guys i promise you they have algorithm that makes you lose games in order to pay them and get more cards.

[George Sheen]

it is clear now that this game is like a casino trying to squeeze money from all people that play. all locations are based on peoples cards and everything is defiatly not random. its all numbered properly so people lose and try to pay for extra cards . please be aware of that

[groovador]

Skill issue

[Si]

Originally posted by groovador:

Skill issue

How do you use skill to improve your card draws or generate locations that favour your deck?

(Either you can't, or you're cheating)

[Si]

And yes op, I have been shouting this from the rooftops for months. More and more people are coming to understand how blatantly rigged this game is.

[onedudesmind]

Originally posted by George Sheen:

it is clear now that this game is like a casino trying to squeeze money from all people that play. all locations are based on peoples cards and everything is definitely not random. its all numbered properly so people lose and try to pay for extra cards . please be aware of that

The algorithm is built to keep you playing, You can still lose and win in streak (with free will and all), But generally it seems to keep you pretty even on the wins and losses up to a point, I have found if i play for more than an hour or so i just start losing over and over reguardless of what decks i play(maybe i'm advancing my pass to quickly). I play this game every day and it is not random who you face, and they amount of time you play is also a factor. I run about 5 decks regularly (CL 11k, i am only missing a handful of cards) the cards that are in your deck do(but not always) have an effect on who you go against. The MM system prioritizes getting you into a match quickly, then who you fight (look up the info on how amazons matchmaking works its boring but all the info is there). So if you play when there are less players online you will have more random matches, play during a time with a lot of people and you will get match made to whomever they want you too. Again all of this info is out there, it really isn't hard to find just boring to read through.

[Si]

Deadpools diner has really exposed how bad it is.

I just went on the bighest losing streak I've ever had. arishem vs arishem. They drew better. Every game. Every single game. Like 30 games and they kept drawing better. They consistently got all their counters, or good cards to play. I often had nothing but a hand full of 5-6 costs and nothing to play, or it would generate nothing but low power crap.

So I switch decks, a kitty/angela deck and again, never draw any of the good or low curve cards, just the high cost cards.

Every arishem deck I went against drew amazing.

A few negative decks all got ravonna into negative, or negative into jane foster.

Every single darkhawk deck without exception drew Korg turn 1, and drew darkhawk every game. How is that even possible? I stopped plaging Darkhawk because I could never draw him.

The few games I had a good hand locations like weird world, the peak and sakaar came to ruin it. Sakaar consistently giving the opponents better cards.

Go against a hign evo deck and I had luke cage, so it switches hands because it does that a lot, if you have the counter to a deck it forces the switch.

So it gives me 2 pity bots who are dumb as rocks and coincidentally both games I draw perfect. the only games. That settles it as to whether or not the game manipupates your draw. When it wants you to win it gives you the good curve, when it wants you to lose it gives you the crap.

Mathemateically the odds of all these opponents having the perfect curve for each of their respective decks is unrealistically low, yet it happens the moment you set foot in the higher brackets of the diner.

No wonder they're asking people to invite new players now. I'm guessing Europe is dying and thats why there are so many of the cheating bots. That or its just straight up cheaters.

[Si]

Originally posted by onedudesmind:

I have found if i play for more than an hour or so i just start losing over and over reguardless of what decks i play(maybe i'm advancing my pass to quickly).

THIS!

This is exactly what just happened to me.

I have noticed this for months though. Again, 2 completely unrelated players with no previous discussions have independently come to the same conclusion based on the data and time with the game. It's no coincidence.

I never understood WHY they would want to stop people playing too long but now that makes sense.

I use to oen up the app and first few games where a breeze but eventually you would notice your draws went to ♥♥♥♥ and the opponents had the perfect curve every game. switching decks did nothing. You were against decks with perfect curves, and they drew every part of their combos.

[Arukādo]

Originally posted by Si:

Originally posted by onedudesmind:

I have found if i play for more than an hour or so i just start losing over and over reguardless of what decks i play(maybe i'm advancing my pass to quickly).

THIS!

This is exactly what just happened to me.

I have noticed this for months though. Again, 2 completely unrelated players with no previous discussions have independently come to the same conclusion based on the data and time with the game. It's no coincidence.

I never understood WHY they would want to stop people playing too long but now that makes sense.

I use to oen up the app and first few games where a breeze but eventually you would notice your draws went to ♥♥♥♥ and the opponents had the perfect curve every game. switching decks did nothing. You were against decks with perfect curves, and they drew every part of their combos.

Same here. When I started playing this morning (the Deadpool event) I was winning every game during 1 hour, then I started losing in streak against cheated Arishem bots.
I didn't surrend, I didn't pay anything, and hopefully I managed to obtain Cassandra today. It was HARDCORE farming, really, the game DOESN'T want you to win without paying money I'm pretty sure.

[Si]

Yeah its picking its winner right at the start.

The ongoing decks are getting ondlaughts citadel, the darkhawk decks keep getting knowehere to protect it, multiple destroy decks now each and every single one given a destroy location. Every time "the peak" has appeared it has crippled my deck (3 totally different decks) yet has given the opponent amazing cards (free blob, ironman etc)

It just stacks the odds against you every game abd you have to overcome them. Its so unfair and makes the game mode such a slow slog.

I havent paid a penny towards it....mayne thats the problem. I imagine the algorithim will try to force a loss, to encourage paying for more bubs.

This is nothing more than a crooked carnival game, where the hoops are just a little bit too small at the ring toss game.

[groovador]

Skill issue.

[SILENCE UK]

if this was true why don't streamers get affected the same way 6 hours into a stream?

nonsense

[Notch]

Originally posted by SILENCE UK:

if this was true why don't streamers get affected the same way 6 hours into a stream?

nonsense

That's easy, the game knows who they are and when they are streaming and they get the easy bots. That's your answer to anything. Somehow the AI knows all and is keeping these folks down while the rest of us enjoy normal gaming. Everything is explainable if you don't need evidence other than your own anecdotal evidence.
You can't defeat these folks with logic. These folks would never lose if not for the evil cheat bots. Just play along. You'll never convince them, so enjoy their rage.

[Si]

Originally posted by groovador:

Skill issue.

Not everyone has the skill to cheat you mean.

[Si]

Originally posted by Notch:

Originally posted by SILENCE UK:

if this was true why don't streamers get affected the same way 6 hours into a stream?

nonsense

That's easy, the game knows who they are and when they are streaming and they get the easy bots. That's your answer to anything. Somehow the AI knows all and is keeping these folks down while the rest of us enjoy normal gaming. Everything is explainable if you don't need evidence other than your own anecdotal evidence.
You can't defeat these folks with logic. These folks would never lose if not for the evil cheat bots. Just play along. You'll never convince them, so enjoy their rage.

Likewise, no matter how many come forward and report the same thing, you'll never believe it.

You could see opponents who draw perfect 100 games in a row for 100 days straight and you would still think its "just luck".

[Arukādo]

Originally posted by SILENCE UK:

if this was true why don't streamers get affected the same way 6 hours into a stream?

nonsense

Streamers are mostly paying and advertising the game, so yes.
Please read carefully what I wrote below.

I was on the other side during a long time, I was thinking the same as you Silence UK, I follow these forums since the beginning and you should already know I'm not the type of guy thinking about cheat on a server-side game...

You also know I play this game since the begining, my CL is currently 14900.
-> https://i.imgur.com/KzI9Fiw.png <-

Now I have to admit there are (at least) rigged/cheating Arishem bots. Every Arishem you will encounter on the Deadpool event is a cheating bot and will try to mimic players (even with emotes).
We definitely need to open our eyes on this, the game is manipulating luck based on your win/lose ratio and collection level (and even on the deck you are playing), the game is trying to force you to pay something (buds on Deadpool event, tokens to obtain a card you need, etc).

My experience:
1. Played my usual Negative Foster deck, but wasn't enough for the event so I tried other things
2. After some games I noticed more and more Arishem decks and they beat me everytime with "magical counter at the right moment"
3. I decided to focus on Arishem decks, so I created a "F*CK ARISHEM" deck to beat them
4. Even with this deck specially created to counter Arishem, they often managed to win with extreme luck (randomness of locations and Arishem random cards)
5. At this point I encountered ONLY Arishem decks on this event

So what's the issue here?
Just tell me... Is it normal to battle around 50 Arishem decks IN A ROW? I don't think so.
And I'm not lying, I played this morning during 3 hours, 3 hours against Arishem decks ONLY.

2 possibilities:
1. Everyone is playing this f*cker right now, 100% of the players (remember I tested this on 50 games IN A ROW)
2. They are cheating bots and the game didn't want me to win the event for free so it launched every hardcore bots on my face

I doubt the first one is possible. Pretty sure those who paid something didn't encounter 50 Arishem decks in a row...
Honestly I am very TIRED right now because of this intensive farming, but if you need proof I can record some games on the event with the exact same deck i was playing, even after obtaining Cassandra it was still the same...
You have to be very BLIND to not see what is currently happening on the game.

[Si]

I'm not sure how anyone can be so blind as to not suspect cheating. The sheer number of Arishem decks who perfectly open with Quinjet, Coulson, Nick Fury and Loki is just so umbelieavble.

They draw better and more consistently with a 24 card deck than any human plsyer I have seen draws with a 12 card deck.

Its cheaters or its bots with scripted draw orders. The maths simply do not lie.