the Second Dinner Defense Force's MO for a long time now.

SDDF: "Your claims mean nothing without numbers, show us numbers."

Me *shows numbers*

SDDF: "We don't believe those numbers"

You've rigged the argument so that you can't lose lmao

Also if you can find a working tracker on Linux let me know. I love how you just claim there is one wtf lmfao I have searched high and low and have not found one which works but since you ssy its possible, why don't you link me to one? I would appreciate it greatly.

The trackers are Windows programs - so use a Win emulator of your choice to get them working. At least one. Then you will have data to show because right now it's only your word without hard data. My words are backed up:
- https://marvelsnap.pro/u/Ydrisselle%2358424/
- https://snap.untapped.gg/en/profile/753a0c10-de04-4867-9fee-069f979ef42b/c2424760-5bc6-4d98-b84f-359b76582b58?playerRank=AllRanks&rankRange=10-100&sortBy=mostRecent&timeRange=last7days

As you can see, my last week was rough. MarvelSnap.pro is botched because it's not filtering High Voltage, Conquest and ladder, but Untapped.gg does.

[Clockeye]

Първоначално публикувано от Doovies:

Първоначално публикувано от Clockeye:

LMAO, no it's not. This game is very predicable, once you learn all the garbage cheating the game throws at you to make sure you lose. I can tell what I'll draw, oppo will play, whether or not it's a guarantee loss, etc. by turn 3. If you can't, then maybe stop having your head in the sand?

If the game is ensuring you are losing, then what is the differential that separates you from your opponents? Why is the game ensuring they are winning? What's the circumstance?

Money and EOMM

[Si]

One thing I will add...

I once mentioned that games can be bugged without anybody realizing, I explained an example I had seen in a previous game where I knew something was off but it took over half a year for it to catch on and become fixed.

In snap we recently discovered that ink/gold split rates we're reduced unintentionally. Most players never noticed but it happened, and it was pointed out because someone had obviously done a lot of splits and had an inkling something was....off.

The devs recently discussed a situation they had where Maria Hill (who at the time added a random 1 or 2 cost card to your hand) was only ever adding 1 drops. The devs said at first they dismissed reports of her being bugged, assuming players just didn't know how she worked, but eventually they caught on that she was actually bugged and would not drop a 2 cost card no matter what.

Both these events are a supposed "random" outcome. Both were unintentionally bugged and thus not actually operating at the odds players and developers were expecting.

This is the problem with a videogame, especially one with such buggy code. Without being able to audit the source code nobody here can say with certainty that what we're expecting to happen based on what we have been told, is actually going to happen.

Thus far in High Voltage I have seen many Morph plays and every single time I have predicted exactly which card they were going to get. This shouldn't be possible. Is Morph truly random? Who knows, who would even know if it'd not, whether that was intentional or not.

Food for thought.

[Si]

Първоначално публикувано от Ydrisselle:

Първоначално публикувано от Si:

Lmao that's exactly what I said. That there's no point me posting more numbers because if it goes against what you believe you'll never believe it.

This has been the Second Dinner Defense Force's MO for a long time now.

SDDF: "Your claims mean nothing without numbers, show us numbers."

Me *shows numbers*

SDDF: "We don't believe those numbers"

You've rigged the argument so that you can't lose lmao

Also if you can find a working tracker on Linux let me know. I love how you just claim there is one wtf lmfao I have searched high and low and have not found one which works but since you ssy its possible, why don't you link me to one? I would appreciate it greatly.

The trackers are Windows programs - so use a Win emulator of your choice to get them working. At least one. Then you will have data to show because right now it's only your word without hard data. My words are backed up:
- https://marvelsnap.pro/u/Ydrisselle%2358424/
- https://snap.untapped.gg/en/profile/753a0c10-de04-4867-9fee-069f979ef42b/c2424760-5bc6-4d98-b84f-359b76582b58?playerRank=AllRanks&rankRange=10-100&sortBy=mostRecent&timeRange=last7days

As you can see, my last week was rough. MarvelSnap.pro is botched because it's not filtering High Voltage, Conquest and ladder, but Untapped.gg does.

I am not under any circumstances installing the malware that is Windows. Not even in a virtual machine.

If you were referring to something like WINE (Not quite sure what you meant) then I have tried Wine and could still not get any trackers to work.

I tried...

Untapped
Marvelsnapzone
Snap.fan
Another one I found somewhere I think?
And one from github which was supposedly for Linux (but it was quite old, with old dependencies)

None worked.

[Ydrisselle]

Първоначално публикувано от Si:

Първоначално публикувано от Ydrisselle:

The trackers are Windows programs - so use a Win emulator of your choice to get them working. At least one. Then you will have data to show because right now it's only your word without hard data. My words are backed up:
- https://marvelsnap.pro/u/Ydrisselle%2358424/
- https://snap.untapped.gg/en/profile/753a0c10-de04-4867-9fee-069f979ef42b/c2424760-5bc6-4d98-b84f-359b76582b58?playerRank=AllRanks&rankRange=10-100&sortBy=mostRecent&timeRange=last7days

As you can see, my last week was rough. MarvelSnap.pro is botched because it's not filtering High Voltage, Conquest and ladder, but Untapped.gg does.

I am not under any circumstances installing the malware that is Windows. Not even in a virtual machine.

Wine. Or whatever.