Shang Chi Bug?Has Shang Chi been nerfed or is it now bugged?

[grapplehoeker]

Has Shang Chi been nerfed or is it now bugged?

I've recently noticed that instead of killing all cards of 9+ power as per his ability, he is only killing one.
This happens intermittently and no, this is not a case of misfiring due to initiative... this occurs after the target card has already been at the location for more than a turn (= a valid target) and I place Shang Chi on a later turn.

[Perfect Cell]

Is it because of hazmat or typhold mary that made an existing 9 powered card 8 without luke cage or he had 8 powered card? cuz shang chi will work as intended...destroying cards having 9 or more power.
send a ss for better clarification.

[Tray]

No Shang has not changed.

Post a screenshot.

[grapplehoeker]

Sorry guys, I'm not in the habit of taking pre-emptive screenshots, but I shall try to do so in future.
This has been happening on occasion of the last few days.
So, in place of a screenshot, here's today's example...

Yes it was a Typhoid Mary that they placed in the left location on turn 4.
By turn 6, it was 20 power and that made it a target for Shang Chi on turn 6 to win the location and the match.
As it happens, they placed an 11 power Chavez there too on turn 6 and they revealed first, so Shang Chi had a certain hit on both.
However, he only killed Chavez and not both!
What was particularly annoying was that I had enough power in the left location to counter Chavez, so all I wanted was Typhoid Mary dead

Stuff like this is guttingly annoying and I'm doubting playing him at all now.

[Perfect Cell]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Sorry guys, I'm not in the habit of taking pre-emptive screenshots, but I shall try to do so in future.
This has been happening on occasion of the last few days.
So, in place of a screenshot, here's today's example...

Yes it was a Typhoid Mary that they placed in the left location on turn 4.
By turn 6, it was 20 power and that made it a target for Shang Chi on turn 6 to win the location and the match.
As it happens, they placed an 11 power Chavez there too on turn 6 and they revealed first, so Shang Chi had a certain hit on both.
However, he only killed Chavez and not both!
What was particularly annoying was that I had enough power in the left location to counter Chavez, so all I wanted was Typhoid Mary dead

Stuff like this is guttingly annoying and I'm doubting playing him at all now.

was location jotunhelm/necrosha/-ve zone (even tho i doubt one would keep there unless they have luke cage)?

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by Gazzor:

Stuff like this is guttingly annoying and I'm doubting playing him at all now.

was location jotunhelm/necrosha/-ve zone (even tho i doubt one would keep there unless they have luke cage)? [/quote]
It wasn't either of those. I don't recall what it was, but it was a beneficial location rather than a penalising one, as you can just about make out... (I did take a screenshot after the fact, but it was to check the script, sorry)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3031646139

[laveley]

You should always assume it wasn't a bug in the first place. Like, ALWAYS.

your description is very confusing. First if all, america Chavez isn't 11 power. It is 9. If Mary was in play, than chavez would be 8 and wouldn't be destroyed. But you say Chavez was destroyed and Mary didn't?

You left location from the screenshot is the one that doubles the power of the highest powered card there.

This is probably what happened:

Opponent had a typhoid Mary there, it had its power doubled because of the location.

Turn 6 opponent played Chavez , it got its power lowered to 8 because of typhoid Mary effect. You than played Chang shi: typhoid got destroyed but not Chavez because it was 8 power after Mary effect. Once Mary was destroyed, Chavez went back to 9 power and, since its now the highest powered card in the location it got its power doubled to 18....

Than somehow you confused everything because your first assumption was that it was a bug. It wasn't a bug.

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by laveley:

You should always assume it wasn't a bug in the first place. Like, ALWAYS.

your description is very confusing. First if all, america Chavez isn't 11 power. It is 9. If Mary was in play, than chavez would be 8 and wouldn't be destroyed. But you say Chavez was destroyed and Mary didn't?

You left location from the screenshot is the one that doubles the power of the highest powered card there.

This is probably what happened:

Opponent had a typhoid Mary there, it had its power doubled because of the location.

Turn 6 opponent played Chavez , it got its power lowered to 8 because of typhoid Mary effect. You than played Chang shi: typhoid got destroyed but not Chavez because it was 8 power after Mary effect. Once Mary was destroyed, Chavez went back to 9 power and, since its now the highest powered card in the location it got its power doubled to 18....

Than somehow you confused everything because your first assumption was that it was a bug. It wasn't a bug.

Firstly, you may well be correct and that Typhoid Mary's power was doubled from 10 to 20. However, as I said, on turn 5 she was the only one on their side there and that's why I played Chang Shi there on turn 6... my opponent played an 11 power Chavez there on the same turn There are all kinds of ways she could have had her 9 increased... think Oyoya and Nakla for example.
Chang killed Chavez and not Mary., nor both as should have happened.. period.
Thank you for your efforts to debunk what I in fact observed, but I'm not delusional and this was the reason for the post. I hope that is clearer for you now ;)

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by Death Caster:

Post the Shot of board, when you see the bug (including all your cards and that of opponents). Most probably something hindered Shang's ability or something else happened.

In case you missed post #3 above...

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Sorry guys, I'm not in the habit of taking pre-emptive screenshots, but I shall try to do so in future.

[grapplehoeker]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Originally posted by Death Caster:

Post the Shot of board, when you see the bug (including all your cards and that of opponents). Most probably something hindered Shang's ability or something else happened.

In case you missed post #3 above...

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Sorry guys, I'm not in the habit of taking pre-emptive screenshots, but I shall try to do so in future.

What could "probably" have prevented or hindered both kills in the same location if Chavez was killed and not Mary too?

Furthermore, as stated in my OP, that this is but one example... there have been others, but to save pointless debate over the details, just trust my eyes ;)

[laveley]

Originally posted by grapplehoeker:

Originally posted by laveley:

You should always assume it wasn't a bug in the first place. Like, ALWAYS.

your description is very confusing. First if all, america Chavez isn't 11 power. It is 9. If Mary was in play, than chavez would be 8 and wouldn't be destroyed. But you say Chavez was destroyed and Mary didn't?

You left location from the screenshot is the one that doubles the power of the highest powered card there.

This is probably what happened:

Opponent had a typhoid Mary there, it had its power doubled because of the location.

Turn 6 opponent played Chavez , it got its power lowered to 8 because of typhoid Mary effect. You than played Chang shi: typhoid got destroyed but not Chavez because it was 8 power after Mary effect. Once Mary was destroyed, Chavez went back to 9 power and, since its now the highest powered card in the location it got its power doubled to 18....

Than somehow you confused everything because your first assumption was that it was a bug. It wasn't a bug.

Firstly, you may well be correct and that Typhoid Mary's power was doubled from 10 to 20. However, as I said, on turn 5 she was the only one on their side there and that's why I played Chang Shi there on turn 6... my opponent played an 11 power Chavez there on the same turn There are all kinds of ways she could have had her 9 increased... think Oyoya and Nakla for example.
Chang killed Chavez and not Mary., nor both as should have happened.. period.
Thank you for your efforts to debunk what I in fact observed, but I'm not delusional and this was the reason for the post. I hope that is clearer for you now ;)

No it's not clear at all. All you have showed is a screenshot with blurred board and a bad description of what happened. You were unable to even tell us the location effect, which I could only guess by your crappy screenshot. Other relevant information is what other cards were in your side of the board (besides Chang shi) in that lane, as well as other cards In other lanes which may have messed up with cards power (like hazmat).

One thing is certain: one of those cards (Chavez or Mary) didn't have 9 power at the moment you played shang chi, destroying only the other card. You lost that lane because as soon as the highest powered card got destroyed, the locations effect doubled the remaining one to 16, which only had 8 power when you dropped Chang shi.

[laveley]

Originally posted by Death Caster:

Bro told us only three cards (Chavez, TMary, Shang) played, could not tell the locations, could not recreate such a bug thinks the card is bugged. I again say there is no such known bug in the game (If a new one happened to come players would have noticed it way before coz Shang is played a lot ) so you missed something. Also Chavez could not be 11 power without a location increasing her power (only okoye can hit her or god forbid Iron lad hit okoye which then also hit Chavez)

There's a lot of things that could have been in play. Even a cérebro combined with hazmat for example, a 8 power mary (-2 from hazmat) would be 10 , if the opponent dropped Chavez, than chavez would become 11 (highest power card) and than doubled by the location effect, Mary would be 8 again, Chavez would be destroyed and Mary would become the highest powered again, making it a 10 again with cérebro and than doubled by the location.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Anyhow, op failed to describe minimally wgat happened and prefers to allegate it was a bug.

[M O T I V A T E D]

tl;dr op did not read the board state correctly and chalked it up to a bug