MARVEL SNAP

MARVEL SNAP

ThunderHawk Nov 25, 2024 @ 2:37am
Deadpool's Diner
It is pretty much impossible as a casual player to get the highest reward i dont have the cards to make meta decks and lose 90% of the time who tought this was a good idea not even close to fun
Last edited by ThunderHawk; Nov 25, 2024 @ 2:37am
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Wipkonijntje Nov 25, 2024 @ 3:04am 
just ignore the diner;
bad rewards and the card isn't even good at all.

u miss nothing by skipping this.
Si Nov 25, 2024 @ 3:29am 
Its not meant to be fun, its meant to frustrate people into paying money to progress.

If people have fun while playing it more power to them but that's not the priority.
ThunderHawk Nov 25, 2024 @ 4:03am 
really sad its this way
Bibouland Nov 25, 2024 @ 7:50am 
just leave the game, they want us to be frustrated
Stranger Nov 25, 2024 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by Bibouland:
just leave the game, they want us to be frustrated

I am pretty close to that point. I thought the game was kind of bad before, it is almost amusingly worse now. I just spent the last forty or so minutes going through all the bubs I got last night and lost every match except one where someone quit at the beginning.

This event is just trash and it looks like it may be where the devs are taking the game.
Last edited by Stranger; Nov 25, 2024 @ 8:22am
kingts Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:25am 
Okay, let's all take a deep breath. You are playing a ton of bots here, and simply pick a solid deck and understand deck recognition is the key to snap.
If you are struggling with this, pick a solid theme, Destroy, Discard (Hela), Arishem, whatever, and if you are new to the game, and playing either mid or low level, then you must understand that its simply win two lanes, get a deck tracker, like untapped.gg which is free and that the game if your new, has a ton to learn, from every location, to every possible out scenario in percentages play. Keep your themes simple, so they play to higher percentages on curve or not.

A nice deck for this construct for example, and its just one.
CAP RECRUITS JEAN- a very simply solid concept for it contains three powerful tech cards. I lent this to my daughter who did just fine.

(CAP RECRUITS JEAN)
JEAN GREY
COSMO
ARMOR
MOJO
ECHO
US AGENT
IRONMAN
ANTMAN
CAP
PUNISHER
SPECTRUM
IRONLAD

Very easy, very simple On going themed concept and if you get Jean Grey out on curve with Cosmo to follow on turn 4. A huge problem for them. You simply pile in one lane, and Iron man Spectrum the other, and it plays wonderfully off curve, but also keep in mind your goal is two lanes, not spreading. There are many decks and cards that you must recognize that can challenge this one concept idea, but most of the time. They don't see it and the bots cannot handle that lock down. You can replace one card if you feel you need another tech counter, Like a Red Guardian, Shang-Chi or Rogue, to handle say a Cage, or massive power. Up to you, but its not a sprint.

If you see say Super-Skrull, or they fill Jean Grey's lane before you do (doubtful, but it can happen). Your locking down one lane, and be free in another and it does not matter if your slightly down in that one piled up lane, for spectrum will ruin their day. If your playing force move, and you don't have Cosmo or Jean escape. I mean need to be patient and smart.

Don't overthink Diner, its simply about snapping, beating the bot and moving to the next food, and then simply grinding to the top which does not take long.
Any meta deck will be a problem. IF you don't have some of these cards. Plenty of Ongoing substitutes. Some use War-machine, with Maw, some pick other ongoing cards, but keep it simple.

And that is just ONE archetype idea gang.

Hela Discard, another solid deck because it can draw massive power. Thanos 10-power is solid. Arishem Blob Dark hawk, Clog Hawk, all good decks.

Just try and have fun, if your not having fun, then don't do it, do something else.
Not the end of the world :dwarven:
Last edited by kingts; Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:35am
Alcatraz Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:36am 
I'm very close to give up, I don't need King Eitri anyway. The game mode is stupid. Lose ONE match at the highest stake and you must wait 7-8 hours for the next opportunity. Now I won 2 matches, lost the 3rd and ZERO bubs as usual. I'm at 3.1 million bubs and climbing to 15 million is a hell of a job! Not worth for a card I will not use.

Last time I got all the way to the end, but then the prize was at least Cassandra Nova, which I wanted, so I tried harder. I really don't feel like it now. Too much stress for a little reward.
Last edited by Alcatraz; Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:38am
Stranger Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by kingts:

JEAN GREY
COSMO
ARMOR
MOJO
ECHO
US AGENT
IRONMAN
ANTMAN
CAP
PUNISHER
SPECTRUM
IRONLAD

Everything is easy if you can do it. Of that deck you listed I am missing Jean Grey, Mojo, Echo, US Agent, and Ironlad -and I have maybe four or five months total game time spread across a year.

That is the problem.

This game isn't for new players. The gap between new players and established is a gulf and the distance between them is accelerating faster than it can be bridged, New players don't have any way to compete and the devs have chosen to ignore the new player mid-game experience in preference to catering to their established, paying, base -that is how these games die. They probably think it will just encourage new players to spend money, but that isn't how it works. People don't invest in something they don't enjoy. They might buy a season pass or two at first, but they will quickly figure out what the game model is and they will drop the game altogether, and so will everyone else as soon as something better comes a long. Hell, if it weren't such a dry period between games for me II wouldn't even be here. Chances are I will pick up something during the Black Friday sale on Steam and walk away from this game altogether myself.
Alcatraz Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:40am 
Originally posted by kingts:
Okay, let's all take a deep breath. You are playing a ton of bots here

And how do you know that? I don't have the feeling I'm playing against bots at all!
Wipkonijntje Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:42am 
streamer letterly ragequitted diner cause of losing to cheat bots.
kingts Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:48am 
Originally posted by Alcatraz:
Originally posted by kingts:
Okay, let's all take a deep breath. You are playing a ton of bots here

And how do you know that? I don't have the feeling I'm playing against bots at all!
depends where your at Alc, you know that. Hard to tell if I am speaking to rage here from new player views to Diner, or inexperience overall. I just tried to keep it positive and simple. Yeah I hear ya Alc, I was just trying to help.
My two daughters did not bother with the mode.
Players have no issue giving deck ideas to help either.

It is not a popular mode. I do think many don't like it. Whether its the grind or whatever and most that reach the end stop doing it, so it does increase the bots as more bow out of the mode follow.
I will say it again, big difference between a Cheat Bot and a Bot. Understand the difference.
I personally think they did not learn from the first time they did this.

I am not getting dragged into a back and forth with players who don't like the mode. Your raging against the machine here. Raging for crap. I will not convince players to like something.

Take the ranting to them would be my best advice. Go on their discord. Let them have it.
I gave you ONE possible deck construct. Play top decks and keep it simple.
The prizes are not worth the aggravation if your getting pissed off. Don't play it.

You do you.
Last edited by kingts; Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:54am
Alcatraz Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by kingts:
I will say it again, big difference between a Cheat Bot and a Bot. Understand the difference.

Unfortunately, you don't need cheat bots at all to not progress in this mode. As I wrote before, in order to get to the next level up (when your refill increases 10 times) you have to win some 5-6 matches in a row (maybe more) playing full stake. If you fail and lose just ONE match in that streak, you go back to 0 bubs and have to wait 8 hours to try again. I got to the "Blind Al's Jello" (409.6k) tier pretty quickly, and I can't seem to get off it. The next level up is only at 30 million, and there's no way I'll reach it soon, because I don't see how I can win so many matches IN A ROW. I win most of the matches, but in this game mode you must win ALL of them!

Last time I got to the top (500 million) with both my first and my second account, and I don't understand HOW! Now it seems almost impossible to reach 15 million. :/
Last edited by Alcatraz; Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:58am
kingts Nov 25, 2024 @ 11:02am 
@ ALC

No I hear, ya. They are getting hammered on this very point for crap really. They improved the clarity of it. It is a free mode, but I did not have this issue, but that is me.

Its a poker mode where you pay dearly to gamble. I would take a more cautious approach.
The grind of this is not worth it. Especially for King Etri. My teen daughters hate the mode. That is saying something.

See here is the thing, You want your customers to have these rewards, but then you make it super hard that you break the golden rule of gacha development. YOU NEVER PISS OFF YOUR CUSTOMERS, and yet they will continue to pull these kind of nonsense.
However, also remember as humans, we have allowed this practice. We are okay with them charging for illusionary things and they will have strong competition soon. I touched on this on proposed Gacha changes that will be in front of these gaming boards soon. However that is a different subject, but it feeds to the reasons these companies do this.

I have sat in those meetings. Hey guys we are losing players, lets' come up with something to make the game fun and entice them to play more, to the next very day.

Why is our profit margins down, why aren't our lots selling and the two don't mix sometimes. Its money first.

I would just pick a strong Meta deck you are great at and take it slowly. I am not going to lecture you on what you should play brother.

Please gang, do not take my comments as telling you what to do. I can help, but I am not going to sit here and curve your rage. Just don't play it.

@Stranger-Well, no it is f2p, but the grind is very hard now for new players. It will take a long time to garnish all the cards, but it can be done. You must save all your gold, get 4 keys above, don't even open your gold cache lots until your 30 or more. I have over one thousand now.
So you are right, you are not me. That being said to all of you. Why do you play, when there really is nothing to win, all illusion in a skins card game.
You do you stranger, if your not having fun, play something else man. All good.

In time you will get most of the cards free, variants make no difference. If you are new, your still going through the Series Three, but there are strong deck constructs to help you climb higher. I give tips here all the time to new players.
Darkhawk-Clog is one. Sera Surfer another, Patriot-Ultron Ramp-Doom another, Hela Discard another strong deck that newer players can attain. Keep it simple.

HELA
GIGANTO
INFINAUT
MAGNETO
BLADE
LADY SIF
CAGE
very simple, and add what you feel are solid additions, some add Ghost Rider to back up Hela, or Jubilee to pull more power earlier. keep it simple to balance trigger to power. Hellcow, BlackCat, Some go 5-six costs, but I like 4, to control the out of curve issue.

SERA SURFER
SERA
SURFER
FORGE
BROOD
ABSORB MAN

and then look at your 3-costs and pick a solid 6 in your deck. Wong Surfer Sera are usually better for early game players since it has a strong payoff when executed.

ZOO RAMP is another good deck because it has benefited from newer card additions, but you may not have those. Hela recall power is another, but in this game you must recognize what decks your up against and understand that the 6 archetypes and 16 sub archetypes are not equal. Some are stronger than others, so recognition is vital to the game.

and all of you. If Deadpool's Diner is truly angering you and your not having fun.
Don't play it, King Etri is not worth the hate.

Take it to them. I will move on gang.

be well
Last edited by kingts; Nov 25, 2024 @ 3:20pm
Si Nov 25, 2024 @ 3:01pm 
Originally posted by Wipkonijntje:
streamer letterly ragequitted diner cause of losing to cheat bots.
I'm not surprised. They can see plays in advance.

I was dominating a discard deck, had ironman on Nexus. Anyone could tell that was a loss and to retreat.

Bot plays gambit to a side lane. Hits the ironman winning them the game.

No real player would risk max bubs on a once in a million shot like that. But we know bots can see the plays in advance. It stayed because it knew the outcome.

Oh and yeah, the bots are genuinely in alliances. This is confirmed now. Seen 2 blatant bots today in alliances. Again dont take my word for it check for yourselves.
BadrO_RambO Nov 25, 2024 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by Wipkonijntje:
streamer letterly ragequitted diner cause of losing to cheat bots.
which streamer?
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