The Matchmaking

[Orphen]

I will never understand the matchmaking I have been playing since season 1, and unlike most of the complaints I see about matchmaking it seems I am not seeing the issue I am having. Not sure what the formula is for matchmaking, but if I use an Ongoing deck for the most part most opponents have ongoing blocking card. Okay that's fine so i switch to my destruction deck 10 games in a row every opponent had armor yet none of my opponents when using my ongoing deck had armor. Okay switch to discard deck every single person is using shang I feel like I am super unlucky or the matchmaking formula is just crazy. I know a lot of these counter cards are in A tier decks, but what are the chances I am running into decks that counter mine almost every time even when I switch.

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Messaggio originale di ryu600RR:

perfect example here

last night i got omega red, slipped it into my existing deck,
for the next 5 of 7 games i got beat by magneto showing up on turn 6
i been playing that deck almost 2 months almost every day, and i never ran into magneto once !!

so okay i get it mag can beat my card, it's not even about winning or losing, why this game gotta spoon feed me and pre determine everything

same thing with cosmo/wong, encchantress/cerebro etc.

Exactly. What you think is random absolutely is not. Something is definitely there the determines which cards/deck you are playing, and matching you base on those terms. It is not happening all the time, but you can see it when you play hundreds of games, and switch decks and now all the sudden everyone is playing cards that counter your new deck perfectly. I have still managed to make it to infinity but nonetheless I know there is an algorithm just like the lockjaw/jubilee percentages.

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Messaggio originale di Grimvald Alibært:

I was rank 60 last season and now I can't pass rank 40. It feels really, really bad when having lose streaks (-8, -8, -4)... Plus these last times, I'm only facing destroying decks. This is getting boring. I mean this is always Deadpool-turn 1 or Bucky-Barnes-turn 2 + Carnage or Deathlock-turn 3... I don't blame the game, but this is frustrating lol

Yup you'll play destruction decks when you do not have armor/cosmo. The moment you use a new deck, and have an armor/cosmo card all the sudden youll see a destruction deck maybe 1 in 10 games.

[fabioecco]

Messaggio originale di onedudesmind:

I am CL 3000+ I have played against a Thanos deck maybe 5-6 time in my entire time playing. I bought him last week and when i play the deck he is in, I face a Thanos deck about one in ever 5 matches. I switch to an old deck and do not see Thanos decks, i play 10- 20 matches nada. i switch back I see him regularly.

I play against Thanos like once in a 100 matches, I wish I could play against him more to learn the deck. lol
Shuri? Who is this??
Name the meta decks, I never see 99% of them. The only thing I see is full control (all tech cards + RANDOM big drop) or discard/destruction.
I feel like everyone is playing discard, destruction or a mix of both.

[Commander Tom]

Self fullfilling prophecy is what you encountered.

[onedudesmind]

Messaggio originale di fabioecco:

Messaggio originale di onedudesmind:

I am CL 3000+ I have played against a Thanos deck maybe 5-6 time in my entire time playing. I bought him last week and when i play the deck he is in, I face a Thanos deck about one in ever 5 matches. I switch to an old deck and do not see Thanos decks, i play 10- 20 matches nada. i switch back I see him regularly.

I play against Thanos like once in a 100 matches, I wish I could play against him more to learn the deck. lol
Shuri? Who is this??
Name the meta decks, I never see 99% of them. The only thing I see is full control (all tech cards + RANDOM big drop) or discard/destruction.
I feel like everyone is playing discard, destruction or a mix of both.

I haven't seen a discard deck in a a few weeks, I play every day.

[JTHMandSQEE]

It’s a manipulation mechanic. You’ll get matched with people that will directly counter your decks or with cards you don’t have and vice versa. This is to make people feel ♥♥♥♥♥♥ enough to want to drop some money into the game. All mobile games do this

[Zlehtnoba]

And the earth is flat. BTW, I have a bridge for you, very cheap.

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Messaggio originale di Zlehtnoba:

And the earth is flat. BTW, I have a bridge for you, very cheap.

So you are saying there no algorithm’s or anything? While I hope you are joking one is science and the other is just programming which is not hard for the dev to do soooo. If you are saying they don’t what is your basis for saying so?

[Zlehtnoba]

Messaggio originale di Orphen:

Messaggio originale di Zlehtnoba:

And the earth is flat. BTW, I have a bridge for you, very cheap.

So you are saying there no algorithm’s or anything? While I hope you are joking one is science and the other is just programming which is not hard for the dev to do soooo. If you are saying they don’t what is your basis for saying so?

Occam's razor/common sense. They probably do have algorithms in place, hidden so players can't game them, but they should be geared to maximize players enjoyment, and not to, for example, pair you with decks that counter your deck. Happy players will spend money on a game, frustrated players will leave.

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Messaggio originale di Zlehtnoba:

Messaggio originale di Orphen:

So you are saying there no algorithm’s or anything? While I hope you are joking one is science and the other is just programming which is not hard for the dev to do soooo. If you are saying they don’t what is your basis for saying so?

Occam's razor/common sense. They probably do have algorithms in place, hidden so players can't game them, but they should be geared to maximize players enjoyment, and not to, for example, pair you with decks that counter your deck. Happy players will spend money on a game, frustrated players will leave.

Not necessarily especially if you like the game, but are frustrated with the counters. At that point alot of players that have the money will spend money into order to get the current tier/meta decks. it just like any shooters/mmorpg's/MOBA's. New characters/geras/guns come out. Players get frustrated as these are OP, and instead of waiting for a grind they option to pay to get there now.

[Zlehtnoba]

Messaggio originale di Orphen:

Messaggio originale di Zlehtnoba:

Occam's razor/common sense. They probably do have algorithms in place, hidden so players can't game them, but they should be geared to maximize players enjoyment, and not to, for example, pair you with decks that counter your deck. Happy players will spend money on a game, frustrated players will leave.

Not necessarily especially if you like the game, but are frustrated with the counters. At that point alot of players that have the money will spend money into order to get the current tier/meta decks. it just like any shooters/mmorpg's/MOBA's. New characters/geras/guns come out. Players get frustrated as these are OP, and instead of waiting for a grind they option to pay to get there now.

True, but this game is a bit different, as the progress is gated pretty hard even for players who do pay. You grind a bit faster, but you are still at the mercy of the RNG opening cards, and there's a limit on how much you can spend per day. You can't just open your wallet and buy a deck.

I did spend money on all token packages to date, because I liked the game. I wanted new cards to see how they play, to make new decks, not because I was frustrated by my losses.

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Messaggio originale di Zlehtnoba:

Messaggio originale di Orphen:

Not necessarily especially if you like the game, but are frustrated with the counters. At that point alot of players that have the money will spend money into order to get the current tier/meta decks. it just like any shooters/mmorpg's/MOBA's. New characters/geras/guns come out. Players get frustrated as these are OP, and instead of waiting for a grind they option to pay to get there now.

True, but this game is a bit different, as the progress is gated pretty hard even for players who do pay. You grind a bit faster, but you are still at the mercy of the RNG opening cards, and there's a limit on how much you can spend per day. You can't just open your wallet and buy a deck.

I did spend money on all token packages to date, because I liked the game. I wanted new cards to see how they play, to make new decks, not because I was frustrated by my losses.

Yeah I agree. I also always want new cards to make new decks. I do however get frustrated when there are decks I want to play, but do not have all the cards. I am always waiting on 1 card or so.

[MadKiefer]

Likewise.The amount of times I threw this thing from my phone is unparalleled. The Influencers on YT do not help, nor the marvel snap decks of much smarter ppl than myself.
I tried multiple decks and it is what it is: after a few matches, I encounter only counter decks to mine. So I change. Win a cube or two, then it starts again.

Not to mentioned the location "bullying". I got to rank 65 this season, highest ever. And then I get stomped. Sometimes by "Omega" or above (noticable due to their Nimrod avatar).
Really? Really?! What's wrong with devs.

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Messaggio originale di Hex: Putin khuylo!:

Likewise.The amount of times I threw this thing from my phone is unparalleled. The Influencers on YT do not help, nor the marvel snap decks of much smarter ppl than myself.
I tried multiple decks and it is what it is: after a few matches, I encounter only counter decks to mine. So I change. Win a cube or two, then it starts again.

Not to mentioned the location "bullying". I got to rank 65 this season, highest ever. And then I get stomped. Sometimes by "Omega" or above (noticable due to their Nimrod avatar).
Really? Really?! What's wrong with devs.

Yeah I hear you nothing feels truly random in this game.

[onedudesmind]

Messaggio originale di Zlehtnoba:

And the earth is flat. BTW, I have a bridge for you, very cheap.

So naive, These companies patent various matchmaking manipulation methods all the time, they pay for these patents, do you think they don't use them? Or sell them to other companies?