Warmachine killed the game for me

[Philthy]

im already forced to play in Infinity against literally every net-deck there is. and i dont even own half the series 3 cards. now with Warmachine i can't do anything. everybody hitting their Infinauts and Ebonys, and im like, nice, here's my Angela..

Well played devs

[Taweret]

what clvl are you? if you hit infinity and your clvl is low then you will play with people that have 5k+ clvl that way is best to stick to conquest

[Si]

Yeah lockdown is so boring and that's all I'm seeing. I can see some nerfs coming to the archetype since the devs don't wsnt it to be popular.

[Philthy]

Originally posted by Taweret:

what clvl are you? if you hit infinity and your clvl is low then you will play with people that have 5k+ clvl that way is best to stick to conquest

im lvl 1251. i started playing a month ago. i dont even have Jeff and my opponents drop Hellas and Galactus ans sht all over the place

and yea, i stuck to conquest. gathered more than enuf points to unlock new Cap. but there too, i might beat silver, but in gold its gg. its simply another power level of cards.

the only deck im having sucesswith, the one that got me to infinity in the first place, is my Hope Summers, Shuri, Taskmaster deck, where i can pump out some numbers at least.

but now with Warmachine, that deck is useless too. cant compete with a free Infinaut on an ProfX location

[Taweret]

yeah clvl 1.2k is like starting point, i'm currently 1.8k and i dont face warmachine at all when i'm playing conquest since after i grab that galactic rank 500 gold i dont care to go after card back i wont use anyway. if you are in infinity bracket matchmaking is based on the infinity rating rather than clvls. if you lose enough of games you will be matched against bots tho.

[Lady MacBeth]

Originally posted by Taweret:

yeah clvl 1.2k is like starting point, i'm currently 1.8k and i dont face warmachine at all when i'm playing conquest since after i grab that galactic rank 500 gold i dont care to go after card back i wont use anyway. if you are in infinity bracket matchmaking is based on the infinity rating rather than clvls. if you lose enough of games you will be matched against bots tho.

There are no bots in infinite anymore. They were removed in the loki update. So no matter how much they lose they will be playing humans. Though if they lose enough they will be down in the agatha fight club mmr I suppose.

[Philthy]

Originally posted by Lady Ming:

Originally posted by Taweret:

yeah clvl 1.2k is like starting point, i'm currently 1.8k and i dont face warmachine at all when i'm playing conquest since after i grab that galactic rank 500 gold i dont care to go after card back i wont use anyway. if you are in infinity bracket matchmaking is based on the infinity rating rather than clvls. if you lose enough of games you will be matched against bots tho.

There are no bots in infinite anymore. They were removed in the loki update. So no matter how much they lose they will be playing humans. Though if they lose enough they will be down in the agatha fight club mmr I suppose.

lol. i was there. i thought, wtf does everybody play Agatha? and i was playing Spider Ham and every turn i would silence their Agatha and then they stoped playing cards but also wouldnt retreat. really weird.

i first entered Infinity at rank 16k. i got up to 15k and then i realized i have no chance. i started playing just for fun with random zoo decks and actually still didnt do too bad. this Scarlet Witch on the Magick location on turn 6 has won me a hell a games. now im at rank 70k lol. but im still faced with fully upgraded top tier decks. 1 time, that dude did nothing until turn 5 Modok turn 6 Hella. you know, and i try and all seems good numbers, and he drops random sht ive never even seen and gets an easy win by doing nothing.

but i mean, i could still play cards then. now i get locked out of locations while they drop Infinaut whereever they want. normally at 12 when new quest appear i would play for some hours. now i dont even want to think about playing. i hope this stupid "meta" shifts soon.

[Philthy]

well, in my 20h session, i didnt come across Warmachine once in 2 hours. i dont know, maybe only americans play him so far. maybe i got low enuf to be matched with equal players. i did notice some decks looked even worse than mine

anyway, i hope the devs change Warmachine, maybe play 1 card anywhere. and better stats in return.

[BobbyGun]

Originally posted by Lady Ming:

Originally posted by Taweret:

yeah clvl 1.2k is like starting point, i'm currently 1.8k and i dont face warmachine at all when i'm playing conquest since after i grab that galactic rank 500 gold i dont care to go after card back i wont use anyway. if you are in infinity bracket matchmaking is based on the infinity rating rather than clvls. if you lose enough of games you will be matched against bots tho.

There are no bots in infinite anymore. They were removed in the loki update. So no matter how much they lose they will be playing humans. Though if they lose enough they will be down in the agatha fight club mmr I suppose.

The agatha fight club - made my day ;)

[MaxMaNone]

what are you crying about 1month cl 1200 just madness, i play four and have 1300, 20h session___ lunacy go play something else your dailies are done just if you grind for infinite that would make sense. Warmachine looks fine as it is now it is strong but also meant as a option/counter to many things and locations yeah it has strong symbiosis with your mentioned cards but for example is weak vs some on reveal decks could even be weak vs some move variants.
Most new cards feel very strong until you see how to handle them like corvus is still so strong , cannonball can be situational, pix aswell but incosisten also difficult to play against. Yeah Hela is very strong but you see they are already trying to nerf discarder and playing them can be kinda incosistent you should sometimes know when to snap if the opponent discards the wrong ones.
Be happy you already got taskmaster he looks fun with arnim or shuri panther just try some stuff, i mostly play death and think he would fit in that fun hope/venom/knull/arnim variant but see i also often play vanilla collector it's just a good deck to learn the cards and combos and is fun to play.
Conquest is a different breed for that modus you need decks with lots of answers like rogue, cosmo, shang, enchantress, prof x are good options but you still need a functioning deck.
But apparently you are complaining about a brand new card that ppl buy from that rather bad cache i wait for a cache in 4 or weeks there is nico and i want her variant, So far just one cache i used one key so far was lucky with that key and got gladiator these caches are meant for new players like us to catch up so don't give up on the game you barely plaid the journey starts now to collect cards and see which strong decks you can make i think buying a season pass regularly at the beginning should also help alot.
Being busted by a 4 cost feels way less worse than realizing that iceman, scorpion or korg cost you a game, i mean i don't even count how often i got shang chid. In conquest it often boiled down to who shangs whom and it is the highest % plaid card but i won't complain i like the card it feels very satisfying. I don;t think there are many agatha players since she steals all the upgrade puffs also she is no fun to play bcs you are not playing.

[Tray]

War Machine is a pretty mid card to be complaining about.

[Lazydrones]

The absolute funny part is them stating not that long ago they wanted to reduce lockdown decks (stated again around the time Spiderman was changed).
Yet here we are with War Machine whose mechanics reinforce location lockdown. Not fun gameplay at all as it simply ruins any interest in the game.

Or did they think people were only going to use him as a defensive card just-in-case...

Lack of foresight in card and deck design displayed by the devs yet again. As always.

[Si]

Originally posted by Lazydrones:

The absolute funny part is them stating not that long ago they wanted to reduce lockdown decks (stated again around the time Spiderman was changed).
Yet here we are with War Machine whose mechanics reinforce location lockdown. Not fun gameplay at all as it simply ruins any interest in the game.

Or did they think people were only going to use him as a defensive card just-in-case...

Lack of foresight in card and deck design displayed by the devs yet again. As always.

They said it when they nerfed Spiderman and said it again when they nerfed Prof X, yet went on to allow lockdown to be one of the most played decks out there.

Yeah they intended War Machine to be the cojnter, but hes now being taken in lockdown decks and not much else.

[kingts]

I do not find War machine a reason to over react that it killed the game. Their greed could do that, but to me not any one individual card. In fact I would argue they take your money for an OP card to be smacked down later.

Any new card needs a week to settle, to see where it stands.

You think War-machine was bad, who is a guppy to me
Alioth didn't do it, then War machine is not even close. I have had no issue vs him even with Lock-down, because it telegraphs play. Very Niche and counter-able. He/she clearly tells you what is coming.
He to me has been statistically a disappointment, but its a small sample size.

Again, why do you play? Not worth getting frustrated about at all. Peace gang

[Lady MacBeth]

Originally posted by Si:

Originally posted by Lazydrones:

The absolute funny part is them stating not that long ago they wanted to reduce lockdown decks (stated again around the time Spiderman was changed).
Yet here we are with War Machine whose mechanics reinforce location lockdown. Not fun gameplay at all as it simply ruins any interest in the game.

Or did they think people were only going to use him as a defensive card just-in-case...

Lack of foresight in card and deck design displayed by the devs yet again. As always.

They said it when they nerfed Spiderman and said it again when they nerfed Prof X, yet went on to allow lockdown to be one of the most played decks out there.

Yeah they intended War Machine to be the cojnter, but hes now being taken in lockdown decks and not much else.

Lockdown has a 2.7% play rate across all levels of play per untapped. Making it number 15 on rate of play. And that's with it having a 5 way tie at 2.7% with other decks. So its both 15th-20th "most played decks" at the same time. Go look it up, its all viewable on the free version of untapped which is currently comprised of 1,100,000+ games since the ota.

Its doing decent performance wise, especially in preinfnite. But its no where near as popular as you are trying to claim. Unless you are in some weird pocket meta in your mmr and region were its more popular. Its just not a thing overall, the metrics show this.

Metrics also show that the version without war machine is more popular. Now that could be primarily due to less people having the card of course.

[Taweret]

if war-machine killed game then any new spotlight will do even worse, since war-machine aint that good. wait till red hulk.