The rigged games are getting even worse

[Si]

Literally every game, without exception - without exception

Opponent playing shenaut

Turn 1 Sunspot, turn 3 cyclops. Every game. Every single game.

Me? no sunspot until turn 6, cyclops doesn't ever show up. Had to check he was even in the deck.


Opponent playing that ms marvel lockdown deck

Turn 1 nebula
turn 2 zabu

Every game. Every single game.

Me playing a single deck? all my 1 and 2 cost cards are hidden at the back, cant play anything until turn 3 no matter how many low cost cards I have.


I suppose "it's just luck" right, even though we're talking hours and hours of playing and it's extremely consistent. Perfect draws, perfect tempo.

Also had 1 who played Caiera on death's domain on turn 3, as I played storm there to shut it off and I had priority. Didn't even recognize it as a bot until I saw that....unless someone wants to tell me this person intended to kill their Caiera for no good reason and no benefit? :)

Whats the point in playing if you're just matched against bots who play the exact same deck as you but are scripted to have perfect draws and tempo? I really don't get it.

[Si]

Originally posted by BellatorMonk:

Just lost 19 games in a row. Every single deck and card countered with ease by the opponent. Not even close matches...just obliterated. No use wasting anymore time on this game lol. Have fun for the "skilled" ones.

See, the game is mostly chance and rng.

Losing 19 games in a row by perfect counter and perfect counter doesnt make sense.


Now that the meta has settled and its Arishem Loki every game, I'm seeing Loli every game, by like turns 3-5 too. Which is incredibly unrealistic odds considering its a 24 card deck.

They have drawn roughly 6 cards out of 24 by that point. 25% of their deck drawn and its Shang Chi and Loki consistently.

If anyone believes thats genuine, I have some magic beans to sell them.

[Si]

Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:

Originally posted by Si:

Shang chi every single time in a 24 card deck

High evo decks who always manage to open up with Sunspot, Misty, Cyclops etc on Curve and always have Hulk in hand early.

Sorry, no. This is not true. I had games where it was clear opponent did not get Shang, and games where I did not get him. Same for Sunspot on one, I've seen him played on four. Don't play HIgh Evo, so no data about drawing him myself.

We're not talking about your draws, we're talking about the opponents draws.

My draws are terrible. Most people who discuss the game say their draws are terrible. Thats the point, everyone has those games where they miss cards.

Except my opponents dont. (Cant comment on yours)

Which is the point I have been making for months. If we all have plenty of bad draws, how come that isnt reflected in the people I play against?

These Arishem decks are drawing Shang and Loki consistently.

The 75% rule is now out of the window, they have these cards after only drawing 25% of their deck.

How? That defies belief, and who are these people?

[SILENCE UK]

day x of waiting for a straight answer as to why you still play and support the rigged product/game

[Zlehtnoba]

Originally posted by Si:

Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:

Sorry, no. This is not true. I had games where it was clear opponent did not get Shang, and games where I did not get him. Same for Sunspot on one, I've seen him played on four. Don't play HIgh Evo, so no data about drawing him myself.

We're not talking about your draws, we're talking about the opponents draws.

My draws are terrible. Most people who discuss the game say their draws are terrible. Thats the point, everyone has those games where they miss cards.

Except my opponents dont. (Cant comment on yours)

Which is the point I have been making for months. If we all have plenty of bad draws, how come that isnt reflected in the people I play against?

These Arishem decks are drawing Shang and Loki consistently.

The 75% rule is now out of the window, they have these cards after only drawing 25% of their deck.

How? That defies belief, and who are these people?

I did say it was both me and my opponent. You are also talking about opponents and your draws, so I included both.

[Captain Worthy]

Originally posted by Si:

Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:

Sorry, no. This is not true. I had games where it was clear opponent did not get Shang, and games where I did not get him. Same for Sunspot on one, I've seen him played on four. Don't play HIgh Evo, so no data about drawing him myself.

We're not talking about your draws, we're talking about the opponents draws.

My draws are terrible. Most people who discuss the game say their draws are terrible. Thats the point, everyone has those games where they miss cards.

Except my opponents dont. (Cant comment on yours)

Which is the point I have been making for months. If we all have plenty of bad draws, how come that isnt reflected in the people I play against?

These Arishem decks are drawing Shang and Loki consistently.

The 75% rule is now out of the window, they have these cards after only drawing 25% of their deck.

How? That defies belief, and who are these people?

I just had a run in Gold Conquest, totally crushed all my opponents before the last one and they had an Arishem deck + counters against my specific deck. :D

That's how the MMR system works in this game, your win ratio goes too high and you get matched against opponents who have counters and pull them even when they shouldn't.

In this case I ended up winning anyways, it was 2-2 cubes for both of us and my opponent based his deck on both having Ongoing cards + counters for Ongoing cards + Arishem. He made a calculation mistake with Darkhawk, as his power waned one point too low on the last turn and I won that location while winning the left location as well as he decided to give up on it.

If he had been more alert, he would have won that game easily as the locations and draws were on his side.

[Verru]

As a new player reading through this thread it does seem that match making is the issue with this game. Its easy enough to check by creating 2 accounts like i did spending small amounts of money on one and none on the other and look at the difference in match making and it is insane. The account that has no money spent, my opponents also have crappy cards like you would expect from a new player. The other account is the same rank and ques into decks that are full of meta cards that I have 0 access to and fully upgraded. But both are at the same rank and the difference is insane. If you spend any money and stop you will hit opponents that will blow you away and it is 100% intended to get you to spend more money. I just don't see how anyone can take these devs serious.

[Clockeye]

Originally posted by Verru:

As a new player reading through this thread it does seem that match making is the issue with this game. Its easy enough to check by creating 2 accounts like i did spending small amounts of money on one and none on the other and look at the difference in match making and it is insane. The account that has no money spent, my opponents also have crappy cards like you would expect from a new player. The other account is the same rank and ques into decks that are full of meta cards that I have 0 access to and fully upgraded. But both are at the same rank and the difference is insane. If you spend any money and stop you will hit opponents that will blow you away and it is 100% intended to get you to spend more money. I just don't see how anyone can take these devs serious.

we call those people "shills"

[Zlehtnoba]

Originally posted by Clockeye:

Originally posted by Verru:

As a new player reading through this thread it does seem that match making is the issue with this game. Its easy enough to check by creating 2 accounts like i did spending small amounts of money on one and none on the other and look at the difference in match making and it is insane. The account that has no money spent, my opponents also have crappy cards like you would expect from a new player. The other account is the same rank and ques into decks that are full of meta cards that I have 0 access to and fully upgraded. But both are at the same rank and the difference is insane. If you spend any money and stop you will hit opponents that will blow you away and it is 100% intended to get you to spend more money. I just don't see how anyone can take these devs serious.

we call those people "shills"

If we are down to name calling, we call your ilk flatearthers.

[someksguy]

Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:

Originally posted by Clockeye:

we call those people "shills"

If we are down to name calling, we call your ilk flatearthers.

Wait... the earth IS flat... right?

[.]

Originally posted by Zlehtnoba:

Originally posted by Clockeye:

we call those people "shills"

If we are down to name calling, we call your ilk flatearthers.

Said the sheep.

[Arukādo]

Calm down guys. If you want the truth why don't you ask Second Dinner directly? They can provide an official answer.
https://www.seconddinner.com/

[Si]

Originally posted by Captain Worthy:

Originally posted by Si:

We're not talking about your draws, we're talking about the opponents draws.

My draws are terrible. Most people who discuss the game say their draws are terrible. Thats the point, everyone has those games where they miss cards.

Except my opponents dont. (Cant comment on yours)

Which is the point I have been making for months. If we all have plenty of bad draws, how come that isnt reflected in the people I play against?

These Arishem decks are drawing Shang and Loki consistently.

The 75% rule is now out of the window, they have these cards after only drawing 25% of their deck.

How? That defies belief, and who are these people?

I just had a run in Gold Conquest, totally crushed all my opponents before the last one and they had an Arishem deck + counters against my specific deck. :D

That's how the MMR system works in this game, your win ratio goes too high and you get matched against opponents who have counters and pull them even when they shouldn't.

In this case I ended up winning anyways, it was 2-2 cubes for both of us and my opponent based his deck on both having Ongoing cards + counters for Ongoing cards + Arishem. He made a calculation mistake with Darkhawk, as his power waned one point too low on the last turn and I won that location while winning the left location as well as he decided to give up on it.

If he had been more alert, he would have won that game easily as the locations and draws were on his side.

Lol thats not how an MMR system is supposed to work, thats manipulation.

But yes I had the same earlier. Won too much recently I guess so everybopponent has the counter, all "rng" events like location chaning, doc ock pulls etc swing the game in theie favour, and they draw the counters consistently and on curve even with 24 card decks.

Which is the kind of complaint you will see consistently on Reddit. Theres bad luck which is going to happen from time to time, but then theres snap where there is patterns and consistencies to these strings of losses, where all the "rng" (which arent rrally rng) events somehow benefit your opponents deck in a massive way.

[Si]

Originally posted by Arukādo:

Calm down guys. If you want the truth why don't you ask Second Dinner directly? They can provide an official answer.
https://www.seconddinner.com/

Why would they admit it?

Its like "why dont you go to a carnival and ask the person running the ring toss if its fixed"

Do you really expect them to say "yes"?

Thats all Ben Brode is, a glorified Carny.

[SILENCE UK]

Originally posted by Si:

Originally posted by Arukādo:

Calm down guys. If you want the truth why don't you ask Second Dinner directly? They can provide an official answer.
https://www.seconddinner.com/

Why would they admit it?

Its like "why dont you go to a carnival and ask the person running the ring toss if its fixed"

Do you really expect them to say "yes"?

Thats all Ben Brode is, a glorified Carny.

If you don't trust the answers the people running the game give you, why are you still playing.

[onedudesmind]

I love how people are making statement on both sides like they actually know what the truth is..Everyone in here is just guessing, the people who say it is rigged and the people who say it isn't.. You don't KNOW, yet you all keep making statements like you do. If you think a company won't use every tool and trick they have to keep you playing and addicted you are naive. As for the rigging of matches? They are more than capable of controlling most aspect of matches, Amazons handling of their matchmaking allows them to do this, it is clearly stated what it is capable of if you look it up. SO the real question is, Are they using the tools Amazon gives them to rig matches to keep you playing? Activision has an entire psychological study that talks about rewarding and punishing players at specific times to keep them addicted and playing by giving them targeted dopamine hits(wins and losses at certain times to increase or deprive the dopamine hit) using a system they made to control every aspect of the game. This can control everything right down to the accuracy of the players gun. The big argument is that they have never said they are using the patent they paid for.... If you don't think they are capable of controlling every aspect of your match you are naive and don't understand tech today. If they ARE or NOT is for you to decide these companies almost never reveal their matchmaking processes in detail..