The EULA... my God.

[Sjel]

I wanted to play this but then the huuuuge document showed up that I have to agree with. Seriously? A game for kids starting with 20 pages of lawyer text in your face? No thanks.

[VastGirth]

Hey everybody, we found the one guy that reads the EULA!

[fabioecco]

Dude, you have nothing of value for them.
Your immortal soul is safe.

[Alcatraz]

Originally posted by VastGirth:

Hey everybody, we found the one guy that reads the EULA!

Click me!

[Lady MacBeth]

Originally posted by Sjel:

I wanted to play this but then the huuuuge document showed up that I have to agree with. Seriously? A game for kids starting with 20 pages of lawyer text in your face? No thanks. :stress:

First time playing a video game on a computer I see.

[Knud den Store 🧙‍♂]

Fun fact, despite its wordiness, EULA are basically worthless in a real court if you were to sue a publisher or if the publisher were to sue you the real charges would be part of a DMCA type of law applicable to your region and that's REAL tough to enforce.

I am pretty certain all of them are copy paste and they cannot by pass actual law, it is supposedly a digital contract, at best all the EULA can do for the publisher and developer is be a justification for a permanent ban if you were to be a dingus in game and cheat or develop blatant exploit tools for the game.

[Gh0st.exe]

Fun fact, despite its wordiness, EULA are basically worthless in a real court if you were to sue a publisher or if the publisher were to sue you the real charges would be part of a DMCA type of law applicable to your region and that's REAL tough to enforce.

What does the DMCA have to do with EULA? The DMCA is, as the name implies, mainly about copyright and the protection of it, EULA / ToU / ToS on the other hand are a privat contract you enter with the corresponding dev / publisher / store and is about the rights and obligations of both parties involved. Sure, copyright CAN be part of the EULA too, but that doesnt mean that the DMCA has any significant impact on the EULA or the parts of it that arent about copyright.

I am pretty certain all of them are copy paste and they cannot by pass actual law, it is supposedly a digital contract, at best all the EULA can do for the publisher and developer is be a justification for a permanent ban if you were to be a dingus in game and cheat or develop blatant exploit tools for the game.

Yes, EULA / ToS / ToU cant bypass actual law, thats true. But so what? That would require part of the EULA to break the law in some way, and as long as that isnt the case the EULA are valid and apply as they are, as with any other contract. And even if some part of the EULA were found to be invalid because they arent compliant with law, in most cases this wouldnt invalidate the whole EULA but just the part thats not compliant with law.

@topic
Yes, thats how online games work. It doesnt matter what age rating a game has, devs still need to cover their legal bases. It may come as a shock to you, but thats not even exclusive to games. Buying a ticket for a kids movie in a cinema, buying some sweets at a store or paying to enter a swimming pool, in all those cases the kid in question technically enters a contract. Its just that most people dont think about it like that because its just part of everyday life and the contents of those contracts are pretty sensible and self-explanatory, like "dont act like a jerk in the cinema" and such.

Edit:
Ok, "contract" may be the wrong word, "binding agreement" would be more fitting.

[Sjel]

Sure, sure...
"We may collect additional personal data through the Beta Game that may not be collected in the official release. This personal data may include information about your device and network, account information and user-generated content, your use of the Beta Game, feedback you provide to us, and other data described in our Privacy Policy. This personal data may be used for improving the Beta Game or any other purpose described in our Privacy Policy."

"We reserve the right, at any time and without prior notice, to remove or disable your access to the Services, including the Game, Nuverse Content and Virtual Items, at our discretion for any reason or no reason"

"● Security. We do not guarantee that our Services will be secure or free from bugs or viruses. You are responsible for configuring your information technology, computer programs and Game to access our Services. You should use your own virus protection software."

I mean, come on...

[Gh0st.exe]

"We may collect additional personal data through the Beta Game that may not be collected in the official release. This personal data may include information about your device and network, account information and user-generated content, your use of the Beta Game, feedback you provide to us, and other data described in our Privacy Policy. This personal data may be used for improving the Beta Game or any other purpose described in our Privacy Policy."

Gathering data on the users hardware and the way he interacts with the game is pretty standard for an alpha / beta tho. I mean, the whole point of an alpha / beta is to ensure the game runs smooth and wont have problems with certain hardware / software combinations. Hell, many games gather that data even after the full release.

"We reserve the right, at any time and without prior notice, to remove or disable your access to the Services, including the Game, Nuverse Content and Virtual Items, at our discretion for any reason or no reason"

Pretty much the standard "we reserve the right to ban you" and "you may not have access to the game at all times" paragraph you will see in every other online game too.

"● Security. We do not guarantee that our Services will be secure or free from bugs or viruses. You are responsible for configuring your information technology, computer programs and Game to access our Services. You should use your own virus protection software."

Again, its called "covering your legal bases" and can be found in pretty much every other EULA. No dev can guarantee that their software doesnt have any vulnerability that can be exploited by shady people in order to infect others with malware. And the 2nd half is pretty sensible since yes, YOU are responsible for your own system.

I mean, come on...

Right back at you. Dont get me wrong, you dont have to like the EULA, but at this point you are just trying to find things to complain about for the sake of complaining about something. Nothing of what you quoted is particularly strange or new for a EULA and can in fact be found in pretty much every other EULA in some shape or form.

[Lieutenant Dan]

Do you complain about the other EULA for every other game you play, or steams EULA?
Or are you just complaining for the sake of complaining?

[Alcatraz]

Originally posted by Pickleman:

Do you complain about the other EULA for every other game you play, or steams EULA?
Or are you just complaining for the sake of complaining?

I bet on the last option.

[Sjel]

Originally posted by Gh0st.exe:

"We may collect additional personal data through the Beta Game that may not be collected in the official release. This personal data may include information about your device and network, account information and user-generated content, your use of the Beta Game, feedback you provide to us, and other data described in our Privacy Policy. This personal data may be used for improving the Beta Game or any other purpose described in our Privacy Policy."

Gathering data on the users hardware and the way he interacts with the game is pretty standard for an alpha / beta tho. I mean, the whole point of an alpha / beta is to ensure the game runs smooth and wont have problems with certain hardware / software combinations. Hell, many games gather that data even after the full release.

"We reserve the right, at any time and without prior notice, to remove or disable your access to the Services, including the Game, Nuverse Content and Virtual Items, at our discretion for any reason or no reason"

Pretty much the standard "we reserve the right to ban you" and "you may not have access to the game at all times" paragraph you will see in every other online game too.

"● Security. We do not guarantee that our Services will be secure or free from bugs or viruses. You are responsible for configuring your information technology, computer programs and Game to access our Services. You should use your own virus protection software."

Again, its called "covering your legal bases" and can be found in pretty much every other EULA. No dev can guarantee that their software doesnt have any vulnerability that can be exploited by shady people in order to infect others with malware. And the 2nd half is pretty sensible since yes, YOU are responsible for your own system.

I mean, come on...

Right back at you. Dont get me wrong, you dont have to like the EULA, but at this point you are just trying to find things to complain about for the sake of complaining about something. Nothing of what you quoted is particularly strange or new for a EULA and can in fact be found in pretty much every other EULA in some shape or form.

Thanks for taking Your time but I'll stick to not playing this.
I have never ever seen such a long EULA that is why I am concerned and mistrustful.

In terms of user data - this is a quote from their Privacy Policy:"(...)However, we may share User Information with our business partners for marketing, advertising or product/service offering purposes."

I'll leave You to it then, bb.

[James39]

Lol, Well, I think that most games have this.

[*! Akster !*]

Every online game ever has always had a lengthy ToS that no one reads. Just like a lot of websites even do now.