See, this is why this game feels atrocious.

[Mac]

Used a spotlight key, tried to get Cannonball, im at CL 2.6k, i have some series 4 and 5 cards, and i do have Corvus Glaives that i got from a previous spotlight.

For cl 2.6k, you get roughly 18 spotlight keys.
I got Echo variant from one of these caches, meaning i spent multiple keys on 1 cache.
There are 54 cards across the Series 4 and 5 range.
thats roughly 38 cards i dont yet have unlocked.

So when i got this message just now:

Corvus Glaives
"Already Owned: Convert!"

I wonder to myself .... why .... why does this game gets so much hatred with how you collect cards ... *sigh

I'm a low collection level, not even past half way to getting the S4 and 5 cards, and its giving me duplicates at this point *rolls eyes

Also, you only get 1k tokens from converting, so a SPOTLIGHT key, a key used to collect expensive and rare series 4 and 5 cards, has the same value as a series 3 card? the fact i even got a duplicate at this point is insulting enough, but to then get such a piss poor token amount is just, an offensive joke to behold.

Even if i didn't get what i was aiming for, getting instead a random s4 or 5 that i didn't own, regardless of what it is, would have been so much better than a friggin duplicate this early in my collection levels ....

Yeah yeah yeah, im just venting i know, but my god, EVERYTIME i play this game, its always got some heavy negative comment i need to say outloud, it's a constant reminder that i should just shelve it and walk away.

If i get another random card again this early on again, i'm done with this BS.

Imagine if Collector's Reverses did duplicates, the backlash would be insane, so why in god heck is it perfectly okay for them to do it in Spotlight keys, when im still missing so many cards *sigh

Another negative comment about this game, rocking my mind, there are so many .... why am i even bothering.

[Si]

Firstly, Cannonball sucks. The 1k tokens might actually be a blessing in disguise.

Secondly, try to save 4 keys before gambling so you can 100% grab the card you want that week.

[Mac]

Originally posted by Si:

Firstly, Cannonball sucks. The 1k tokens might actually be a blessing in disguise.

Secondly, try to save 4 keys before gambling so you can 100% grab the card you want that week.

You've missed my point entirely which tells me you didn't read it.
Your cannonball comment is also a personal view and holds no relevance to my original post - i would not now or ever consider the 1k tokens (when im missing so many cards) to be a blessing, especially because it's YOUR preference, not mine, i chose to want to try for him, and i get a duplicate.

My issue is not how many keys i used, please read what i actually wrote before mindlessly replying. At no point did i even mention such a thing.

There was also no comment about me opening caches, my entire post, which you clearly did not read past the first few words is that i got a duplicate when im missing more than half the cards from S4 and 5, and that apparently SD think this is acceptable.

[Taweret]

em what? can you really i mean REALLY get duplicates from spotlight caches? that's so friggin stupid, unethical and disgusting, like they could easily apply dupe protection for it. especially when spotlight keys are priced at 50 usd!. so imagine now buying that wong bundle for 100 bucks just to get 1k tokens back, lol, PREDATORY at its finest, literally burning money. and i believe they intentionally added spotlight key instead of 6k credits to even more screw players.

Collector's Reverses in fact does have duplicates that is especially harmful if you are new player trying to finish pool 3 collection, and purchase few bundles with pool 3 cards to moment later get them from these "Collector's Reverses".

[Blind Reverend]

I'm at CL 14k+ and I also don't have all s4+5 cards. But compared to your low CL, you have many of those cards, which means the higher you climb the less you get in return out of those boxes.

A new card costs me in average 2 of those boxes, if I roll every week. That is the real price.

[Blind Reverend]

Originally posted by Taweret:

em what? can you really i mean REALLY get duplicates from spotlight caches? that's so friggin stupid, unethical and disgusting, like they could easily apply dupe protection for it. especially when spotlight keys are priced at 50 usd!. so imagine now buying that wong bundle for 100 bucks just to get 1k tokens back, lol, PREDATORY at its finest.

Collector's Reverses in fact does have duplicates that is especially harmful if you are new player trying to finish pool 3 collection, and purchase few bundles with pool 3 cards to moment later get them from these "Collector's Reverses".

There are 4 cards in the spotlight pool every week:

The first card is the new one. If you have bought it with token, you get a variant of this card instead.

The second and third card are featured cards out of series 4 and 5 and they give you a variant of those cards, if you already own them.

The 4th card of the week in the spotlight box is a random card of the series 4 and 5 pool. If you already own it, it converts to 1000 token.

[Taweret]

Originally posted by Blind Reverend:

If you already own it, it converts to 1000 token.

yeah i know and that's pretty garbage considering they price spotlight key at 50 usd when you see the prices of wong and shang bundles yet there is high posibility you will be screwed on 1k tokens in return.

[Blind Reverend]

Originally posted by Taweret:

Originally posted by Blind Reverend:

If you already own it, it converts to 1000 token.

yeah i know and that's pretty garbage considering they price spotlight key at 50 usd when you see the prices of wong and shang bundles yet there is high posibility you will be screwed on 1k tokens in return.

I don't buy any of those bundles that are €10+ and don't include gold at a 2:1 rate (to the regular shop pice), and I have 25 boxes in reserve. You get them free by leveling up the ladder. Those whale bundles are just bad deals for addicts.

[Ghostface]

Originally posted by Taweret:

em what? can you really i mean REALLY get duplicates from spotlight caches? that's so friggin stupid, unethical and disgusting, like they could easily apply dupe protection for it. especially when spotlight keys are priced at 50 usd!. so imagine now buying that wong bundle for 100 bucks just to get 1k tokens back, lol, PREDATORY at its finest, literally burning money. and i believe they intentionally added spotlight key instead of 6k credits to even more screw players.

Collector's Reverses in fact does have duplicates that is especially harmful if you are new player trying to finish pool 3 collection, and purchase few bundles with pool 3 cards to moment later get them from these "Collector's Reverses".

I was saving up for Corvus Glaive at his february run so i got 4 keys, there was also a Gladiator i believe which im also missing but wasn't going for him (but getting him would be nice anyways) opened 4 caches and ive got 3 copies and 1 variant.
This piece of garbage is rigged from top to bottom, starting with a deck based matchmaking which is rediculous for a card game and ending up with caches and useless balance changes.

[Taweret]

you only can get variant from the cache if you already own card from the three displayed right? honestly i would rather prefer getting spotlight variant from duplicates than pathetic 1k tokens for a 50 usd key.

[Lady MacBeth]

Originally posted by Ghostface:

deck based matchmaking

That's just your confirmation bias kicking in.

[groovador]

Originally posted by Lady Ming:

Originally posted by Ghostface:

deck based matchmaking

That's just your confirmation bias kicking in.

careful there, those words ring in their ears like an off tune dog whistle

[Xlarge]

spotlight caches suck unless you drop 4 keys for them all. Ive never gotten a new card yet from only 1 key

[Forticon]

Originally posted by Xlarge:

spotlight caches suck unless you drop 4 keys for them all. Ive never gotten a new card yet from only 1 key

I have. Multiple times in fact.

I've also gotten everything BUT the new card I wanted multiple times. LOL

[PromNightFetus]

[This might be a long one, sorry]

It took roughly 4 weeks as Series3 complete to earn 6k tokens pre-spotlight. It takes roughly 4 weeks to earn 4 spotlight keys.

Token acquisition was better before and because we're able to pin a card in the shop, we had a bit more control in the exact card we wanted. That said, you could only get about 1-2 new cards a month.

Spotlights require you to have 4 keys in a given week to guarantee getting the 1 card. However because of you having a guarantee of also getting all 4 cards in that week, you can choose a week that has the most cards you do not have resulting in 2+ new cards a month. You also have the possibility of getting lucky and pulling it on less than 4 keys, which feeds into another week.

So imo both methods have their merits. I think what would improve the Spotlight system would be if we could pin a card from a week and have it take up that 4th random slot. So you could pin a card, wait for a week that's more favorable, and pull from there.

Another option could be if we could use 3 keys for a 6k card in the shop. 2 for a 3k card. 3 keys is a lot but their value is roughly 4500 tokens in the old system so really you would be coming out ahead. So possibly higher value through pulling caches vs a guarantee via the shop.

I think the pinning would be the better option though.

Also I do think they should at least increase the dupe slot to give 1500 tokens. Since 4 keys = 6 tokens, it would only make sense for each key to be worth 1500 tokens. Dupes suck but 2 dupes in a row equaling 3k vs 2k like we have now? I think that would be a bit better.

[Mac]

You should still not be getting duplicate anything until you literally can't get anything else, especially if you're not even s3 complete!

Just to clarify:
Variants aren't duplicates, variants are standalone cards you can get even if you don't own said card, for instance, if i was mad and on drugs i could buy the wong pack and get my hands on wong even though i don't have him unlocked, ergo, not a duplicate.

But i got Corvus Duplicate, not a variant, no, i got his base card, again, when i'm missing 38 cards from the pools.

Getting a duplicate S4 or 5 when im not even S3 complete and BARELY half way into S4 and 5 is BS, and you know it.

The fact people feel the need to defend this atrocious design tells me more about the community then the Devs.

Again, just to reiterate, i'm not upset the spotlight key failed to get any of the 3 presented to me, no, even if i got a variant i new the risk of getting a variant, i took the chance etc, i'm annoyed and upset that the random card gave me a duplicate, THAT'S my issue, and at such low collection levels - If i instead got a random s4 or 5 that i didn't own regardless of what it was, there would be no negative comment to be made, its the fact i got a duplicate that's pissed me off.