MARVEL SNAP

MARVEL SNAP

Zanth Nov 6, 2024 @ 6:16pm
Are some opponents bots?
Just curious to know if this game uses PCs as Bots to facilitate match making -- No problem here, if that's the case - the opposite, actually.

I always say "Hello" at the beginning of a match, and in about 100 matches, I can count on my two hands, minus thumbs (plus a digit or two), how often I receive a reply.

I'd prefer to think it's auto-play and not the over-all community that disregards this basic courtesy. I know that some will disregard it, but seven out of one hundred times?
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SSOutPhase Nov 6, 2024 @ 7:12pm 
Yes there are bots in the game on PC and mobile. Bots will ONLY be in the main game, not conquest and there are NO bots after you hit Infinite.

Some of the common tells of bots are:
  • Generic usernames like "Joshua, Spider-Man, Storm, Xavier," lamyysi334 or some other gibberish
  • If you snap and end the turn and the turn ends immediately, it is 100% guaranteed a bot. Against humans, there is a delay for them to end the turn.
  • Bots play old, garbage decks that don't make sense. Discard with America Chavez, Destroy with Angel, Warpath with Destroyer, Wave with Death, etc. They may also play the left lane very heavily.
  • Bots tend to snap on turn 5 if they have the lead in two lanes at the start of the turn.
  • Lastly, bots tend to have avatars that are the generic and base art of some cards. They cannot have an infinite avatar or a spotlight avatar.
groovador Nov 6, 2024 @ 7:56pm 
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there will be people coming here telling you bots can generate cards on the spot to beat you and that the game is rigged to make you lose. i advise you don't believe them, they are lunatics who should not be taken seriously.
Doovies Nov 6, 2024 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by groovador:
there will be people coming here telling you bots can generate cards on the spot to beat you and that the game is rigged to make you lose. i advise you don't believe them, they are lunatics who should not be taken seriously.

To back this up, no nvprod match data backs up these claims of bots adding cards to their hand or deck. There are no functions that provide cards to opponents through sequenced arrays outside of what is to be expected (like Daken generating Muramasa)

Any that suggest otherwise should be backing up their claims with the function in the JSON formatting that supports this theory.
Last edited by Doovies; Nov 6, 2024 @ 8:17pm
Ydrisselle Nov 6, 2024 @ 10:38pm 
There are people who block any emote right at the start of the match. They won't even see your "Hello!".
TK Nov 6, 2024 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by SSOutPhase:
Bots will ONLY be in the main game, not conquest[/list]
Ah so that is why sometimes it take a fu(king lifetime to get a match in conquest...
Last edited by TK; Nov 6, 2024 @ 11:50pm
Zlehtnoba Nov 7, 2024 @ 5:45am 
Originally posted by TK:
Originally posted by SSOutPhase:
Bots will ONLY be in the main game, not conquest[/list]
Ah so that is why sometimes it take a fu(king lifetime to get a match in conquest...

It's also not quite true, you can get bots in Proving Grounds and Silver.

The season just began, a lot of players are still playing mostly ladder.
Zanth Nov 7, 2024 @ 2:54pm 
Awesome. Thanks all. =)
Zanth Nov 7, 2024 @ 5:56pm 
That definitely helped! Especially the immediate play info. Really resets my thinking on how to proceed. Thanks again, all :steamhappy:
Bloodartist Nov 8, 2024 @ 12:15am 
Originally posted by Zanth:
Just curious to know if this game uses PCs as Bots to facilitate match making -- No problem here, if that's the case - the opposite, actually.

There are bots in the game 100%.

The purpose of the bots is to inject cubes into the economy (and to give beginners easier time). Since a match of marvel snap is zero sum in terms of cubes (loser loses the same amount as the winner wins) the cubes that new players need and the cubes that leave the game when someone stops playing have to come from somewhere.

Although bots have gotten sneakier in recent times, some old hints that you are playing a bot still apply:
- They often have default avatar (not from the shop or 'earned' in some way. A spotlight avatar means that your opponent is a human.)
- They often have a basic first name like "Tyler" or "James"
- they have weird cards or play them really poorly (A bot playing a move deck is often a comedic relief)
- Bots tend to snap on turn 5 if they are leading in two lanes. (this is key in milking maximum amount of cubes out of a bot). These days they might also leave if they are losing at that point.
- Bots used to favor the left lane, but Ive found that is no longer the case.
Last edited by Bloodartist; Nov 8, 2024 @ 12:20am
SSOutPhase Nov 8, 2024 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:
It's also not quite true, you can get bots in Proving Grounds and Silver.
The only bot I believe in conquest, is in your very first conquest game. I could be wrong about that but no dude... there are no bots in Proving Grounds or Silver. That's been debunked in the snap discord.

The only thing PG, Silver, Gold and Infinite changes is the MMR ranking of opponents you run into. The higher the level, the higher the rank/skill level of opponents you will encounter.
Zlehtnoba Nov 9, 2024 @ 12:21am 
Originally posted by SSOutPhase:
Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:
It's also not quite true, you can get bots in Proving Grounds and Silver.
The only bot I believe in conquest, is in your very first conquest game. I could be wrong about that but no dude... there are no bots in Proving Grounds or Silver. That's been debunked in the snap discord.

The only thing PG, Silver, Gold and Infinite changes is the MMR ranking of opponents you run into. The higher the level, the higher the rank/skill level of opponents you will encounter.

I searched the developer answers database, and found this:

You find one bot per tier, aside from infinite, the first time you enter that tier, and only the first time.

It could be old info though, the answer is from June 2023. It also does not say if this is per season, or overall first time.
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