The rigged games are getting even worse

[Si]

Literally every game, without exception - without exception

Opponent playing shenaut

Turn 1 Sunspot, turn 3 cyclops. Every game. Every single game.

Me? no sunspot until turn 6, cyclops doesn't ever show up. Had to check he was even in the deck.


Opponent playing that ms marvel lockdown deck

Turn 1 nebula
turn 2 zabu

Every game. Every single game.

Me playing a single deck? all my 1 and 2 cost cards are hidden at the back, cant play anything until turn 3 no matter how many low cost cards I have.


I suppose "it's just luck" right, even though we're talking hours and hours of playing and it's extremely consistent. Perfect draws, perfect tempo.

Also had 1 who played Caiera on death's domain on turn 3, as I played storm there to shut it off and I had priority. Didn't even recognize it as a bot until I saw that....unless someone wants to tell me this person intended to kill their Caiera for no good reason and no benefit? :)

Whats the point in playing if you're just matched against bots who play the exact same deck as you but are scripted to have perfect draws and tempo? I really don't get it.

[Clockeye]

Publicado originalmente por box art ryu:

I think you get a lot of blowback because this matchmaking sounds bad but honestly it would be the easiest way to balance a game like this for a smaller company + keep people playing everyday, all season long.

reasons like this is why people hate EOMM bs.

[Si]

Publicado originalmente por Ydrisselle:

There is only one answer: Second Dinner hates you. Personally you.

Why do all of yoh repeatedly refer to this strawman?

Its clearly not just me, there are others saying the same thing I am, both here and outside of Steam.

All we want to know is why if we play a deck do we hit the perfect curve in say... 2 out of 20-30 games, whereas the opponents we go against are about the opposite, missing it only once or twice over the next 20 times we see that deck.

What is the reason?

[Ydrisselle]

Publicado originalmente por Si:

Publicado originalmente por Ydrisselle:

There is only one answer: Second Dinner hates you. Personally you.

Why do all of yoh repeatedly refer to this strawman?

Its clearly not just me, there are others saying the same thing I am, both here and outside of Steam.

All we want to know is why if we play a deck do we hit the perfect curve in say... 2 out of 20-30 games, whereas the opponents we go against are about the opposite, missing it only once or twice over the next 20 times we see that deck.

What is the reason?

Because it's in your imagination. Record your play, upload to YouTube - uncut, maybe sped up to not exceed the time limit. Without that you don't have any proof.

I just played a match, with Destroy (since I can't win any cubes with anything else this season for some reason). Turn 7, Kamar-Taj - my opponent played Gambit + Absorbing Man, so they discarded 4 cards and destroyed 4 cards on my side of the board. The destroyed cards: X-23, Deadpool, Lady Deathstrike, X-23 - all of which were great for my Knull, presumably their primary target. Of course if Knull was hit, I would have lost. I'm sure if my opponent were you we would already read it here as "clearly the game is biased against me"...

(it's also interesting that you didn't kept the second part of that paragraph in your answer about you reaching infinite ranks...)

[Zlehtnoba]

Publicado originalmente por box art ryu:

I think you get a lot of blowback because this matchmaking sounds bad but honestly it would be the easiest way to balance a game like this for a smaller company + keep people playing everyday, all season long.

Matchmaking is certainly a tool designers use to keep players playing and spending, but things Si describes have the opposite effect, frustration with the game. SNAP developers seem to be leaning the other way, if for some random reason you get a string of losses, they throw you a mercy bot to rise your spirits.

If they were to watch results and adjust matchmaking accordingly in addition to these mercy bots, I'd think that, instead of hitting someone with bad luck all the time, they would alternate good and bad matchups, since this is the best way, IMO, to keep someone interested in the game. But random does this quite well, so why bother spending effort (or money buying existing solutions)?

[Captain Worthy]

Publicado originalmente por Si:

Publicado originalmente por Ydrisselle:

There is only one answer: Second Dinner hates you. Personally you.

Why do all of yoh repeatedly refer to this strawman?

Its clearly not just me, there are others saying the same thing I am, both here and outside of Steam.

All we want to know is why if we play a deck do we hit the perfect curve in say... 2 out of 20-30 games, whereas the opponents we go against are about the opposite, missing it only once or twice over the next 20 times we see that deck.

What is the reason?

Your human opponents have the same experience, everybody gets functional curves when their win/loss ratio goes low enough. When it goes too high for the game though, then you get ruined curves.

When you have a high win/loss ratio and get matched with someone that has a low one, they will get those magic curves. This can then happen multiple times in a row as long as you are matched with different people, all with much lower win/loss ratios than yours. That's when you see the pattern of the algorithm and realize the game is rigged.

If you were to play against the same opponent 20 times, you'd see them starting to get bad locations and hands too.

[.]

Gambling sites with skins for cs for example rigged with ease how lucky their users on sponsorship get and how many times they win, and u all believe that in a fking game where u literally pick a card from a deck that doesnt even exist and is just a bunch of 0s and 1s isnt rigged ??? Of course it is...its just software after all, even online casinos control your path on how much you win from them.
They want u frustrated and mad and on losing streak so u can open your wallet and buy that extra card or whatever u need to win because after all youre missing out on that dopamine hit from winning.

[Si]

Publicado originalmente por Captain Worthy:

Publicado originalmente por Si:

Why do all of yoh repeatedly refer to this strawman?

Its clearly not just me, there are others saying the same thing I am, both here and outside of Steam.

All we want to know is why if we play a deck do we hit the perfect curve in say... 2 out of 20-30 games, whereas the opponents we go against are about the opposite, missing it only once or twice over the next 20 times we see that deck.

What is the reason?

Your human opponents have the same experience, everybody gets functional curves when their win/loss ratio goes low enough. When it goes too high for the game though, then you get ruined curves.

When you have a high win/loss ratio and get matched with someone that has a low one, they will get those magic curves. This can then happen multiple times in a row as long as you are matched with different people, all with much lower win/loss ratios than yours. That's when you see the pattern of the algorithm and realize the game is rigged.

If you were to play against the same opponent 20 times, you'd see them starting to get bad locations and hands too.

Is it just ladder or conquest?

I dont play conquest, but I have done 1 on 1 friendly battles with someone I know IRL and the results felt a lot more like you would expect from a "random" game.

[Arukādo]

Publicado originalmente por Si:

Publicado originalmente por Captain Worthy:

Your human opponents have the same experience, everybody gets functional curves when their win/loss ratio goes low enough. When it goes too high for the game though, then you get ruined curves.

When you have a high win/loss ratio and get matched with someone that has a low one, they will get those magic curves. This can then happen multiple times in a row as long as you are matched with different people, all with much lower win/loss ratios than yours. That's when you see the pattern of the algorithm and realize the game is rigged.

If you were to play against the same opponent 20 times, you'd see them starting to get bad locations and hands too.

Is it just ladder or conquest?

I dont play conquest, but I have done 1 on 1 friendly battles with someone I know IRL and the results felt a lot more like you would expect from a "random" game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

[Zlehtnoba]

[quote=Xstasy;4414172638914550768
They want u frustrated and mad and on losing streak so u can open your wallet and buy that extra card or whatever u need to win because after all youre missing out on that dopamine hit from winning. [/quote]

You sure it works that way? Why not just go to another game when you get frustrated?

[Captain Worthy]

Publicado originalmente por Zlehtnoba:

[quote=Xstasy;4414172638914550768
They want u frustrated and mad and on losing streak so u can open your wallet and buy that extra card or whatever u need to win because after all youre missing out on that dopamine hit from winning.

You sure it works that way? Why not just go to another game when you get frustrated? [/quote]

Because of the sunk cost fallacy.

[SILENCE UK]

The fact you believe all this conspiracy and still play Si is what gets me the most. Assuming SD do lie (no evidence they ever have btw) why do you and others continue to play

[Si]

Publicado originalmente por Arukādo:

Publicado originalmente por Si:

Is it just ladder or conquest?

I dont play conquest, but I have done 1 on 1 friendly battles with someone I know IRL and the results felt a lot more like you would expect from a "random" game.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Everyone knows what that is.

Heres the thing you dont repeat a test 1000 times, consistently observe the same results and then say "confirmation bias". Thats not how it works.

[Si]

Add Arishem/Thanos to the list.

26 cards and repeatedly they are conssitently drawing their best cards from their deck - withiut even using many stones to draw.

This game is a joke like the dishonest, deceitful people that made it.

[Blaow.]

I'm new to the game. I guess I'm still not understanding. I thought all the cards and stages were RNG.

[deatheos]

Publicado originalmente por Si:

Publicado originalmente por Arukādo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Everyone knows what that is.

Heres the thing you dont repeat a test 1000 times, consistently observe the same results and then say "confirmation bias". Thats not how it works.

Only someone with severe mental illness would purposely subject themselves to a rigged test then complain about it non stop online all the while continuing to subject themselves to that "rigged test" again and again. I feel sorry for you my friend you need the Lord Jesus in your life you need peace.

God Bless and for real my friend step away from anything that gives you no joy you have millions of movies,books,games to choose from. Unless your simply a little troll with no life then you need to hang your head in shame and disgrace.